Third Secret of Fatima Theory 2017: The tip of the spear as a flame

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For those of you who are unaware of this video.

It is one of the best video's I have come across for giving an indepth Fatima theory.

This is not my own video or theory, it was posted on youtube by user Frieza2000XTC.

It gives a theory that the third secret is tied to a secret weapon Russia has invented and will use to potential shift the earth's axis and create a cycle of natural disasters.

a reply to: ReggieWrightworth


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a reply to: InhaleExhale

Thanks for that, I updated the OP, I made the error of placing the full URL inside of the youtube tags instead of just the video code number.

originally posted by: ReggieWrightworth
a reply to: InhaleExhale

Thanks for that, not sure why the video did not work in the OP, as I placed it inside the youtube tags.

If you are new to posting YouTube videos, it's not as simple as just copy pasting the browser code into the YouTube tags.

www.youtube.com... watch?v=-ZvIibUAY2o

The portion I bolded is what you need to snip out of the YouTube browser code and stick in the tags. It's at the very end. And the code I used was a random video I was checking out on the eclipse theories.

a reply to: ketsuko

Thanks for the explanation. Yes it was my first attempt, got the hang of it eventually

a reply to: ReggieWrightworth

Reggie. Why do you think that Russia, or for that matter would anyone invent a weapon that would shift the Earth's axis and create disasters around the world. When I think about it it just makes no sense. Why invent a weapon that would affect the inventor as greatly as everyone else. It would be like dropping an h bomb on the enemy and then dropping one on themselves too.

When I come across this kind of stuff I just leave it alone because it just makes no sense. My mind is cluttered enough already and adding to it with nonsensical stuff like this just puts it in spin cycle.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: ReggieWrightworth

Reggie. Why do you think that Russia, or for that matter would anyone invent a weapon that would shift the Earth's axis and create disasters around the world. When I think about it it just makes no sense. Why invent a weapon that would affect the inventor as greatly as everyone else. It would be like dropping an h bomb on the enemy and then dropping one on themselves too.

When I come across this kind of stuff I just leave it alone because it just makes no sense. My mind is cluttered enough already and adding to it with nonsensical stuff like this just puts it in spin cycle.

I think this was covered in the 1987 film, Real Men quite well actually.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I'd be lying if I said I had an explanation as to why they would, my only guess would be that Russia is such a large country maybe a good proportion of it's land mass could survive such an attack, and it would impact it's enemies far more severely. That said, I watched this video a month or so ago, and my memory is a little hazy on the details outlined in it - planning to watch it again this week. What I do remember is it is comprehensively put together, and worth a listen/watch.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: ReggieWrightworth

Reggie. Why do you think that Russia, or for that matter would anyone invent a weapon that would shift the Earth's axis and create disasters around the world. When I think about it it just makes no sense. Why invent a weapon that would affect the inventor as greatly as everyone else. It would be like dropping an h bomb on the enemy and then dropping one on themselves too.

When I come across this kind of stuff I just leave it alone because it just makes no sense. My mind is cluttered enough already and adding to it with nonsensical stuff like this just puts it in spin cycle.

I know you directed your question specifically, but my theory is that there are way too many people, usually fueled by relgious doctrine, that think if they “burn it to the ground”, somehow their faction (be it religious, political, national) will come out on top next time around. Sure, it’s possible they will, but that is a long shot that is not worth the billions of lives it takes to place the bet (at least to me).

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Perhaps it's not actually meant to be used on Earth, but rather against the Annunaki on the inbound Nibiru, coming back for their gold and engineered sapiens.

a reply to: ReggieWrightworth

this is exactly a "theory", the author's personal view on all that.

First of all, I am skeptical Lucia allegedly said we were in xchapters 8 and 13 (not 8 to 13 as the author interprets that alleged words of Lucia). Because if she would say that, that is in essence to say the antichrist is here and now, wouldn't she disclose the secret she should keep secret?

The expectations of antichrist are nothing new. And there could be one or more, as Malachi Martin said. He/they do not necessarily appear, and I am glad that he said that, "not necessarily". Every age has its own set of antichrist, beast etc. Caliphate was very prominent one only a few centuries ago.

We don't know the key piece in the third secret, according to Malachi Martin. If it was antichrist, or WW3 or asteroid, that means we already know it. Still, upon hearing the text of Neues Europa by Art Bell, that contains pretty mmuch of all that, he said, no it is not the real secret, the core element is still missing...

My best guess is it has to do with Extraterrestrials. The only topic that has been Taboo for the Church until recently. Good ro bad? if there are bad there are good as well. If there are demons there are angels as well. Our choise is what matters.

a reply to: 2012newstart Generally Im a skeptic on most 'alternative' theories until I can at least find some relevant points that tie it all together and that it leaves the original premise plausible. A lot of the time I find that most of them have some grain of truth on which a narrative can be built, of course some are simply the fruit of fertile imaginations gone wild on the internet.

