Behind Fox News' Baseless Seth Rich Story: The Untold Tale

Behind Fox News' Baseless Seth Rich Story: The Untold Tale

uhoh....


S. Spicer just spilled the beans....

www.rawstory.com...

originally posted by: olaru12

Behind Fox News' Baseless Seth Rich Story: The Untold Tale

uhoh....


S. Spicer just spilled the beans....

www.rawstory.com...

Looks like Spicer is ready to start throwing his old employer under the bus after the treatment he received.

a reply to: IAMTAT

The what?

a reply to: Greven



According to this just out on Yahoo, trump okayed the story and wanted it out ASAP......here you go!

www.yahoo.com...

a reply to: Grambler

I'm interested to see how this develops. Rod Wheeler has credibility issues. It is worth noting that this was essentially Rod Wheeler's story way back in May.

The Private Detective Who Ignited A Clinton Conspiracy Theory Says He Was Misquoted

Late Tuesday, Wheeler told BuzzFeed News he knew about possible emails linking Rich and WikiLeaks because of a FoxNews.com story by reporter Malia Zimmerman. Wheeler, who is also a Fox News contributor, said he doesn't know who her source is and hadn't personally seen any evidence suggesting that Rich leaked emails to WikiLeaks.

Wheeler told the same thing to CNN, adding that the comments he made to Fox 5 in DC were intended to promote the Fox News story.

"I only got that [information] from the reporter at Fox News," Wheeler told CNN.

What makes these claims interesting to me is that he's actually citing meetings with people including Spicer. This isn't just Wheeler claiming that Butowsky said he the President's ear. Butowsky is also seemingly confirming at least one of his own text messages:

Lawsuit: Fox News concocted Seth Rich story with oversight from White House

Included in the lawsuit is a text message from Butowsky to Wheeler in which Butowsky writes, "Not to add any more pressure but the president just read the article. He wants the article out immediately. It's now all up to you. But don't feel the pressure."

Butowsky told CNN that this message was a joke referring to what he said was Wheeler's desire for a job with the Trump administration. "This was Rod and I," Butowsky said. "We teased all the time. We were basically telling him you are doing a great job and that the president or the White House or somebody would be interested in meeting you."

It is also interesting that as Konduit noted, after a lapse of some period, Wheeler resumed pushing innuendo about the Seth Rich murder and the DNC on Twitter as recently as 5 days ago.

Where were they when it was PROVEN that many in the MSM were in total cahoots with the DNC and Hillary?

Do we have specific information that a MSM outlet, coordinating with the DNC or the Hillary Clinton campaign, conspired to fabricate a story? With all the partisan operatives working as commentators and analysts for the media, a certain level of coordination doesn't surprise me.

A lot of it is straight up in your face coordination like Hannity and Trump. Hell, Hannity was just having dinner at the White House with the Trumps and Scaramucci. Rupert Murdoch reportedly has regular calls with Trump.

Is it sleazy? Yea but it's also pretty commonplace. Administrations leak to friendly reporters, partisan editors tow the party line, etc. I'm not sure I really see that as comparable to what's alleged in the lawsuit, unless Hannity is fabricating stories in coordination with the WH.

I'm rambling a bit here but in general, I don't know how *legally* to avoid a certain level of coordination (actively or passively) between the media and politicians without infringements on freedom of the press that might result in a worse state of affairs.

As individuals and as a society, we can however be informed and aware of these relationships and determine how it impacts their credibility, if we want to consume their content at all, etc.

I will also add that the White House directly coordinating with the media to fabricate fake news is pretty much as egregious as it gets in the area of media/political collusion. It's bordering on Orwellian. This ain't, "Hey Sean, you think you could devote some more time to the Clinton scandals?"

originally posted by: Grambler
I am sick and tired of not having a free press. I don't care who is in office; the press is supposed to critique them in a fair and honest way and be the voice of the people. It is clear that this is not the case.

I would argue that the press put the shackles on themselves a long time ago--a "free press" has just been a magic trick* kept alive by the constitution, but in practice, it's all garbage, or at least nearly all of it.





* They're illusions, Michael.

a reply to: bknapple32

It's their BATTLE CRY since buttery males and Beeeeenghaaaaaaaziiiiii is tired and worn out.

POLLS show Trump could murder someone in cold blood and his following wouldn't suffer...

The question: "If Donald Trump shot someone on 5th Avenue, would you approve or disapprove of the job he's doing as president?"

45 percent approve.
29 percent disapprove.
26 percent aren't sure.

LINK

THIS is the level of blind fanaticism we have...

a reply to: Greven

The irony is thick. The crusaders against fake news (i.e., anything that doesn't look good for them) are actually the purveyors of fake news themselves. Fox and friends (the WH, apparently) are running a veritable poop factory of misinformation and lies. When this train finally comes off the rails, it's going to be ugly....

So...we have:

1. FIRING Comey

2. CRAFTING a lie after the G20 meeting with Putin for his SON about the Russian meeting

3. PUSHING a fake news story

ANY of the above would have had Obama behind bars.

