The Deep State Finally Revealed

A good question is what is the organized link that connects and guides the Deep State.

Some have speculated it is a Masonic type group or order, of course known as the Illuminati traditionally, which was a Masonic type group originally. However, there is doubt the Illuminati still exists today.

Though, there is no doubt an anglophile group exists that runs the Deep state

Is it through the think tanks, or a Masonic Illuminati type group, or a Bilderberger type institution or something else?

a reply to: luciferslight

CFR... Council on Foreign Relations

check it out

william Cooper covered all this stuff a long time ago in Hour of the Time. You can still listen to it.

a reply to: Willtell

again... illuminat guides the deep state and the deep state guides our government. There are many crossovers. illuminati inside the cfr. CFR inside our.. their government. This has been going on for hundreds and hundreds of years before america even exhisted.

Didn't touch on the occult aspect. Or secret societies. It's not just the business/commerce sphere.

Maybe the low players are akin to a swarm of bees but the upper echelons are definitely hierarchical, compartmentalized.

a reply to: theworldisnotenough

Eh, i think your view of the deep state may be too shallow.

You're implying that the current issues plaguing the world are a result of high ranking, but inept people running the show. But do you honestly think anyone who rose in the ranks through affirmative action has any power?

Bloodlines my friend.

The ones at the very top are not affected by their minions in the slightest. Though I'm sure they'd love for you to believe that they are.

a reply to: SuicideKing33

secret societies ... skull and bones types are recuiting grounds for the illuminati pawns.

vatican is also illuminati controlled

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

You're implying that the current issues plaguing the world are a result of high ranking, but inept people running the show. But do you honestly think anyone who rose in the ranks through affirmative action has any power?

Rose in the ranks thru affirmative action??

I am not referring to people who may be considered to be equal opportunity or affirmative action poster boys and girls.

Look to the demographics of Navy officers and White House generals who have been featured on the news lately. They definitely are not what one can call, "equal opportunity or affirmative action poster boys."

Anyone who has risen through managerial ranks in most business hierarchies and in every governmental hierarchy under government enforced equality and political correctness, REGARDLESS OF THEIR DEMOGRAPHIC TRAITS, is the wrong type to have risen thusly.

Just look to your Commander-in-Chief. He rose to prominence in the business world under the auspices of the highly illogical equality laws: the equal employment opportunity law, the equality in accommodations law (hotels and casinos), and the equality in housing laws (condos and rental apartments). These facts alone would make him highly suspect as a fit person to run the entire United States of America.

The "Deep State" is a byproduct of The System, not a result of it.

a reply to: theworldisnotenough

I gotchya. But the point I was trying to make is that none of the faces we see or the names we know hold any true power, nor are they from the top of the pyramid. Regardless of the demographics.

Everyone you've mentioned, including the president, all take orders from above.

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

I gotchya. But the point I was trying to make is that none of the faces we see or the names we know hold any true power, nor are they from the top of the pyramid. Regardless of the demographics.

Everyone you've mentioned, including the president, all take orders from above.

By "above," are you thinking what I am thinking... which is Vladimir Putin?

If we had an honorable President and other honorable politicians (honor being mutually exclusive with political correctness and equality because these are all phony) then our prominent governmental luminaries would be advancing our interests, not those of Vladimir PUTIN!!!

originally posted by: theworldisnotenough

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

I gotchya. But the point I was trying to make is that none of the faces we see or the names we know hold any true power, nor are they from the top of the pyramid. Regardless of the demographics.

Everyone you've mentioned, including the president, all take orders from above.

By "above," are you thinking what I am thinking... which is Vladimir Putin?

If we had an honorable President and other honorable politicians (honor being mutually exclusive with political correctness and equality because these are all phony) then our prominent governmental luminaries would be advancing our interests, not those of Vladimir PUTIN!!!

That's 100% not what I was thinking.

I imagine many of you know the mainstream scholar, Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinton’s teacher, who wrote a book confirming the existence of the Deep State, Tragedy and Hope.

en.wikipedia.org...

This mainstream historian admits of a deep State…

…. There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the Radical right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other group, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.[26]:949–950
According to Quigley, the leaders of this group were Cecil Rhodes and Alfred Milner from 1891 until Rhodes' death in 1902, Milner alone until his own death in 1925, Lionel Curtis from 1925 to 1955, Robert H. (Baron) Brand from 1955 to 1963, and Adam D. Marris from 1963 until the time Quigley wrote his book. This organization also functioned through certain loosely affiliated "front groups", including the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Institute of Pacific Relations, and the Council on Foreign Relations.[26]:132, 950–952
In addition, other secret societies are briefly discussed in Tragedy and Hope, including a consortium of the leaders of the central banks of several countries, who formed the Bank for International Settlements.[26]:323–324

This is not a typical conspiracy book, since this guy was commissioned to study the deep state and as he said was allowed inside their records

a reply to: theworldisnotenough

putin is a major anti-alluminati for what they did to the soviet union. Putin is a nationalist and not our enemy. The alluminati infiltrated the soviet union and detroyed it to reclaim power. putin has been working to bring it back. He has stated that his mission was to destroy the illuminati.

a reply to: theworldisnotenough

My point is, people that see things differently and don't always agree...can work together.

