Salvation Army killing homeless in Texas?

originally posted by: Mandroid7


He needs mental health help.

"They are killing people, I am actually a police officer" shows he is out of touch with reality.

Sad really

How do we know he didn't used to be a police officer, suffered PTSD, drug addiction and alcoholism, then became homeless? The Salvation Army in Texas have a problem in finding accommodation for transgender people. That could be
one explanation. This story involves death threats, animals and whatever:

thinkprogress.org...

a reply to: Tempter

No. You're dealing with a group that likely has the largest percentage of their members suffering from serious mental illnesses (and for a change I'm not referring to the news reporter ) There's nothing to be gained nor any rational reason to put a microphone in the face of a crazy homeless person. All it's going to do is embolden them to be even more insane in their interactions with people.

a reply to: Tempter

Sounds like the man was mentally ill. I think the reporter realized that quickly when the homeless man started accusing the Salvation Army and local homeless shelter of killing people. There are a lot of homeless people who are mentally ill.

What should the reporter have done? Taken the man at his word and put out a story with no basis of proof during a time when all help is needed that could have caused a lot of panic?

"The Salvation Army is killing people ..."

With an allegation like that, you need to have some pretty strong proof, not just one person's say-so.

a reply to: stormcell

Does he look like he is a police officer now? -like he stated?
-which I think is actually against the law

That was my first breakthrough thought.

And from your off topic article

The intake staff may also have simply violated the Salvation Army’s own policies about respecting trans identities.

You are taking a one-off staff behavior that is NOT SA policy, and using it to prove they may be killing people WHY?

a reply to: Tempter

I volunteered for the salvation army and the hierarchy is rotten.

I had to quit because the amount of dust and allergens in the store was giving me conjunctivitis and allergic reactions so I left, a week or so later the 'boss' confronted me about me leaving while he was not on the job and driving around in his brand new Mazda. I should've corked him in the thigh but this sniveling self righteous tax exempt undeserving brat would've gone to the cops.

I feel for the donators who don't know where their money is going, and I feel for the volunteers and those who do good deeds only to be snubbed. Never give money to religious groups-donate time, clothes or to food drives but don't donate any science or fantasy books as they will go in the garbage, that was part of the job believe it or not.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: stormcell

Does he look like he is a police officer now? -like he stated?
-which I think is actually against the law

That was my first breakthrough thought.

And from your off topic article

The intake staff may also have simply violated the Salvation Army’s own policies about respecting trans identities.

You are taking a one-off staff behavior that is NOT SA policy, and using it to prove they may be killing people WHY?

What I was thinking is he heard this story, remembered about the death threats and stuff, then mixed that up with the Salvation Army.

a reply to: Tempter

The reporter did not 'cut him off' nor was the feed cut (they have a delay on 'live' broadcasts so that objectionable material doesn't go to air). The reporter continued to interview the man gently and with concern for his welfare.

As for the reporter's questioning about why one would sleep outside during a hurricane, I think he established that the man suffered from paranoid delusions, and that was the reason.

Probably on top of mental issues he is facing, it may be a rumored fear locally in some homeless there. There's not a lot of trust by some homeless with shelters, who are often very strict(for safety reasons). In the north for example, not getting to a shelter on time before they close the doors for the night in the winter, means you'll be on the street having to face below zero whether.

Hope him and his dog find safety from the storm.

I'm not sure what to think of this. If what he is saying is true and they do eliminate him the bulk of the public will write him off as another crazy. It is tempting to just say it is mental illness though. Helps our world view stay sane.

The guy seems crazy, not a police officer either I bet.

Anyways he's keeping dry, better than being in a shelter getting told what to do. A shelter would always be a last resort for me. 'Resort' not being the key word there lol,

a reply to: TacticalStats


There is no doubt in my mind that many homeless people will die as a result of Harvey. But I predict zero homeless people will be murdered as a result of a Salvation Army workers' plot during this catastrophe.

Is there any evidence that the homeless at the shelters he mentioned are still alive? Half or more have working phones.

Should be easy to settle this right?

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Tempter

the guy is homeless and apparently delusional. Might be why he's homeless. The US has a pretty #ty track record of dealing with mental illness. Sad to see, but this guy likely believes the stuff he says, so he thinks he's safer outside. The reporter should have found someone else to badger, and it's good that he tried to get this guy some help.

If he wanted help, he should "pull himself up by the bootstraps" and "help himself" since there is [sarc/off] no goddamn compassion anymore especially from the set that were the Moral Majority some thirty years ago.

A homeless guy once told me the military gave him drugs to turn him into a super soldier. He said he used to do HALO jumps and once got stuck on top of the Empire State Building.

Just because a homeless dude says something doesn't mean its true.

Sadly, mental health issues are rampant among the homeless....this is usually a contributing factor as to why they're homeless.

originally posted by: the owlbear

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Tempter

the guy is homeless and apparently delusional. Might be why he's homeless. The US has a pretty #ty track record of dealing with mental illness. Sad to see, but this guy likely believes the stuff he says, so he thinks he's safer outside. The reporter should have found someone else to badger, and it's good that he tried to get this guy some help.

If he wanted help, he should "pull himself up by the bootstraps" and "help himself" since there is [sarc/off] no goddamn compassion anymore especially from the set that were the Moral Majority some thirty years ago.

IDK man, watching the news it seems Americans love socialism.

It just takes a natural disaster.

The whole fact of the Salvation Army being a cult is a whole other topic. One which I'm sure has been shared before.
Those most down on their "luck" are most susceptible to the organization which really treats them barely any better than the SeaOrg of Scientology treats their own.
I chose homelessness rather than give them over half of my meager income to live in a bunk bed and have to cook and clean for all of the others when my car was much cleaner and I was less likely to be raped or get MRSA AND not have to participate in endless classes and bs about how weak I am.

a reply to: the owlbear

A lot of people don't realize that the Salvation Army takes the food stamp (SNAP) money from the people living in their shelters/housing. They literally tell you to get food stamps, then take your card from you.

It sounds like you've experienced it -- at first I thought it was just an isolated thing done locally.

originally posted by: Kettu

originally posted by: the owlbear

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Tempter

the guy is homeless and apparently delusional. Might be why he's homeless. The US has a pretty #ty track record of dealing with mental illness. Sad to see, but this guy likely believes the stuff he says, so he thinks he's safer outside. The reporter should have found someone else to badger, and it's good that he tried to get this guy some help.

If he wanted help, he should "pull himself up by the bootstraps" and "help himself" since there is [sarc/off] no goddamn compassion anymore especially from the set that were the Moral Majority some thirty years ago.

IDK man, watching the news it seems Americans love socialism.

It just takes a natural disaster.

The banks, the auto industry, the airlines in the 90's, Donald Trump...
All got a handout from Uncle Sam rather than suffering their Capitalist fate that is the nature of capitalism.
If the insurance industry also had to play by the rules of capitalism...

originally posted by: Kettu
a reply to: the owlbear

A lot of people don't realize that the Salvation Army takes the food stamp (SNAP) money from the people living in their shelters/housing. They literally tell you to get food stamps, then take your card from you.

It sounds like you've experienced it -- at first I thought it was just an isolated thing done locally.

Was in a psych ward for a time, Salvation Army folks were always trying to help out the less fortunate, especially the junkies and drunks. But I Was educated enough in their tactics, and was lucky I had a vehicle that I could live out of fairly comfortably even in the winter in Pennsylvania.