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: Greven

The irony is thick. The crusaders against fake news (i.e., anything that doesn't look good for them) are actually the purveyors of fake news themselves. Fox and friends (the WH, apparently) are running a veritable poop factory of misinformation and lies. When this train finally comes off the rails, it's going to be ugly....

When John Kelly gets this information, the most straight shooter in the WH...I wonder if Trump is going to fire him as well. Ugly indeed!!

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: Greven

The irony is thick. The crusaders against fake news (i.e., anything that doesn't look good for them) are actually the purveyors of fake news themselves. Fox and friends (the WH, apparently) are running a veritable poop factory of misinformation and lies. When this train finally comes off the rails, it's going to be ugly....

When John Kelly gets this information, the most straight shooter in the WH...I wonder if Trump is going to fire him as well. Ugly indeed!!

Ha! Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised at all...

FUNNY how little traction this is getting.

The very SAME people who scream FAKE NEWS! turn out to buy into fake news themselves...

FOX: Your Daily Dose of State-Sponsored Propaganda!!!

a reply to: Greven
Did you notice how one member happened to mention the ''Deep State''. Not once but so far in five replies. Quick little rebuts pointing to the deep state as the culprit behind any information that discredits the value of anyone finding gaping holes in the fragile message of the far right?

One might wonder at the intent of pushing that two word meme,''Deep State''. We know that repetition is one of the hallmark signs of propaganda so it's usage in a recurring pattern like that might be just that. Pushing the meme using a term that connotes something deeply hidden and behind the scenes so as to not be studied closely by novices to the conspiracy and political world.

Pushing a meme like that can easily become a trash can for any and all information that one does not agree with. Kind of like when we were children and we broke moms favorite dish, the blame could be put on ''little Johnny'' the baby in the house who could not defend himself. Who can defend against blaming any of these nefarious hidden and powerful groups that no one can pin down.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

"Deep State" = "the man" or "New World Order".

a reply to: DanteGaland

ANY of the above would have had Obama behind bars.

I've heard and read this kind of comparison made many times, so I decided to think about it.

The implication is that people of a certain political ideology are quick/reactive to certain stimuli, whereas the people with the other ideology are more deliberative, willing to suspend judgment until more facts are known.

So I'm thinking of a case:

James O'Keefe
When his videos portraying ACORN workers seemingly aiding a couple in criminal planning hit the 24-hour cable news cycle, the U.S. Congress quickly voted to freeze funds for the non-profit. The national controversy resulted in the non-profit also losing most of its private funding before investigations of the videos concluded no illegal activity occurred. In March 2010, ACORN was close to bankruptcy and had to close or rename most of its offices.[9] Shortly after, the California State Attorney General's Office and the US Government Accountability Office released their related investigative reports. The Attorney General's Office found that O'Keefe had misrepresented the actions of ACORN workers in California and that the workers had not broken any laws. A preliminary probe by the GAO found that ACORN had managed its federal funds appropriately.[10][11] One of the fired ACORN workers sued O'Keefe for invasion of privacy; O'Keefe issued an apology and agreed to pay $100,000 in a settlement.

Then Breitbart wanted his stuff and he started Project Veritas.

Quick fake news right when congress is in session. Then shrill demand for immediate action. That's what the actual fake news producers like; action before investigation.

I guess in the case of this thread subject: Deflection before Investigation

I just realized the irony of my last sentence: Either side could say that about the other. So to clarify, the cooked up Fox story is deflecting from the actual investigation of Russian activities; at least in the minds of the ...

originally posted by: DanteGaland
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

"Deep State" = "the man" or "New World Order".

=the illuminati=the powers that be=the reptillians. All of these are receptacles for blame when the information does not jibe with our already established conception of things.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

"Deep state" has been a widley-used propaganda term recently. Mostly used by the Right Wing, including Fox News and other Right Wing media outlets, to build the narrative that there is a secret collaboration going on behind the scenes to bring Trump down.

It's nothing more than an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.

Too many people fell for it.

How unsurprising. Exploit a dead man, hurt his grieving family... perfectly in line with Trumps moral compass.

a reply to: Greven

I could have told them that the DNC killed Rich for leaking and once he was murdered his life insurance kicked in. The people he trusted are ready to get even too.

They did release it all, and found a way to reach out and touch people involved.

People fleeing the country is not for fear of the law.

There be batmen yall.

Its cray cray.

Also, the Russia narrative is the only available smoke screen and is crumbling, making people make mistakes and has left those that want to get even with an ace in a hole.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

"Deep state" has been a widley-used propaganda term recently. Mostly used by the Right Wing, including Fox News and other Right Wing media outlets, to build the narrative that there is a secret collaboration going on behind the scenes to bring Trump down.

It's nothing more than an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.

Too many people fell for it.

A problem you leftist fail to realize is that its exactly just that, leaks and the MSM pushing fake news to undermine our Presidency.

No sirs, not fake and don't think you can take solace in that view.
Don't be pissed at us for your crappy choices in life, I get it, your world, its done, a new era approaches.