Obama's Birth Certificate

(Sigh)
Not this utter rubbish again?
Come on, Birtherism? In 2017? This is getting silly.

originally posted by: WUNK22
I'm just happy to be rid of that anti American community organizer! Who cares at this point, he's laughing all the way to the bank!

i can't wait for your healthcare and to be taken away, your wife or daughter raped and in no way to get an abortion for an unwanted baby, and laughed at, by your current dear orange monkey leader [in no way better than the North Korean one]


and on topic: do people still care whether Obama's certificate was real or not? what for? how will its authenticity change anything? you guys, have nothing better to worry about? like the fact the orange monkey goes on lots of golf vacations on taxpayer money? or that funds for schools and other places of public importance are being directed at destroying other nations and innocent people? [aka army] not to mention that the veterans are seen as worthless citizens of your beloved country?

what is wrong with you guys?

a reply to: Kryscent

Understanding why the WH faked a birth certificate and maintaining an investigation would be beneficial in two ways:

1) Those involved in the forgery could be questioned and brought to justice.
2) New controls could be put in place to stop foreigners from becoming the President

As for your apparent anticipation for other people's daughters getting raped...

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Kryscent

Understanding why the WH faked a birth certificate and maintaining an investigation would be beneficial in two ways:

1) Those involved in the forgery could be questioned and brought to justice.
2) New controls could be put in place to stop foreigners from becoming the President

As for your apparent anticipation for other people's daughters getting raped...

(Facepalm)
Do. Some. Credible. Research. When even Donald Trump admits that he's wrong about something it's time to come to terms with the fact that Birtherism is a conflation of laughable nonsense. Obama was a US citizen from birth. He was always eligible to stand for President.
And I see that the abortion point sailed far, far, over your head. Again.

If Hillary didn't know the truth she would have never brought it up.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Kryscent

Understanding why the WH faked a birth certificate and maintaining an investigation would be beneficial in two ways:

1) Those involved in the forgery could be questioned and brought to justice.
2) New controls could be put in place to stop foreigners from becoming the President

As for your apparent anticipation for other people's daughters getting raped...

(Facepalm)
Do. Some. Credible. Research. When even Donald Trump admits that he's wrong about something it's time to come to terms with the fact that Birtherism is a conflation of laughable nonsense. Obama was a US citizen from birth. He was always eligible to stand for President.
And I see that the abortion point sailed far, far, over your head. Again.

I asked a simple question that none of you sheep have been able to directly answer. Not a single person in 6 pages of this thread has put up one shred of hard evidence debunking the claims in the OP video I posted. That is all that was asked for. Heck, point me to some obscure blogger challenging the claims in the OP.

Pointing out Obama is not President anymore, posting stupid memes, pulling up debunking articles touching on entirely different issues, is not disproving the claims in the OP. This really shouldn't be that hard if the claims in the OP are false.

It is like I asked you guys to prove 1+1 = 2 and you numbnuts run off on some other tangent about sentence structure, posting opinions about whether HP calculators are better than Sony Calculators, debating if doing long division should be allowed in schools. None of this sh*t has to with the question at hand.

a reply to: Edumakated

It's not our responsibility to deny your ignorance. If you want to know the answer to your question, look it up yourself. Asking a forum and declaring victory when no one answers you satisfactorily is just confirmation bias.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Edumakated

It's not our responsibility to deny your ignorance. If you want to know the answer to your question, look it up yourself. Asking a forum and declaring victory when no one answers you satisfactorily is just confirmation bias.

In other words, you cannot disprove it. So instead of admitting your opinion may not be correct or at least in question, you just dig in your heals and put your fingers in your ears and scream "Nah, nah, nah..."

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
Do. Some. Credible. Research. When even Donald Trump admits that he's wrong about something it's time to come to terms with the fact that Birtherism is a conflation of laughable nonsense. Obama was a US citizen from birth. He was always eligible to stand for President.
And I see that the abortion point sailed far, far, over your head. Again.

You do know that Hillary started the whole birther movement, right? Trump just went along with her until he saw no real proof, but now all you on the left say is Trump birther this, and Trump birther that...lol Give me a break. The one thing we will never know due to that the College will never release their records is whether or not Obama had a foreign student scholarship, but in the end who really cares now...

Hillary also started the whole "17 intelligence agencies say it was Russia" too. That woman has spewed decades of false statements that many have just sheepishly taken at face value...

As far as the failing ACA... it is FAILING!! and the Dems knew it would from day one since it was never sustainable in the first place. It's failing is not a right wing event, it is both the right and left since neither want to do it correctly in the first place if they truly want to offer socialized healthcare. Oh what did we do before ACA? We are all going to die!! another give me a break...

