Paris attack: Police Hunt Driver who Ploughed into Soldiers on Patrol

They could begin looking in the most 'peaceful' areas of Paris, I suppose.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Tardacus

As we say in the UK , actions have consequences.
The US interventionist policy of recent years and doctrine of regime chance are the source of the problems we face today.

Is that truly what you think is the main problem. Be honest now.

originally posted by: gortex
I'm not saying we should take all refugees or economic migrants but we do have to help those from the countries we have effected

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Iraq the last conflict we actually took part in?

Why can't we help them in their own countries, don't we give large sums to improve

the lives of people in third world countries? money that is invariably pocketed by

their corrupt leaders.

Six out of 10 migrants to Europe come for 'economic reasons' and are not refugees, EU Vice President Frans Timmermans says
Many of the migrants are from peaceful countries in North Africa, Frans Timmermans says


More than half of all migrants to Europe are motivated by “economic reasons” and are not fleeing war or persecution, the vice-president of the European Commission has said.

Dutch politician Frans Timmermans said the majority of migrants to Europe are from North African countries such as Morocco or Tunisia, where there is no conflict.

“More than half of the people now coming to Europe come from countries where you can assume they have no reason whatsoever to ask for refugee status... more than half, 60 per cent,” he told Dutch broadcaster NOS.

(Sorry link isnt working)

I think asylum should mean we give them a place of safety until the time it is safe for them to return.

Since when do economic migrants return to the country they came from?

You really believe they intend to return to their country of origin

a reply to: GusMcDangerthing

Is that truly what you think is the main problem. Be honest now.

No , the main problem is the many thousands of innocent men , women and children the west has killed in its crusade across the Middle East in the last decade or so brought about by the interventionist policy and doctrine of regime change held by America and its allies , but as we know there's no such thing as an innocent Muslim ... is there.

The death of their children and families means nothing , why would we expect a response to our actions as we slaughter them in the name of freedom , they should be grateful , no ?

We kicked a hornets nest and now squeal when we get stung.

Here's the latest report of civilians given freedom

Airstrikes by a U.S.-led coalition fighting Islamic State killed at least 29 civilians including 14 children in 24 hours in the jihadists' Syrian capital of Raqqa, a war monitor said late on Tuesday. The dead included a family of 14 who had fled to Raqqa from the desert city of Palmyra, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

The coalition said in July that its strikes had killed at least 600 civilians in both Iraq and Syria since it began operations in 2014, a figure that is far lower than those given by independent monitors.
www.reuters.com...

That is the main problem.

originally posted by: CuriousPaddy
We are not obligated to help any of them. In Ireland we also receive refugees but our country is not over there bombing them to kingdom come.

Many of the refugees crossing into the boarders are not coming from Syria either, they are just coming from poor countries.

The technology you are now using to even write replys on this thread, fuels mass killings an poverty in Africa, millions living in a disgusting way, we do not help them, there is no refugee crisis mentioned in Africa.

Rwandans, we never got millions of Rwandans when they all butchered each other an countless were left living in tents.

I am sorry but you cannot have people coming to live in a country that lives in 2017 while there mindset is stuck in 1517 it will never work, it hasn't worked, it will continue to not work.

Love your so politically incorrect post

a reply to: eletheia

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Iraq the last conflict we actually took part in?

You are wrong , see my post above.

If that's sarcasm on your part which I think it is then I welcome it because what I said is the truth a reply to: eletheia

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
Not a single word about the drivers appearance, however SOME members are already on the fringe against Islam. Again. Or continually, whatever.

Guys, if you think about that, aren't you at least a little bit ashamed about your prejudice? Because it is cringeworthy, it really is.

-- For example: 2013, there was an arson attack on barracks in Germany. The suspects? Anti-war-activists.

Not at all actually. Its also cringe worthy hearing innocent people are being ran over by these animals. Plus who cares if we automatically assume it's an Islamist terrorist. It's not like I'm worried about hurting their feelings and this is their typical way of causing chaos lately.

If someone assumed it was an American terrorist, I wouldn't get all offended by it. Wanna know why, because I'm not a terrorist.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: GusMcDangerthing

Is that truly what you think is the main problem. Be honest now.

