About time:Google & GoDaddy rescind terrorist organzation websites.

a reply to: aethertek

I am going to be AMAZINGLY unpopular for this...but, here goes.

Google and GoDaddy are doing precisely what all of those bakeries did that refused to bake for gay weddings.

If a bakery can be taken to task for not providing their services to a group because of that group not being heterosexual, then surely company's like Google and GoDaddy should be taken to court as well.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You also cannot demand the right to free speech and not expect to have to defend the speech you hate the most.


Notice, I am withholding personal beliefs on the issue of hate groups. Instead, I am choosing to focus on the double standards in play.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I guess public accommodation is soooo last year now.

No, it's still in place. A hosting site isn't a public accommodation according to the law:

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 defines public accommodations as a limited number of facilities which are open to the public. Examples include hotels, motels, restaurants, theaters, and all other public accommodations engaged in interstate commerce; exempted private clubs without defining the term "private".

The gay cake maker example came up earlier, as expected. A cake maker with a store front is a public accommodation. If you want to argue what a public accommodation should be, be my guest. I don't care to indulge in that kind of debate since I would just be stating my opinion; and my opinion means nothing in the context of years of jurisprudence. What's the point?

a reply to: Liquesence


How can you not see the similarities?? Discrimination is discrimination period.. It's doesn't come with a disclaimer that says it's enforceable if you don't agree with the group your discriminating against...Sheesh people..

dis·crim·i·na·tion


/dəˌskriməˈnāSH(ə)n/


noun

noun: discrimination; plural noun: discriminations



1.


the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
"victims of racial discrimination"


synonyms: prejudice, bias, bigotry, intolerance, narrow-mindedness, unfairness, inequity, favoritism, one-sidedness, partisanship; More
sexism, chauvinism, misogyny, racism, racialism, anti-Semitism, heterosexism, ageism, classism, casteism;

historicalapartheid


"racial discrimination"



antonyms: impartiality




2.


recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.
"discrimination between right and wrong"

originally posted by: FHomerK
a reply to: aethertek

I am going to be AMAZINGLY unpopular for this...but, here goes.

Google and GoDaddy are doing precisely what all of those bakeries did that refused to bake for gay weddings.

If a bakery can be taken to task for not providing their services to a group because of that group not being heterosexual, then surely company's like Google and GoDaddy should be taken to court as well.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You also cannot demand the right to free speech and not expect to have to defend the speech you hate the most.


Notice, I am withholding personal beliefs on the issue of hate groups. Instead, I am choosing to focus on the double standards in play.

No, they are not. The cake maker is a public accommodation by the legal definition of the term. I'll quote the law again for your con

Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 defines public accommodations as a limited number of facilities which are open to the public. Examples include hotels, motels, restaurants, theaters, and all other public accommodations engaged in interstate commerce; exempted private clubs without defining the term "private".

And to take it a step further, white supremacists aren't part of a protected class. If you would like for them to be, go ahead and agitate for it.

originally posted by: FHomerK
a reply to: aethertek

I am going to be AMAZINGLY unpopular for this...but, here goes.

Google and GoDaddy are doing precisely what all of those bakeries did that refused to bake for gay weddings.

If a bakery can be taken to task for not providing their services to a group because of that group not being heterosexual, then surely company's like Google and GoDaddy should be taken to court as well.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You also cannot demand the right to free speech and not expect to have to defend the speech you hate the most.


Notice, I am withholding personal beliefs on the issue of hate groups. Instead, I am choosing to focus on the double standards in play.

MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!

a reply to: lordcomac

What about ISIS recruitment videos are you fine with them?.

originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: lordcomac

What about ISIS recruitment videos are you fine with them?.

No...Just like I am not fine with Nazi's speech....

I am also not fine with censorship....While I may not agree with their views I don't care that they have them...

It's when those views manifest into actions is when I start having a problem. Isis unlike the other groups are responsible for tens of thousands of deaths world wide....are you saying this small neo Nazi group has done the same as Isis?

a reply to: GuidedKill

The difference is that when you use GoDaddy to host your stuff, you agree to a T&C, just like ATS. If the nazi pricks violated the T&C of GoDaddy, then its not censorship, its not a violation of the 1st Amendment and its not comparable to the bakery. You're building an argument on semantics and a straw man.

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: GuidedKill

The difference is that when you use GoDaddy to host your stuff, you agree to a T&C, just like ATS. If the nazi pricks violated the T&C of GoDaddy, then its not censorship, its not a violation of the 1st Amendment and its not comparable to the bakery. You're building an argument on semantics and a straw man.

So what was the T&C violation? Can businesses on public streets set their own T&C? Like say a bakery T&C is no cakes for homosexuals? Does that now negate is censorship or discrimination?

Face it, people are only for this because the group is offensive and has outdate beliefs. Are those enough reasoning to start discriminate against groups?

Let's say hypothetically now that minorities have voting rights can we do away with the NAACP now because their views are outdated? I mean they are an organization for only one group? Should they now be disbanded?

a reply to: icanteven

I feel the hate GROWING within you!

a reply to: icanteven


More progressive Marxist double standards.


Where was the outrage over Muslim bakeries that refused to bake a gay wedding cake? SILENCE......





The selective outrage and double standards is amazing!

a reply to: GuidedKill

Thanks for clarifying....

Apparently not as you're still confused.

That or you really just like nazis.

K~

Yet they still let terrorist groups like IS , BLM , New Black Panthers , ANTIFA et al spout their bigotry and hate .
oh wait the left supports those groups . nevermind .

It's about time they started to take the terrorist like threats of violence from the alt-right/nazi groups seriously.

Well, Uncle Sam is about 100 years to late to finally take violence from native born hate groups seriously but as the saying goes, better late than never.

If the daily stormer incited or promoted violence then yes, expect to be censored, it's no different than ISIS, NRA and KKK saying go out and injure or murder someone. As vile as what was posted on the site, i didn't see anything that told folks to go out and actively harm someone but I could have missed something.

You can be as nasty as you wanna be, who cares, it's the internet. We need that anonymity.

a reply to: FHomerK

No you're not, otherwise you wouldn't have made the vile comparison of equating gay individuals with nazis.
Typing is an action.
"and ye shall know them by their works"
K~

Same as I told the other guy.

K~

a reply to: cenpuppie

You can be as nasty as you wanna be, who cares, it's the internet. We need that anonymity.

Oh dear I'm being nasty to nazis, what a terrible person I am.

K~

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: icanteven


More progressive Marxist double standards.


Where was the outrage over Muslim bakeries that refused to bake a gay wedding cake? SILENCE......

The selective outrage and double standards is amazing!

Honestly, I don't think anyone really cares. This happened after the first cake incident, so it's old news. It gets play on alt-right sites, since it's like candy to the right - gays, Muslims, etc. It's a nice packaging of everything the right loves to talk and complain about. And, it has the added bonus of being material that the right can use to try and pit gays against Muslims. It's just too bad, for you, that it stays in an echo chamber.

originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: cenpuppie

You can be as nasty as you wanna be, who cares, it's the internet. We need that anonymity.

Oh dear I'm being nasty to nazis, what a terrible person I am.

K~

Oh noes! Who will think of the poor white supremacists and their tender feelings

originally posted by: FHomerK
a reply to: icanteven

I feel the hate GROWING within you!

Wow - that's pretty racy and filthy!

originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: FHomerK

No you're not, otherwise you wouldn't have made the vile comparison of equating gay individuals with nazis.
Typing is an action.
"and ye shall know them by their works"
K~

Same as I told the other guy.

K~

Nice editing on your part. I never said that