Lastly, you know what is longer in the tooth than Obama's birth cert, and a kicked horse that is so dead it is like dust, but is still the left's front running agenda?

ABORTIONS...

Get over it.. They are not going away, there is no bogyman Right Winger ever going to touch this. If 8 years under religious Bush didn't touch it then no one will..lol

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Kryscent

Understanding why the WH faked a birth certificate and maintaining an investigation would be beneficial in two ways:

1) Those involved in the forgery could be questioned and brought to justice.
2) New controls could be put in place to stop foreigners from becoming the President

As for your apparent anticipation for other people's daughters getting raped...

(Facepalm)
Do. Some. Credible. Research. When even Donald Trump admits that he's wrong about something it's time to come to terms with the fact that Birtherism is a conflation of laughable nonsense. Obama was a US citizen from birth. He was always eligible to stand for President.
And I see that the abortion point sailed far, far, over your head. Again.

I asked a simple question that none of you sheep have been able to directly answer. Not a single person in 6 pages of this thread has put up one shred of hard evidence debunking the claims in the OP video I posted. That is all that was asked for. Heck, point me to some obscure blogger challenging the claims in the OP.

Pointing out Obama is not President anymore, posting stupid memes, pulling up debunking articles touching on entirely different issues, is not disproving the claims in the OP. This really shouldn't be that hard if the claims in the OP are false.

It is like I asked you guys to prove 1+1 = 2 and you numbnuts run off on some other tangent about sentence structure, posting opinions about whether HP calculators are better than Sony Calculators, debating if doing long division should be allowed in schools. None of this sh*t has to with the question at hand.

It's like trying to nail jelly to the wall. Yes, I know, you refuse to believe proof, refuse to stop calling those of us who have looked into this matter 'sheep', refuse to actually too properly at the context of Arpaio's campaign of silliness (isn't it odd how he was kept bring up his nonsense at politically expedient times? Oh wait, no it's not.) and refuse pointblank that you might be wrong. You claim to be looking for the truth. Look a little harder. Birtherism is utter nonsense. And it's the card that eventually failed Arpaio, who was thrown out of office at the last election. Excellent news.

a reply to: Edumakated

Can you prove any of the accusations of forgery are true?

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Kryscent

Understanding why the WH faked a birth certificate and maintaining an investigation would be beneficial in two ways:

1) Those involved in the forgery could be questioned and brought to justice.
2) New controls could be put in place to stop foreigners from becoming the President

As for your apparent anticipation for other people's daughters getting raped...

(Facepalm)
Do. Some. Credible. Research. When even Donald Trump admits that he's wrong about something it's time to come to terms with the fact that Birtherism is a conflation of laughable nonsense. Obama was a US citizen from birth. He was always eligible to stand for President.
And I see that the abortion point sailed far, far, over your head. Again.

I asked a simple question that none of you sheep have been able to directly answer. Not a single person in 6 pages of this thread has put up one shred of hard evidence debunking the claims in the OP video I posted. That is all that was asked for. Heck, point me to some obscure blogger challenging the claims in the OP.

Pointing out Obama is not President anymore, posting stupid memes, pulling up debunking articles touching on entirely different issues, is not disproving the claims in the OP. This really shouldn't be that hard if the claims in the OP are false.

It is like I asked you guys to prove 1+1 = 2 and you numbnuts run off on some other tangent about sentence structure, posting opinions about whether HP calculators are better than Sony Calculators, debating if doing long division should be allowed in schools. None of this sh*t has to with the question at hand.

It's like trying to nail jelly to the wall. Yes, I know, you refuse to believe proof, refuse to stop calling those of us who have looked into this matter 'sheep', refuse to actually too properly at the context of Arpaio's campaign of silliness (isn't it odd how he was kept bring up his nonsense at politically expedient times? Oh wait, no it's not.) and refuse pointblank that you might be wrong. You claim to be looking for the truth. Look a little harder. Birtherism is utter nonsense. And it's the card that eventually failed Arpaio, who was thrown out of office at the last election. Excellent news.

And once again, you have not put up one link or even addressed the claims in the OP. All your mental masturbation does not answer the question. If this is nonsense, then please answer the question directly.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Edumakated

It's not our responsibility to deny your ignorance. If you want to know the answer to your question, look it up yourself. Asking a forum and declaring victory when no one answers you satisfactorily is just confirmation bias.

In other words, you cannot disprove it. So instead of admitting your opinion may not be correct or at least in question, you just dig in your heals and put your fingers in your ears and scream "Nah, nah, nah..."

