Google & Youtube Targets Above Top Secret? (and other conspiracy sites)

originally posted by: JanAmosComenius
So BBC should be omitted from Google searches? Or does not BBC broadcast in terms of UK national interest?

I don't know enough about them. They get public funds much like PBS does in the US but public funds alone doesn't make something propaganda. Day to day control still matters. Does the British government tell the BBC what goes on the air?

originally posted by: celery
But they kinda do. e.g. Fox

Fox has interests that align with Republicans, that doesn't mean the government is dictating what they publish.

originally posted by: saint4God
The contents can provide clues. For example, if you ask for me to wire you money because you're a prince of a small country, that would raise suspicion. If you wanted to let me know there's a sales going on a Khol's this weekend, that'd seem legit.

To bring in additional data though requires user tracking, something that many people are against. There are some very good reasons why we shouldn't be tracking and storing user information but at the same time creating databases that can be referenced does have a benefit to the consumer/end user as companies can tailor their products to the customer.

For example, one of my biggest complaints about the market today is that there's no way for me to know if I will like a product before I buy it. I can use recommendations and reviews but at the end of the day, I may be purchasing something that I don't want. I just don't know I don't want it yet. With enough tracking and analysis of my preferences, I can be steered towards products I'm more likely to enjoy when looking for something new.

It's a double edged sword though in trying to filter good information from marketing that's designed to sell me something I may not like because there's more profit in doing so.

I hope no one accepts any single source from people for information whether they claim it is validated or not.

Sometimes there's no choice. For example, lets look at military intelligence. There may only be one report of specific activity, especially in cases of espionage. Someone in the command chain has to determine if that information is credible based on what is essentially nothing more than that information. This applies to much more than just search data, as I said before, it has applications all over the place. Sometimes the best information is still limited so verification is tricky. A current downfall of a consensus based system is that it needs large amounts of data.

I agree with competition being a good defense...which is why I'm glad we have choices in this country. I hope it never comes down to a sole person/company provider for anything.

Choice interests me a lot. It clearly works, but it simply runs counter to how my mind works and evaluates things.

a reply to: saint4God

How many people still even USE Google for searches? I never do. As in, never. Not interested in what they want me to see. I prefer a real search, using something that doesn't track, like DuckDuckGo, for example!

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: saint4God

How many people still even USE Google for searches? I never do. As in, never. Not interested in what they want me to see. I prefer a real search, using something that doesn't track, like DuckDuckGo, for example!

This site claims 77% of planet earth uses Google which leads to 6,586,013,574 searches a day worldwide.

www.smartinsights.com...

a reply to: Aazadan

The DOJ has subpoenaed records about the alleged organizers of the anti-Trump inauguration-day protests. That is scary. DreamHost is fighting it.

GoDaddy is on the burner now for hosting Daily Stormer. Other hosts are also beginning to examine their T&Cs.

This is huge. Soon the Internet will be cordoned off from us, just like in China and N Korea.

www.msn.com...

a reply to: celery

That's one possibility. It's not hard to host a website though, there's an endless supply of hosts out there, and to the end user it's all the same thing.

If you're really concerned about the internet being cordoned off, then pay attention to the Net Neutrality ruling that's coming up in a couple weeks. The FCC just extended the comment period by about 2 weeks. Now is the time to convince them of your views. I'll probably write a thread on the subject in the coming days.

a reply to: saint4God

What's the prob with Google?

originally posted by: celery
a reply to: saint4God
What's the prob with Google?

This is a very good question, short & to the point. The concerns as best as I understand them are:

1.) Any company with dominant market share should be carefully watched because it means they retain the majority in terms of influence.
2.) Google's motto, "Don't be evil" sounds fantastic at first, but when the realization sets in that they're now attempting to define what is 'good' and 'evil' without premise other than their own corporate judgement, should be quite unsettling. (en.wikipedia.org...)
3.) Google is giving preferential treatment, violating neutrality of information. In other words, they're saying who gets broadcasted and who gets muted. The information is sterilized by the corporation rather than considered/judged/filtered by the end-user.
4.) Google believes in a single, absolute answer...which is attained from God, not by mankind. So, unless they're quoting God, they are assuming the role of God themselves.

originally posted by: saint4God

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: saint4God

How many people still even USE Google for searches? I never do. As in, never. Not interested in what they want me to see. I prefer a real search, using something that doesn't track, like DuckDuckGo, for example!

