NASA plan to save Mankind from Yellowstone supervolcano

a reply to: intrptr

Well the second thing i suggested was to introduce something to make the lava thicker and heavier. Say some carbon nanomachines that can stand said temps and replicate to a certain point using the magma and heat.

Or...huge glassed tubes made by those nuclear drills to relieve pressure and or divert magma to a coast or canyon. sort of like overflows.

a reply to: yuppa

Review of the volcano video will help to understand the massive problems associated with diverting laval flows.

There are two examples in the film.

As another example consider man mad foundry and blast furnaces that melt steel. These are huge operations, requiring massive structure and control of molten metal, even 8000 tons of steel is a drop in the bucket comparitively.

Also, the heat trapped below the basements of the twin towers show us that trapped heat will actually increase in temperature.

When they dug up the basements weeks later there was still molten metal down there.

blast furnace

The three most recent eruptions of the Yellowstone (we think) were separated by 900,000, 700,000, and 600,000 years. Given this spread of "recent" eruptions, it is most likely to be tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years before it erupts again.
Best to just leave it alone, since the real question is whether there will even be a human race in existence by then...

a reply to: Montana

Problem is? I don't think volcanoes know math or own calendars.

I hope you're right - but I also know what it's like to live at the bottom of a volcano (Mt. Etna) and pretty much nothing goes when it comes right down to it.

Thanks!

peace

a reply to: intrptr

Thank you for the great video! I hope other people watch it too. Great watch.

peace

a reply to: silo13

I've been to Mt Etna (twice!). Hiked the slopes, visited the villages. Melted the soles of my boots the first time 'cause I was stupid! Pretty place, if very dry.

Not only do I live right next door to a super volcano, I am surrounded by many other volcanoes all around the US Northwest.

I have lived most of my life with volcanoes, and i still say leave it alone. "We know not what we may do." To paraphrase someone or other...

a reply to: Montana

Perfect answer, if they don't learn to manage there planet, to harvest there natural resources more wisely and to use there intelligence for there collective good and that of the planet they live on then humanity will likely share the long list of extinct could have been races that likely litter the past of the cosmos, unless they receive divine intervention or help from a higher intelligence.

Still there may be hope for them, it would be a shame and not just as a human being but as a sentient being for this race to die out without realizing it's potential.

If there is any truth to this then "good luck with that!"
there is next to nothing we can do to contain the power of a "normal" volcano
much less cool off the magma chamber as mindbendingly vast as the yellowstone caldera
at best we will create a nice new geyser.

with the sheer amount of energy underground there
it would be like trying to quench a nuclear reactor by pissing on it!

originally posted by: SudoNim

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: SudoNim

But I guess the only saving grace about a potential Yellowstone eruption is that Yellowstone is in America.

What happens in Yellowstone doesn't stay in Yellowstone , Mount St. Helens had an effect on or weather in the UK and that eruption was small beans compared to what Yellowstone would do when it goes.

Yeah... so the only saving grace is the majority of the destruction will be in America.

Because destroying America and Americans is a "saving grace", a good thing ?
No, it is not.

But, lovely, your true feelings come out.
People living in America might object, along with decent people of other nations.


Only a madman/madwoman would rejoice in the destruction of America or the world

a reply to: M5xaz

Sorry this is to back up your answer to SudoNim.

Make absolutely no mistake a major eruption at Yellowstone would be a GLOBAL problem not just a problem for the US, the sky's around the world especially the northern hemisphere would be darkened, the air filled with soot, dust and ash as well as noxious gas and it could spell the end of humanity even an ELE, it does not matter which country a super volcano is in it poses a risk to the entire population of the planet.
Best case scenario that would merely decimate a few states in the US depending upon prevailing wind's but it would then trigger a new ice age so if you are in Europe, Russia, Northern China etc then the party is over.

A small eruption would likely still be huge and would put up far more than ten mount st helen's, probably a lot more.

Famine would likely also spread to the middle east and the southern hemisphere would also be affected, probably a little less but not untouched by any mean's.

This is for kid's but should give you the gist of it.
www.bbc.co.uk...
www.independent.co.uk... .html
This one is only postulating a month long SMALL SCALE eruption of yellowstone.
www.ibtimes.co.uk...


greentumble.com...

DP

Peace!

This sounds like an episode of "Dexter's Labratory" or an old " Looney Toons" cartoon. What are the qualifications and educational requirements, again for geological scientist or geophysicist? The pay has got to be decent. I'm in! First order of business: Create a huge hose, attached to a gigantic vacuum that is attached to another huge hose, diverting all the magma to Fukishma reactor. Thus, solving two disasters at once. Second order of business: providing my credentials to criminal Senate hearings.

Really - The Daily Star is your source?

I'll admit to reading the Daily Mail but I would never believe anything in it nor would I use it as a source even here on ATS.

a reply to: Montana

Best to just leave it alone,

And stay as far away as possible... never been there.

Saw St. Helens afterwards, visible on the horizon from Portland. If the wind had been blowing the opposite direction that day...

originally posted by: silo13
Shouldn't there be laws against this kind of thing? Really. What right do they have to put the whole of the USA (world?) at risk just to see if it can be done?

SMH

peace

So your solution is to guarantee it happens by doing nothing?

“Yellowstone currently leaks around 6GW in heat,” Wilcox says. “Through drilling in this way, it could be used to create a geothermal plant, which generates electric power at extremely competitive prices of around $0.10/kWh. You would have to give the geothermal companies incentives to drill somewhat deeper and use hotter water than they usually would, but you would pay back your initial investment, and get electricity which can power the surrounding area for a period of potentially tens of thousands of years. And the long-term benefit is that you prevent a future supervolcano eruption which would devastate humanity.”

www.bbc.com...

a reply to: M5xaz

Sorry I hurt your feelings, but at no point did I "rejoice" so not sure why you decided to claim I did.

I think you might be a bit delusional about how America is viewed the world over though, if the worlds population had to choose a continent to eradicate then it would be bye bye America.

a reply to: LABTECH767

In what way does this backup his point?
Or any point made in this thread to me?

Maybe you need to read what I said and if you still can't understand how it differs from ramblings you just posted then you can ask me to clarify.

originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: M5xaz

Sorry I hurt your feelings, but at no point did I "rejoice" so not sure why you decided to claim I did.

I think you might be a bit delusional about how America is viewed the world over though, if the worlds population had to choose a continent to eradicate then it would be bye bye America.

Yet we are the first ones they expect handouts from.

Most people are stupid.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Remind me how much debt your country is in again?

And whose expecting handouts from you? Typical small-minded delusional Americans, have no idea whats going outside their own home but believe in the propaganda they are spoon fed from an early age.