Sure. Let's go with that. *eyeroll* I wasn't counting on reaching you anyways. Oh well. I tried.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Kryscent

Understanding why the WH faked a birth certificate and maintaining an investigation would be beneficial in two ways:

1) Those involved in the forgery could be questioned and brought to justice.
2) New controls could be put in place to stop foreigners from becoming the President

As for your apparent anticipation for other people's daughters getting raped...

(Facepalm)
Do. Some. Credible. Research. When even Donald Trump admits that he's wrong about something it's time to come to terms with the fact that Birtherism is a conflation of laughable nonsense. Obama was a US citizen from birth. He was always eligible to stand for President.
And I see that the abortion point sailed far, far, over your head. Again.

I asked a simple question that none of you sheep have been able to directly answer. Not a single person in 6 pages of this thread has put up one shred of hard evidence debunking the claims in the OP video I posted. That is all that was asked for. Heck, point me to some obscure blogger challenging the claims in the OP.

Pointing out Obama is not President anymore, posting stupid memes, pulling up debunking articles touching on entirely different issues, is not disproving the claims in the OP. This really shouldn't be that hard if the claims in the OP are false.

It is like I asked you guys to prove 1+1 = 2 and you numbnuts run off on some other tangent about sentence structure, posting opinions about whether HP calculators are better than Sony Calculators, debating if doing long division should be allowed in schools. None of this sh*t has to with the question at hand.

nobody here has to prove anything to you, nor even wants to anymore....you simply don't believe the counter-evidence already presented in many threads here on ATS, as well as government agencies.....you trust only fringe conspiracy theories that fit your opinions.

This was stupid in 20008 and it's stupid in 2017.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Edumakated

Can you prove any of the accusations of forgery are true?

That is what the video is doing. Proving the forgery. Now, one could argue 1) the Obama birth certificate used as comparison is not "the Obama birth certificate" or 2) the template birth certificate is a fake made to line up with Obama's.

However, these seem like relatively easy things to prove one way or the other, yet no one has come out and done that so I can only conclude that the birth certificates presented are in fact unaltered.

I mean MSM loves to ridicule birthers and they have fact checked and attempted to debunk many of the previous claims. However, all of a sudden they just decide to ignore these claims and provide no alternative view after a well known figure hosts a 1.5 hour presser. Then he all of a sudden is in legal trouble. It just seem really odd to me.

I am not a birther. I like to look at issues from both sides. I recall when theories started coming out about 9/11. People would post all these claims proving their conspiracy theories. One by one, most if not all have been actively debunked. Yet, we don't see that with this latest information...

So again, I just asked someone to post or address the actual forgery issues in the OP. Unlike some of the mental midgets in this thread, I am more than willing to consider alternative viewpoints and data. Now if they would just post it we might be getting somewhere.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Kryscent

Understanding why the WH faked a birth certificate and maintaining an investigation would be beneficial in two ways:

1) Those involved in the forgery could be questioned and brought to justice.
2) New controls could be put in place to stop foreigners from becoming the President

As for your apparent anticipation for other people's daughters getting raped...

(Facepalm)
Do. Some. Credible. Research. When even Donald Trump admits that he's wrong about something it's time to come to terms with the fact that Birtherism is a conflation of laughable nonsense. Obama was a US citizen from birth. He was always eligible to stand for President.
And I see that the abortion point sailed far, far, over your head. Again.

I asked a simple question that none of you sheep have been able to directly answer. Not a single person in 6 pages of this thread has put up one shred of hard evidence debunking the claims in the OP video I posted. That is all that was asked for. Heck, point me to some obscure blogger challenging the claims in the OP.

Pointing out Obama is not President anymore, posting stupid memes, pulling up debunking articles touching on entirely different issues, is not disproving the claims in the OP. This really shouldn't be that hard if the claims in the OP are false.

It is like I asked you guys to prove 1+1 = 2 and you numbnuts run off on some other tangent about sentence structure, posting opinions about whether HP calculators are better than Sony Calculators, debating if doing long division should be allowed in schools. None of this sh*t has to with the question at hand.

It's like trying to nail jelly to the wall. Yes, I know, you refuse to believe proof, refuse to stop calling those of us who have looked into this matter 'sheep', refuse to actually too properly at the context of Arpaio's campaign of silliness (isn't it odd how he was kept bring up his nonsense at politically expedient times? Oh wait, no it's not.) and refuse pointblank that you might be wrong. You claim to be looking for the truth. Look a little harder. Birtherism is utter nonsense. And it's the card that eventually failed Arpaio, who was thrown out of office at the last election. Excellent news.

And once again, you have not put up one link or even addressed the claims in the OP. All your mental masturbation does not answer the question. If this is nonsense, then please answer the question directly.

Here you go. Have a read. Can we please turn the page on this silliness? You have a mentally deficient lunatic in the Oval Office, why don't we talk about how afraid we all we need to be?