No , the main problem is the many thousands of innocent men , women and children the west has killed in its crusade across the Middle East in the last decade or so brought about by the interventionist policy and doctrine of regime chance held by America and its allies , but as we know there's no such thing as an innocent Muslim ... is there.

The death of their children and families means nothing , why would we expect a response to our actions as we slaughter them in the name of freedom , they should be grateful , no ?

We kicked a hornets nest and now squeal when we get stung.

Here's the latest report of civilians given freedom

Airstrikes by a U.S.-led coalition fighting Islamic State killed at least 29 civilians including 14 children in 24 hours in the jihadists' Syrian capital of Raqqa, a war monitor said late on Tuesday. The dead included a family of 14 who had fled to Raqqa from the desert city of Palmyra, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

The coalition said in July that its strikes had killed at least 600 civilians in both Iraq and Syria since it began operations in 2014, a figure that is far lower than those given by independent monitors.
www.reuters.com...

Thhat is the main problem.

The media does very little to report these realities, if they do, they are a little snippet and certainly not the all day repetitive stuff they want people to absorb.

Many people especially in the U.S are wanting a fight, scary times, we are at the point of repeating history.

originally posted by: gortex

You are wrong , see my post above.

The Syrian war is a civil war ?....

I believe we were helping out the Syrians (the natives) to repel Isis?

Unfortunately, truth is no war can be waged without casualities

originally posted by: CuriousPaddy
If that's sarcasm on your part which I think it is then I welcome it because what I said is the truth

It truly wasn't ..... Its well seeing you havent followed any of my postings!!!

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: gortex

You are wrong , see my post above.

The Syrian war is a civil war ?....

I believe we were helping out the Syrians (the natives) to repel Isis?

Unfortunately, truth is no war can be waged without casualities

No we are making their homeland unlivable and for some reason a bunch of them decided # it lets go get some revenge any way we can.

a reply to: eletheia

the real question is, when was the last year the "west" did Not drop a bomb in a predominantly Muslim or Middle Eastern country.... now, try the inverse

we keep on on keeping on, one bomb at a time to bring "democracy" and joy.

those orphan's, or relatives of the "casualties" of war, wtf do we think their sentiments will be toward the nation's killing and crumbling everything they know...

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

No we are making their homeland unlivable and for some reason a bunch of them decided # it lets go get some revenge any way we can.

I think Assad has done a very good job of that all by himself.

Apologies friend I read your reply quick and as soon as I posted my own reply I read through your posts on the thread. My bad it's a lost cause though arguing with the SJWs a reply to: eletheia

a reply to: eletheia

The Syrian war is a civil war ?

The roots of the Syrian war stem from Iraq and the intervention there , we lit the fuse of what would become the Arab Spring.
Civil war or not we and the other outside players involved are responsible for their actions and the causalities arising from them , a dead child is a dead child regardless of a name we give to a conflict and there have been many children killed in the so called war on terrorism.

Put in the same situation would you not seek revenge ?

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

No we are making their homeland unlivable and for some reason a bunch of them decided # it lets go get some revenge any way we can.

I think Assad has done a very good job of that all by himself.

You don't know that, you just believe what the tv told you without questioning it.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

You don't know that, you just believe what the tv told you without questioning it.

And you have special inside information??


Lets face it we all get the same information from the same places ....

Its all in the interpretation of it!!!!

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: eletheia

While I agree open borders isn't a great idea and am glad we in the UK are not part of that agreement I don't believe you can blame the many for the actions of the few , we are obligated to help those who's homes / countries we have helped destroy.

We are at war with radical Islam , they don't have the technology we posses so these kind of low tech attacks are to be expected , that's not excusing them but we must acknowledge they will happen in the course of this war.

I wish this kind of tolerance would be shown towards Germans. Back then [Germans are Nazis] and now. All I read online is always 'thanks to the Germans letting in the immigrants', not Merkel and those that have been brainwashed since birth.

But we are not brown skinned/ islamic enough to do that. Paint us all with one brush. I hate double standards.