Stop calling Antifa fascists...

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
The Antifa is older than many ATSliens would think.

Look it up, they're active since the 80ies here in Europe. Two main concepts stand out in their activism:
- fighting fascism, mainly via blocking neo-nazi parades and black bloq tactics
- fighting capitalism, the enabler of fascism in the first place

This new Alt-Left Bollocks is part of a glaringly obvious propaganda effort with the target to de-legitimize dissent. If you can't see that and forget to wear your tinfoil-hat while having your opinion swayed so easily, I'm starting to wonder why you guys showed up on ATS in the first place.

Deny ignorance, maybe?

lol

Deny ignorance indeed!

a reply to: Shamrock6

people are tired

.... of condescending bollocks.

Speak for yourself, I think he's one of the few folks who actually have a clue what we're talking about. Learn to agree on disagreement?

Stop calling Antifa fascists...

Maybe people will when they stop acting like the GESTAPO.

a reply to: Nikola014

Not true, communism is the abolishment of the State, class, and monetary systems, with workers controlling the means of productios.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: intrptr

No, I think you just found yet another thread where people are tired of your constant attempts to turn every possible subject into a discussion about how awful the US is.

Whataboutism is a pretty silly tactic.

Isn't this an alternative website? Only one opinion is the totalitarian state, just like the Nazis. Oh yah, the current subject.

a reply to: JDmOKI

You got it!

a reply to: intrptr

Shut up you fcking nazi!

a reply to: Nikola014

Fascism is corporatism + statism. Obamacare is fascism. As long as theyre for Obamacare and multinational corporatism then theyre fascists.

Authoritarianism isnt unique to either communism or fascism.

Maybe people should listen, I have addressed this thousand of times

'Antifa' is not an organisation, it is a decentralised synthesis of people, the majority are ANARCHISTS with there also being some Marxists, Leninists, Maoists, and socialist, that synthesise for certain Anti-fascist actions.

a reply to: intrptr

Easy cowboy. Pointing out the irrelevance of your shtick to the current topic (or practically any other topic you try to turn in to an "America sucks" thread) isn't even remotely the same as trying to shut down your shtick.

Point of fact, you said you were "bailing out" of the thread so any silencing of your irrelevant opinion is entirely self-imposed.

Looting stores and burning cars is not something i would attribute to a group that pretends to be against fascism. It's simple quit using violence and maybe then i will take them seriously. As for now they are just as bad as any other group who is unable to peacefully protest. That goes for BLM,Nazi's,Alt-Right,Alt-Left,Black Panthers and whatever made up term people come up with next. This # is getting confusing.

a reply to: neo96

Technically theyre acting like the Brownshirts. Gestapo is what theyre attempting to troll the security apparatus further into...

a reply to: XAnarchistX

Really? That's just in theory.

See literally any communist country through out history. It was never a democracy, and always a dictatorship. Always!
Neomarxists do not want to draw a conclusion from these failed attempts of establishing a democratic, successful communist society because communism does not work.

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: intrptr

Shut up you fcking nazi!

heyyyy... my grandfather was a card carrying member of the Friggin Nazi party, how hard is that to live up down.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

.... of condescending bollocks.

Stop playing with them then.

Speak for yourself, I think he's one of the few folks who actually have a clue what we're talking about.

Neat

Learn to agree on disagreement?

Funny that you're both so triggered by me disagreeing with him that you try to chastise me about disagreeing with him by suggesting I agree to disagree.

Perhaps you should both take your own advice, and accept that others don't have to accept your arguments, just as you don't have to accept theirs.

a reply to: XAnarchistX

Anarchism as a political philosophy isnt inherently a chaos machine. That permutation is one invented by agent provacatuers of the state to discredit it, and for some reason for a thousand of times youve swooped in to stick up for antifa the latest most organized iteration of the thingie.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Their double-standard is becoming obvious when you consider their support of Zionism.

a reply to: Nikola014

Yeah, because they followed Marxist theory or their analysis of it in creating a transitional state of socialism that was supposed to create the 'dictatorship of the proletariat' as the state dissolved and turn into communism in which case the state would be abolished.

The thing was they never started the transition and instead held authoritarian power and created 'state-socialism' which is NOT communism

And I think they're just a bunch of losers who really don't know what they want they are pretty much in the same boat as these quote-unquote neo-nazis you both suck and I wish nothing but the worst for you guys have a great day.

a reply to: Dem0nc1eaner

Agreed - Antifa are not fascists - they're #in retards - the lot of em.