What a hateful person! No wife sorry, I lost my health care with Obamas master plan. I couldn't keep me doctor! Fly away little birds, fly fly fly..........a reply to: Kryscent

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Kryscent

Understanding why the WH faked a birth certificate and maintaining an investigation would be beneficial in two ways:

1) Those involved in the forgery could be questioned and brought to justice.
2) New controls could be put in place to stop foreigners from becoming the President

As for your apparent anticipation for other people's daughters getting raped...

(Facepalm)
Do. Some. Credible. Research. When even Donald Trump admits that he's wrong about something it's time to come to terms with the fact that Birtherism is a conflation of laughable nonsense. Obama was a US citizen from birth. He was always eligible to stand for President.
And I see that the abortion point sailed far, far, over your head. Again.

I asked a simple question that none of you sheep have been able to directly answer. Not a single person in 6 pages of this thread has put up one shred of hard evidence debunking the claims in the OP video I posted. That is all that was asked for. Heck, point me to some obscure blogger challenging the claims in the OP.

Pointing out Obama is not President anymore, posting stupid memes, pulling up debunking articles touching on entirely different issues, is not disproving the claims in the OP. This really shouldn't be that hard if the claims in the OP are false.

It is like I asked you guys to prove 1+1 = 2 and you numbnuts run off on some other tangent about sentence structure, posting opinions about whether HP calculators are better than Sony Calculators, debating if doing long division should be allowed in schools. None of this sh*t has to with the question at hand.

It's like trying to nail jelly to the wall. Yes, I know, you refuse to believe proof, refuse to stop calling those of us who have looked into this matter 'sheep', refuse to actually too properly at the context of Arpaio's campaign of silliness (isn't it odd how he was kept bring up his nonsense at politically expedient times? Oh wait, no it's not.) and refuse pointblank that you might be wrong. You claim to be looking for the truth. Look a little harder. Birtherism is utter nonsense. And it's the card that eventually failed Arpaio, who was thrown out of office at the last election. Excellent news.

And once again, you have not put up one link or even addressed the claims in the OP. All your mental masturbation does not answer the question. If this is nonsense, then please answer the question directly.

Here you go. Have a read. Can we please turn the page on this silliness? You have a mentally deficient lunatic in the Oval Office, why don't we talk about how afraid we all we need to be?

I read the article. Thank you for posting. See, this wasn't so hard. The only problem is the article never actually addresses any claims in the forgery video.

It mentions the claims, but then never actually proves them false. They just jump right into character assassination.

Here is the paragraph to help you out:

Zullo took over and played a video that laid out the findings of two document examiners, one based in Hawaii, and another in Italy. The revelation centered on how the copy of Obama’s 1961 birth certificate matched up with another certificate, made 16 days later, by the same office. Zullo never clearly explained why the second certificate had been included in the investigation, or how Arpaio’s posse came across it. The video purported to show how the alignment of nine stampings on both certificates matched up, seemingly edited by “Photoshop, or God only knows what else,” Zullo said. The implication was that Obama’s birth certificate had been forged using this as a model.

They never actually disprove the claims. The don't disprove the nine stamping claim. The next several paragraphs are spent just ridiculing the Sheriff...not actually addressing the claims of forgery.

A fair question, which I addressed above is where did the template birth certificate come from? However, again, this should be a relatively easy thing to debunk as they give us the name of the person, yet no one has seemingly gone back to do so. Why not?

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

Here you go. Have a read. Can we please turn the page on this silliness? You have a mentally deficient lunatic in the Oval Office, why don't we talk about how afraid we all we need to be?

Let me guess: You spent about 4 seconds Googling something, and copied the link to the first article that came up. Am I right?

The author of that article is skeptical of Arapio's claim, but he doesn't disprove anything, or even offer any arguments to support his skepticism. He's also too dense to realize that the second birth certificate (which he seems to think was chosen randomly) is being claimed as the source document for Obama's birth certificate.

And you really need to brush up on your history. Birtherism started when Obama was challenging Hillary for the Democratic nomination, back in 2008. Given the timing, it was almost certainly started by Hillary's people. At that point, Obama was still relatively unknown, and few people outside the Democratic Party were taking him seriously, so it almost certainly was not anyone on the right who started Birtherism.

That's not to say it isn't true, however. Hillary certainly knows where the bodies are buried (figuratively speaking ) and could have been attempting to "out" Obama as a phony in a way that didn't involve her directly.

It's well-known in the conspiracy community that Obama's Social Security number might be fake. It's 042-68-4425, but 042 numbers were given to people from Connecticut, a state Obama has no connection to. Forget about whether he was born in the US; Obama might not even be who he says he is.