D.C. judge approves government warrant for data from anti-Trump website

a reply to: dawnstar

If it was really about how violent the group is, we'd see Trump asking for data on the alt-right online communities that organized Charlottesville, which led to the death of a young woman.

But this isn't really about violence, it's about creating a chilling effect on people who speak out against this administration.

a reply to: neo96

Since when is wearing a Guy Fawkes mask a crime?

Love authority and power when it fits your narrative, if not, "Muh New World Order, Soro's Deep State"

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Butterfinger
Innocents arent the ones they can confirm identity visually, too bad they were all wearing masks.

All this will do is force more people to cover their faces.

That alone will reduce the number of ambulances and guidance counselors needed because less people will see their faces.

Honest question: Do you think face coverings should be legal or illegal for all protesters?

a reply to: underwerks

I would tend to believe as you do, this is trump, upset that so many came out in protest. but, if it is about the actual violence that seems to erupt at most of these protest-- usually on both sides, then you are right, he should be going for information on the supremacists websites long before he goes after the groups that organized the women's march..

but it wouldn't surprise me if they go after the women's march first.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Butterfinger
Innocents arent the ones they can confirm identity visually, too bad they were all wearing masks.

All this will do is force more people to cover their faces.

True.

How important is it to have a peaceful protest with masks?

Recently texas outlowed hoodies in certain public spaces. Surely everyone could agree that a mask is usually trouble

originally posted by: underwerks
So, Trump directs the justice department to go after the users of a website that is critical of him.

No, the website isn't "critical of him," it's a website setup specifically to disrupt public gatherings and events. The Constitution protects the right of Americans to peacefully gather and protest, not disrupt and certainly not incite violence. Many of the users of that website are guilty of conspiracy to commit criminal disturbance, inciting violence, and then many actually carried out the disturbance and violence in person. It's not different from the feds taking down a terrorist site and chasing down the IPs of anyone who posted on it with intent to carry out an attack.

a reply to: Annee

Illegal. We don't allow people to enter banks or federal buildings with ski masks on because there's risks the law will be broken, why in the blue hell should protestors who risk delving into violence be given any pass to cover their faces?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Because "AmeriKKKA is the land of the Free"

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: underwerks
So, Trump directs the justice department to go after the users of a website that is critical of him.

No, the website isn't "critical of him," it's a website setup specifically to disrupt public gatherings and events. The Constitution protects the right of Americans to peacefully gather and protest, not disrupt and certainly not incite violence. Many of the users of that website are guilty of conspiracy to commit criminal disturbance, inciting violence, and then many actually carried out the disturbance and violence in person. It's not different from the feds taking down a terrorist site and chasing down the IPs of anyone who posted on it with intent to carry out an attack.

So where's the justice department investigations of the alt-right organizers of Charlottesville?

I mean, if it's really about what you say..

a reply to: Butterfinger

What about people that wear masks when there's an illness going around? Should we ban those from public places? What about ski masks in the winter? Should we assume that everyone walking down the street with one is actually someone looking to cause a public disturbance?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

So then why aren't the Feds going after all the people involved with organizing the UTR rally and all the people involved with those groups? By their own words they were planning for violence and planning to commit violence.

Also, why is James Alex Fields currently looking at a shorter sentence than those involved with the inauguration protest? You would think that a terrorist that killed one person and injured 20+ others is a greater threat to the population than people that overturned a few trash cans.

a reply to: XAnarchistX

That indicates your comprehension of the idea of "freedom" is about as nuanced and complex as a child's. Freedom doesn't mean anything goes, that's anarchy, which is ironically the exact impetus that leads nations down the road to fascism. Both extremes are the enemy of freedom.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Probably because Washington DC falls under the direct responsibility of the DOJ, as they are not a state and lack a state investigative agency, whereas Virginia falls under the state of VA's department of justice authority.

I haven't seen anywhere specifying how long Fields would serve if convicted.

1933.

And he has over 3 more years to go after his enemies

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Second degree murder charges come with a maximum sentence of 40 years in Virginia. In contrast the J20 protesters are facing a maximum sentence of 75 years.

a reply to: xuenchen

So how is this not an infringement on people's right to protest? This reeks of political retaliation from Trump for protesting him.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Prolly since they run around covering their faces wearing Guy Fawkes masks.

People like that should be investigated.

And trying to hide behind first amendment protections!

That's too rich.

Since when was it illegal to wear a Guy Fawkes mask?

a reply to: Xcalibur254

It's really scary how badly Trump and his supporters want to # all over our right to protest just because they don't want to see people expressing their disapproval of Trump.

originally posted by: Annee
All this will do is force more people to cover their faces.

Force?

No, donning cover over one's face and body and acting like lawless jackasses with a mob mentality is a choice, not a forced action.

But, victimhood...