I still have no idea what your rambling point was.

originally posted by: agenda51
a reply to: theworldisnotenough

putin is a major anti-alluminati for what they did to the soviet union. Putin is a nationalist and not our enemy. The alluminati infiltrated the soviet union and detroyed it to reclaim power. putin has been working to bring it back. He has stated that his mission was to destroy the illuminati.

Yeah, so he can be the top dog.

He had designs on taking over an independent California. I think that he wants this whole country as a new Soviet satellite.

a reply to: theworldisnotenough

illuminati is a far greater threat than russia ever could be.

99.9% of the demonization of russia is a result of media manipulation of the populace. and who dictates the USA media???

illuminati uses russia and the USA as pawns in a divide and concur strategy. Trump and Putin both see right through it which is a very good thing. What the illuminati did to destroy russia is what we are currently going through right now. Putin is giving trump a chance to right this ship. Its in both the US populaces interest and the interest of Russia that trump succeeds.

If russia some how fell to the illuminati again that would be horrible for us. If we fall its horrible for russia. we will probably be in a shooting war if that happens.

a reply to: theworldisnotenough

Nope, the thread is still here.

You offer a lot of insight and I am not inclined to disagree with it..... as far as it goes.
To begin, you offer the story of the coach and his team. So for me to start, I will offer the story of an advertising executive back in the 30s 40s and 50s. He started as a mailroom clerk and worked his way up the ladder to executive position before retiring.

He wrote a book that became a best seller 1954, then a broadway play 1961 and finally a Hollywood movie 1967. It was a satire about the corporate world called "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying.
The story describes simply the idea that it does not take much to succeed in that world. The hero, protagonist, is J. Pierrepont Finch. a likable fellow who like Mead, begins his career as a mail clerk. Not being one to molder in the basement, Finch buys a book called, How to Succeed etc. It gives simple easy to practice steps to take to success. Basically the idea is to look nice, be in the right places at the right time and to agree with whoever is in the highest position at any given moment. Along his way, Finch attaches to one after another mid management types and manages to escape the axe from above that soon befalls them all and rises, not meritocraticlly but simply by kissing up, to the top of the pile.

Now this book was of course a satire and and it's simplicity not to be taken as reality. However it does describe in metaphor, the ineptitude inherent in the corporate world.

The 'deep state' that you suggest is just about the closest to an in depth description I have found on these boards. Rather than just blame the Aliens or the Rasputans or the Illuninati, you cover well the thought that it is ineptitude and mismanagement that rules these corporations.

Yet, I do not find that government forced equal opportunity is the cause. While I do not disagree that under that banner of equality it is not always true that corporations hire the best people available, I do not think that that is the prime cause of corporate maleficence.

In mind of the How to Succeed book, it was already well considered by the 1940s, hell, the 1880s that corporations were monopolistic monstrosities that would grow to rule the world with just a few at the top of the pile if they were not governed by more humanistic values, as humanistic values seemed to not have any place in their bottom lines.

The civil rights movement of the 1960s used as one of it's great promises, the idea that by continuing to hold people of races other than white from entering and rising to power in these corporations was to deny the great brain power of many people who were prevented from success simply because of their color, that if given the chance, those races that had been excluded from those boardrooms could be depended upon to bring fresh insight to the corporate world.

What I see as happening was pretty much what you suggest, but not the cause of it as you presented. My contention is that the corporate world would have continued exactly as it had prior to equal opportunity so that today, as you present, they would be rife with maleficence and graft and ineptitude.

All equal oppertunity did was to allow people of races other than white to have a hand in the corporate pie. From my sight, they did not make it better, or worse, it just colored it up a bit.

IN SUMMERY:
1... the Deep State is the swarm of like-minded prominent, but wrong, people who have ascended managerial ranks.

2....Social equality only insisted that people of all races should have the opportunity to be part of the swarm of like-minded prominent, but wrong, people who have ascended the managerial ranks.

if that were true you would have a lot more of these deep staters turning on each other.

illuminati is real. CFR is real. The agenda is real. if your not seeing it you need to do more research on the history of the illuminati.

its not just a bunch of crooks that happen to run into each other and get along. its an entire organization which corrupts, recruits, blackmails etc. etc.

look at paul Ryan.. he is calling for gun control now.