Back in the day here in the UK there used to be a tv show 'Catchphrase' where you had to guess a word, clues being in the form of what tiles you could see and tried to form a picture in your mind. Much like 'conspiracy theories' where a patchwork of tenuous if not downright looney snippets are collaged into some vision of a major disaster.

Looking now at a wealth of disaster porn, Im now looking at a picture of outrageous proportions!
What if several of the 'usual subjects' are indeed related and that we will not get the real picture till its much too late to do much about it ?

I.E
FEMA Camps & masses of plastic coffins
DUMB installations and the construction of similar private units
Unusual purchase of massive amounts of small calibre ammo and MRE's by the govt
The ongoing yes-no- no show of rumoured inbound planets
Very large telescope for the Vatican
Accounts of large scale disasters in the past, seemingly covered up
Religous revelations, elements of which have been made by multiple sources
Financial missconduct coming home to roost worldwide
Current circus that passes for world politics worldwide, seemingly orchestrated

So...playing CatchPhrase if you will, it certainly looks like somethings not right eh?
Many will use the bible as the answer, but given how many times it has been corrupted over two thousand years, Im afraid I cant do that. The old testaments the same, that goes as far as proclaiming a groups word to be held above that of God? I actually do believe in God, but its a bit abstract but I dont plan on going into that here...

BTW...I AM NOT an 'educated' man, Im a simple UK male, 60yrs old.

a reply to: ClydeBuilt

yes we have to guess sort of, what is not contained in the known versions, and is contained in the unknown.

To discuss further the video's theory, IF we are at the end times, we should see or otherwise realize the sealing of the 144,000 in chapter 7. It is a remarkable event and cannot go unnoticed. It is described so meticulously, that usually I skip the 12 tribes when I read it. They are written for a purpose. So what are those 144,000 supposed to do in the End times, and why don't we see them around yet? Even if sealed "secretly" their role will be overt.

So is the manchild in Rev 12. I have another thread for it. Pope Francis mentioned the manchild in his May 13 homily in Fatima, in the sense that all of us (all saved, all confirmed probably) are part of the image of the manchild. Well, it couldn't be the entire church because there are those who participate in the image of the woman fleeing into the desert, and then "the rest of her offspring" those who will fight the dragon (they should be in a powerful nation to be able to fight his coming Rev 12:17).

In other words, if we assume the Revelation timeline where we are at, there are many unknowns. it is not as simple to say, the antichrist rises on that date, and 3.5 y later Jesus comes...and Russia brings a superweapon to tilt the earth's axis or orbit...Why Russia? Russia lives on the same planet and cares for it. Why not the dragon's army? ET invasion or what?

And if the draconians are identified as the ultimate evil ET race by almost all insiders, then who are the good ones, who are the angelic forces? Is there a possibility the devote but uneducated faithful to mess the two of them?

Alois Irlmaier is very clear about it being the Russians and in his prophecy the Russians do something to destroy the world. It causes great tidal waves and a worldwide earthquake. A quote from his prophecy below.

"It will become dark on one day during the year. Then a huge thunderstorm will appear with bolts of lightning and thunder and an earthquake will move the earth. Do not go out of the house. No lights will burn except for candle lights. The stream of people stops. Whoever inhales the dust will develop cramps and die. Do not open the windows. Hand the windows with black paper on the glass. All open water will become poisonous, and all open food which has not been canned. Also all foods in glass will not make it."

But I think, as always, prophecy is a "perspective". So Catholics see it being all about them. A European perspective would be all about their part of the world. You have to lump them together and look for the overlap. One of the "noteworthy" overlaps can be seen all around you is the pseudo intellect of the people which allows them to hate, pass judgement, be cruel. This to me, as it rapidly ramps up, seems to be a reason to buy that 50lb bag of beans I've been looking at.

It is everything people doing that they think is smart that will do them in. It is bragging about your car and job title. It is enjoying how cunning and with cruelly you have hurt somebody (like in the forums I see very often). Almost all men have evaluated a lie and taken it into their hearts and loved it. It is because men look outwardly and judge everything they see but never look inwardly at themselves. But, what do I know.

Thank you for posting the video. I'm going to save it to my archive.

I have to agree on what you say Apollumi
Personally its either just a run-of-the mill anthill type planet where life means nothing. Or....a place where you are tested, or to educate yourself, a pass and your off to another place, a fail and you have to re-sit the course. Oversimplified, yes, but then Im not overly complicated myself.

Would a caring loving God inflict infants with cancer in their thousands ? I really dont think so, but if it were only a test and no one really died, then they might.

I am a simple pink maggot on a non-descript rock, in a spiral arm of a not that special galaxy. I dont believe in a scary-wary ghost because some jewish fella says so. I believe that God is the essence of life itself, that makes us all part of God, but does not make US God! Without life, there can be no life, life itself is sacred. Not some shiny rock or idea that one man is better than any other.

Or.....I'll just get my coat?
a reply to: Apollumi

Spiritdaily.com posted two different views on "what Lucia said" about the secret and the consecration of Russia.