This site claims 77% of planet earth uses Google which leads to 6,586,013,574 searches a day worldwide.

www.smartinsights.com...

Well, considering that they seem to hold the market on cell phone market, with their software in most every android phone there is, I guess we shouldn't be surprised! You simply can't do anything app-related on one without using Google Play. Of course, being used as a search term, as in "Google it", didn't hurt the any, either!!

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Well, considering that they seem to hold the market on cell phone market, with their software in most every android phone there is, I guess we shouldn't be surprised! You simply can't do anything app-related on one without using Google Play. Of course, being used as a search term, as in "Google it", didn't hurt the any, either!!

I guess it comes down to two overlords in the mobile phone market, Android or iPhone (Apple). Given my previous experiences with iProducts, I guess global domination by Google isn't so bad after all.

originally posted by: saint4God

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Well, considering that they seem to hold the market on cell phone market, with their software in most every android phone there is, I guess we shouldn't be surprised! You simply can't do anything app-related on one without using Google Play. Of course, being used as a search term, as in "Google it", didn't hurt the any, either!!

I guess it comes down to two overlords in the mobile phone market, Android or iPhone (Apple). Given my previous experiences with iProducts, I guess global domination by Google isn't so bad after all.

Same as I have heard from others who have used their products!! I actually avoided getting a smart hone for a long time, till that was about the only option left for a decent phone. They have some great uses, but can be really bad, too. I use very few apps, still, and never any social media or other online accounts, save Netflix. Don't trust that stuff on my phone! Not much of one for social media, anyway, as far as that goes! I'd rather live my life than post a fake one.

What concerns me the most about the video and the subject on which is it focused – the freedom of thought is in loss here. People should have the right to know about whatever they want.

originally posted by: penmypaper
What concerns me the most about the video and the subject on which is it focused – the freedom of thought is in loss here. People should have the right to know about whatever they want.

I think everyone here would agree and with Net Neutrality now on the chopping block, that should be of great concern to all of us. Is free information coming to an end?

When Google targeted sites like ATS, you saw the Google Adsense revenue drop and the ads started to pop up here more often to share up the revenue.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
being a member here for 5+ years, if we are being targeted it's because we are on point, discuss taboo topics and will fight to get to the actual truth - these are things counter to Googles policy of agenda-driven propaganda.

Especially the Flat Earth!!! Google will never suppress this information if we have anything to say about it.

The only thing flat about the Flat Earth is the believers heads

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: saint4God

How many people still even USE Google for searches? I never do. As in, never. Not interested in what they want me to see. I prefer a real search, using something that doesn't track, like DuckDuckGo, for example!

Doesn't track guess what your ISP can see where you have been and even if you use a VPN they can see you have used that.

Default route for any conspiracy believer anything from an official source is a lie or anything that seems to be official it's geting to the point were if a conspiracy nut asked Google for the answer to 2+2 and it came back with 4 they would claim it's a lie, yet if a site like Google has anything in anyway that looks like it backs their opinion then that will be true even when everything they are supposed to be telling/linking us to is false.

Talk about paranoia

originally posted by: wmd_2008

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: saint4God

How many people still even USE Google for searches? I never do. As in, never. Not interested in what they want me to see. I prefer a real search, using something that doesn't track, like DuckDuckGo, for example!

Doesn't track

guess what your ISP can see where you have been and even if you use a VPN they can see you have used that.

Default route for any conspiracy believer anything from an official source is a lie or anything that seems to be official it's geting to the point were if a conspiracy nut asked Google for the answer to 2+2 and it came back with 4 they would claim it's a lie, yet if a site like Google has anything in anyway that looks like it backs their opinion then that will be true even when everything they are supposed to be telling/linking us to is false.

Talk about paranoia

Google does track everything; that's not paranoia, but known fact. They freely admit it.

originally posted by: Snarl
What Google doesn't seem to understand is that they are making themselves less and less relevant.

Everyday someone else turns away from Google ... permanently.

The day their search engine is not the default found in a Sheople's web browser, is the day they accelerate themselves into oblivion.

The US Army's default search engine is no longer Google. It's been switched over to Bing.

that is why net neutrality is being killed you will have no other options but to use the establizhed oligarch. innovation, competition, and free net speech be gone.