Marijuana devastated Colorado, don’t legalize it nationally

I have never been state side so I cant comment on this story about crime and education ect Although it does not seem to have the same effect on the Dutch or any of the people who visit there. Plus I was reading a link the other day about the `` war on drugs `` in the USA and how and why it was started. The following link explains it perfectly.
edition.cnn.com...

a reply to: markovian

Interesting, its been getting a lot of radio play including fentanyl laced c0ca. A Sherrif from Hamilton county has been piping up a lot...Ill see if I can find something in print.
If not I appreciate your story.
Fentanyl itself is wreaking havoc in these parts..6 ods last thursday I believe in the next town over.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Lol!! Big differences in tinctures between 1 mil and 7 though. Gurantee I can get you to take a nap in CO.

I find it ironic that the conservative Right wants to control a substance in a state that has legalized it but in the same breath
extol the virtues of states rights.

hypocrites.....

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Lol!! Big differences in tinctures between 1 mil and 7 though. Gurantee I can get you to take a nap in CO.

I'll have to take your word for it. I haven't met anything yet and I'm not in CO anymore. My vacation is over.

originally posted by: olaru12
I find it ironic that the conservative Right wants to control a substance in a state that has legalized it but in the same breath
extol the virtues of states rights.

hypocrites.....

States' Rights only matter when liberals/Democrats are in charge. I haven't heard a single Republican talk about States' Rights since Trump won the election.

originally posted by: luthier
Shouldn't you know how strong it is and what is in it?

In California we already have a number of independent laboratories and packaging companies that are addressing the problem of consistency. But it takes time for those services to develop, particularly after they've been illegal for so long. These companies can tell you what kind of dose and chemical balance you're getting, and usually without it jacking up the price. SC Labs, for instance, is like Underwriter's Laboratories for cannabis products.

Honestly, my dispensary is starting to look more like a liquor store all the time. Yeah, I can still get raw buds, but it's really moving much more heavily into brand name derivatives and concentrates where you know exactly what you're getting. If it was nationally legal, I just know that it wouldn't take long for Absolut or Jack Daniels or Merck or whoever to start their own brand name lines of product. One of these days: "Coca-Cola® OG" with certified dose percentages. Hell, Skywalker OG oil concentrate already tastes like cola.

Just give it time.

Good God.
Just legalize the stuff already.
Tax the crap out of it and blaze em.

a reply to: feldercarb

The author should have just wrote BOO MJ !!!

There is a small percentage of people who are "programmed" to be addicted or have an addictive personality with these social drugs.

Bible thumpers kill more people than cannabis ever will.

How about this dude stay the # out of consenting adults business.

I don't think religion should be outlawed because zealots/extremists, and they pose an actual threat to innocent bystanders/civilians as opposed to the dude who just worked his 9-5 who gets home and smokes a blunt.

Also - it's worth noting that Mr. Holier Than Thou has absolutely no problem with the opiod epidemic sweeping the nation.

It's absolutely amazing. Roughly one hundred people die a day from legal drugs but we should alllllll be concerned with #ing pot.

originally posted by: olaru12
I find it ironic that the conservative Right wants to control a substance in a state that has legalized it but in the same breath
extol the virtues of states rights.

hypocrites.....

The same camp that preaches "small government, personal liberty and responsibility," are the same camp that foam at the mouth at the concept of enacting MORE alphabet agencies, expanding local/state police agencies, mandatory minimums, civil asset forfeiture, and of course - they want anyone who messes around with the devils lettuce to have their life absolutely ruined.

Because freedom.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Vacation is never long enough..

Most everything in CO is regulated very well. Amazingly it makes things safer and more predictable.

The one thing I try and make present for con cannabis folks is bottom line should be tax and control based on toxicology.

We keep waiting for more info on Marijuana but nobody is eating anyone's face off on the street over the course of 7000 years. Or dying from the poisoning on a regular basis.

originally posted by: rickymouse
I got stoned when I used to smoke. I don't think we need a real lot of stoned people in the country, it would be comparable to having drunk workers working on the job. It is psychotropic, it effects our thinking. It may have some medical benefits, I do not discount that. It should be up to the local people in the community if they want to make it completely legal and we need to set parameters for it's use if legalized. People should not be allowed to use it at work.

Why not? If I can pass a field sobriety test then I am ok to drive or work should not matter how much weed I smoked.

Why shouldnt I be able to smoke a joint then paint a house or mow a yard or answer a phone for my boss?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: rickymouse
I got stoned when I used to smoke. I don't think we need a real lot of stoned people in the country, it would be comparable to having drunk workers working on the job. It is psychotropic, it effects our thinking. It may have some medical benefits, I do not discount that. It should be up to the local people in the community if they want to make it completely legal and we need to set parameters for it's use if legalized. People should not be allowed to use it at work.

So you think that if weed is available legally then people would suddenly violate all worker intoxication rules and come to work high all the time? What kind of goofy jump in logic is that? Where is your problem with all the people taking medical opiates while on the job?

The funny thing about it all is the people who are going to smoke pot at work already do. Do you even notice? I'm not saying everyone should but if you're the kind of person that gets stupid and lazy when stoned you're probably already kind of lazy and stupid. I know lots of people, including myself, that get more productive and focus better after smoking. It also depends on the job. I wouldn't do it in any job where I had to interact with customers or be presentable in any way. Anything where I had to be directly responsible for peoples safety or needed to focus on several things at once.

But I find it helps with physically demanding or repetitive jobs, things where you need to focus intently on one thing or jobs that require a bit of free thinking or creativity.

This is all after years of trying to understand my own behaviours and thought patterns with and without while doing different things and I've found where it helped and where it didn't.

Also, I would never drink before or at any job and can't handle working with drunks. There are no situations where that helps.

a reply to: luthier

Most dispensaries are very informative about such things. Which only beginners need to worry about anyways

Please keep to the topic and remember any mention of or discussion of personal use is not allowed. It will just get the thread shut down or removed for TandC violations.

i) Narcotics and illicit mind-altering substances, legal or otherwise: discussing personal use or personal experiences as the result of such substances is not allowed in any form.

Thanks and do not reply to this post.

drugs are bad, free healthcare bad, taxing the already wealthy is bad but russia is cool!
america is nice and conditioned i see.

a reply to: Krazysh0t



That same group will fight tooth and nail (and collect donations) for "The Children" but as soon as the children are born this same group turns its back on said children...

Not directly replying to anybody but I wanted to point out that marijuana is not a narcotic nor is it legally illicit in some states that some members might be posting from.

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Good point, you don't see anyone at work showing up drunk, just because it's legal...so why would it happen with weed?

Im sure people show up with alcohol in their system. I used to work with a group who got high during lunch, every day. Functional stoners and functional alcoholics are out there more than we think.