One view: video shows seer confirming Fatima consecration, secret spiritdaily.org...

Another view: did Padre Pio really reveal third secret to exorcist? spiritdaily.org...

I have a question. Why should we assume Padre Pio Knew the Secret? He is a great saint, mystic, etc etc. But Our Lady didn't appear to him to tell him the Third Secret, instead She chose the shepherd 10y old Lucia.

originally posted by: Apollumi
Thank you for posting the video. I'm going to save it to my archive.

Your welcome. While I find the alien subject interesting, my personal gut instinct is the missing element Malachi Martin talks about will concern Russia. I liked the explanation in the video about the Miracle of the Sun, that if a weapon is used that can effect the Earth's axis it would appear to us on Earth that the sun is spinning in the sky.

a reply to: ReggieWrightworth

thsi video and theory practically assumes Russia to be the beast/antichrist power, if it will use that terrible hypothetic weapon After the Chastisement (after the Trumps etc).

I don't see in Russia the Little Horn of Daniel, neither an atheistic force today. Moreover, we don't know whether the end times are now or not. Malachi martin said quite clear, "Not necessarily" on the question should the antichrist manifest hiumself in our days, even if he is present. That brings to mind every age has its own antichrist(s) but none of them raised to the power of Revelation 13.

Moreover, the alleged words of Lucia that the author quotes, said we lived in chapter 8 AND 13, not 8 TO 13. That is a significant difference. Chapter 8 is not antichrist yet. The mentioning of Chapter 13 (if the report is correct that Lucia said so) could mean one of those precursors. |Because where are the other events, including Chapters 11 and 12, that the author does not want to comment. namely, the Two witnesses coming from heaven (most probably Enoch and Elijah), AND The Manchild that should be born Before the dragon landing, rise of beast and so on. We don't have the 144,000 youths present visible or sealed visible. I doubt it would be invisible spiritual sealing only. If so, why not the rest of the book to be taken only symbolic and spiritual?

I doubt the authenticity of many of the letters assigned to Lucia, many of her alleged words from interviews of third persons. They contradict each other. Finally, a video from Lucia was published in the public internet domain, where she says plainly Russia was consecrated in 1984 and started conversion although not perfected. Too much controversy each time when someone claims "Lucia said so" and brings forth unimaginable theories. Including holy people like Fr Amorth, holy but not allowed to know the Secret themselves. Now she said it live on camera, thus putting an end of speculations about Russia, if not of speculations about the Third Secret that she does not reveal.

If the video somehow is not true, then we should discuss the hypothetical double of Lucia, something that should be proven substantially before drawing any conclusions.

Russia cannot be the missing part of the secret, simpyl because Russia is present in the known part. Something is missing and that something we are not told of. Neues Europa version, I recommend it to all who didn't read it yet, contains both planetary and man made cataclysms, oceans turning to steam, great war, and Satan sitting among bishops and cardinals (not specifying a pope as some interpreters did). And Malachi martin said that ALl of That does NOT contain the Main Element of the Secret. Therefore, not even Satan in Vatican is the real secret.

Of course, everyone will remain with his own views until that Day. What we do here is not to convince someone who has chosen what to believe, rather to list different views. The video author's view is rather hypothetic. Sure Russia has the capabilities to destroy nations, so does USA and others. One does not have to have Star Wars Death Star for that purpose. I don't see the point why should Russia want to destroy the planet she is sitting on. While it can win a "less destructive" nuclear war in less than 30 minutes, as Putin said. But the author wants to explain far not only Fatima but everything from the Apocalypse with the bad role of Russia...

there are many more realistic scenarios of the 3 days of darkness, 1/3 darkness, and so on. As for example the approach of Planet X (not noticed by now), or others some of which I already spoke of. It was predicted also by non-christians including by Japanese princess (failed in 2012 but the nature of the prediction is as valid except for the timing that obviously always failed until now if we are still here talking...). In case of imminent catastrophe, perhaps leading governments and churches will offer last moment exit way, if we do not count only on God's angels to come and resuce us directly..(my preferred way...).

Perhaps gateways to other planets known from movies and spoken by insiders actually exist, both natural and modified manmade. Why otherwise all ancient books speak of similar terms, Gilgamesh, Vikings connected worlds, Indians Vimanas, pyramids and so on. If we (the majority of people) don't know of their existence, it doesn't mean they do not exist. May be Vatican knows many more secrets than just Fatima. And therefore its reluctance to start the process of disclosure. I wonder, at the final count, will the pope and the bishops side with the world's population and serve its salvation, or not?

a reply to: ReggieWrightworth

One question, at some point he said they would not dare release a fake because it was known they would do forensic analysis of the fake pages. Has a forensic analysis been done on those pages this video considers real? If not, then it kind of makes the rest of the video pointless, i stopped at that because he never said otherwise, he just kept going as if saying that proves the written statements are real without a doubt.