Symbolic Importance

In the current debate over the removal of confederate statues, how many of those statues depict black sailors, soldiers, heroes, or statesmen?

Exactly.

Now, do you understand why they are being taken down?

a reply to: Bhadhidar

Because now is the specific time that the deep state has chosen to trigger the portion of the populace that it has programmed to react to such subjects. The MTV generation to be specific.

Timing is said to be, everything.

originally posted by: Bhadhidar
In the current debate over the removal of confederate statues, how many of those statues depict black sailors, soldiers, heroes, or statesmen?

Exactly.

Now, do you understand why they are being taken down?

Nope. Even the parts of bad history need to be preserved to serve as a reminder of darker times. We can only prevent history from repeating if we learn from it. Rewriting history is wrong period.

a reply to: Bhadhidar

What, exactly, is stopping any city or individual wishing to donate, from putting up statues of black hero's (brown comes to mind), soldiers, sailors, statesman (did you forget Martin Luthor King? or mandela)?

a reply to: Bhadhidar

here is a list of the top 10 statues of black people

Looks like your post is irrelevant!

So these statues don't exist then yea? Should these be torn down too???

Buffalo soldiers

a reply to: Bhadhidar

In Boston, directly across from the State House and abutting the Boston Common there is such a statue. Link to site about the Shaw Memorial in Boston

There are monuments. They are all over the US. Even here in Virginia.

www.blackpast.org...

At the rate this idea of tearing up the past it won't be long till the White House and Capital Building will be targeted. After all... slave labor was used in the construction of many of America's public structures.

This has gotten beyond madness.

originally posted by: Bhadhidar
In the current debate over the removal of confederate statues, how many of those statues depict black sailors, soldiers, heroes, or statesmen?

Exactly.

Now, do you understand why they are being taken down?

I don't see anyone trying to take down the Bush's statues in Texas, and they are war criminals...

Father and Son

Vice tweeted to blow up Mount Rushmore but they deleted it fortunately for us the internet never forgets. I still have high hopes that the majority of american people refuse to fall for this crap. That goes for both sides.

Forrest Gump represents and glamorizes the name of the first Grand Wizard of the KKK. And I can't see Tom Hanks without thinking of a Forrect Gump quote. Can you? Just saying. We need to exile Tom Hanks and confiscate and burn all of his movies.

originally posted by: chadderson
a reply to: Bhadhidar

Because now is the specific time that the deep state has chosen to trigger the portion of the populace that it has programmed to react to such subjects. The MTV generation to be specific.

Timing is said to be, everything.

Or perhaps the whole "deep state" concept is completely bogus; a figment of an imagination gone paranoid over fears that have been used to control it? Peer too long into the abyss, and the abyss will peer back at you.

Rationalization is far more comforting than reason.

originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: Bhadhidar
In the current debate over the removal of confederate statues, how many of those statues depict black sailors, soldiers, heroes, or statesmen?

Exactly.

Now, do you understand why they are being taken down?

Nope. Even the parts of bad history need to be preserved to serve as a reminder of darker times. We can only prevent history from repeating if we learn from it. Rewriting history is wrong period.

Statues do not write history.

Taking down a statue cannot, therefore, rewrite history.

If you want people to remember their history, so that they never repeat their history, don't erect a statue to some historic "celebrity". Celebrity, as the embodiment of "glory", is, like glory, fleeting.

It is not the celebrities of history that we must remember, but the lessons and ideals of history that must not be forgotten.

And that may be the crux of this on-going debate:

Those who oppose the removal of these statues may validly claim that they honor exemplary historical figures who should not be forgotten.

But, those who demand their removal do so because their display presents a constant, painful reminder of lessons and ideals they can already, never, be freed.

originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: Bhadhidar

What, exactly, is stopping any city or individual wishing to donate, from putting up statues of black hero's (brown comes to mind), soldiers, sailors, statesman (did you forget Martin Luthor King? or mandela)?

Nothing.

So the question must be begged;

Why have so few such statues been erected?

Why weren't more of such statues erected in the past?

How many black or brown heroes, from the civil war era have been erected in the southern states?

How many of those are featured prominently in town squares and in front of city halls?

Many? A few?

Any?

Why?

originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: Bhadhidar

here is a list of the top 10 statues of black people

Looks like your post is irrelevant!

Top 10?

How many more are there?

And how many statues of white men are there?

I think those answers are quite relevant.

To think otherwise goes to the point of my OP.

originally posted by: RickyD
So these statues don't exist then yea? Should these be torn down too???

Buffalo soldiers

Might want to check your

History book.

The Buffalo Soldiers were formed After the civil war, and therefore, after the Confederacy had been disbanded.

There was a group of black soldiers who fought in the Civil war, though. But that was in Massachusetts,

For the Union army.

Kind of "apples and oranges" as comparisons go.

a reply to: Bhadhidar

Do you know the answers or are you simply flailing around trying to find something to complain about? Did you see the statues of buffalo soldiers?

How much have you donated to erect a statue of a black civil war soldier in your local park?

originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: Bhadhidar

In Boston, directly across from the State House and abutting the Boston Common there is such a statue. Link to site about the Shaw Memorial in Boston

How many statues of Confederate heroes are there in Boston?

In Massachusetts?

How many people are demanding that those statues come down?

a reply to: Bhadhidar

This is my last post to you. it is painfully clear that you are posting crap complaints on ATS in an attempt to stir trouble and justify your attitude.

You want statues of black people - pay for them and donate them to local parks.

650,000 people died during the civil war. 179,000 were blacks. There is a disparity in numbers of each race dead as well.

Do you even know how many statues of confederate hero's there are in boston, or massachusetts or how many people are demanding that those statues come down?

a reply to: Bhadhidar

NO and YOURS has been absent from the start apparently.
THE southern Troops HOWEVER misguided WERE UNITED STATES veterans.
I don't expect civilians to get THEY don't know honor now,I fully expect the Neo Communists to press the attack until met with a capable group ,they whine to Mamma(DNC) and THEY try again for disarmament while importing MORE combattants THUS achieving a globalist attack ...the ones we have here NOW have to hide or the police might not save them from us.