Waiting for the anti-christ

Most people think the anti-christ is something bad. I have a different view....a large % of the world is Christian or live in a system that has a CHRISTian foundation as the base for their economic system (Atheists included) or Christian connection. Look at the state of our world....to me, it's a mess.

That means something is wrong with the message of Jesus....not only was he not perfect (Which is a relative term, so means nothing in an absolute sense)...but a serious flaw at the core. What is it..just look at my profile photo.

So...therefore..the anti-christ will be positive...because the AC will show definitively the flaw of Jesus and how it has limited us from growing / being better.

Therefore, AC in my view is positive...

Hmm...

What message of Jesus is so bad that warrants an "anti"?

Can't think of one myself...🤔


a reply to: dontneedaname

a reply to: dontneedaname

I think we take a lot for granted and lose sight of plenty of great amenities in this life, and products of our civilization's progress.

Clean water. Sewage system. Rapid and personal transportation. Shelter and air conditioning. Electricity. Entertainment. Computers and much more.

Is it perfect? No, not at all. Is there still sadness and suffering? Yes.

The world is working on these things, it doesnt happen over night, but I think there's a lot to be thankful for.

Also, who's to say if we have truly and perfectly followed Christ and God as a civilization? Is it possible we have deviated at times, due to free will and a propensity for mistakes?

a reply to: dontneedaname

I think you need to be careful with your assertions. When you're stood at judgement, MAN you're going to wish you didn't write that.

originally posted by: SteamyJeans

Hmm...

What message of Jesus is so bad that warrants an "anti"?

Can't think of one myself...🤔


a reply to: dontneedaname

free health care, jesus never demanded payment and americans call that bad.

Maybe this is a dumb question, but how is it not known Jesus wasn't the anti-christ?

a reply to: dontneedaname

Not sure if I agree but I know you are crazy too. It made me wanna run away.

Jesus never demanded payment?

Well, that was up to him.



Who says that's bad?

a reply to: growler

I found this Googling it:

originally posted by: SteamyJeans

Hmm...

What message of Jesus is so bad that warrants an "anti"?

Can't think of one myself...🤔


a reply to: dontneedaname

LOVE.

Love is blind....

example...generally speaking...human race loves themselves to death (This happens on an individual level too). To the exclusion and suffering of the rest of the planet's inhabitants...and ultimately ourselves because we are dependent on them.

Loving our culture...which blinds us to different ways of doing things that others have learned.

Loving ourselves is aka - having an inflated ego. Look at foreheads of many adults and compare to baby foreheads. Some might say...having an ego -- period.

If we don't love ourselves, we may obsess over someone else or something else. Again, blinding us to other things in life and blinding us to the bigger picture.

Maybe hard to fully grasp in 1 short ATS post...I could go on...but that's all I really want to say. Events will speak for themself.

a reply to: Joneselius

if you experienced what I have...you wouldn't say that.

fear blinds us too....and fear is rooted in self-LOVE ; self-awareness

You're right, it's a lot bigger than ATS posts.

And will take a much larger response.

How familiar are you, really, with the "words in red"?

I'm no expert, but I don't quite see how your examples relate.

Also, I'm not a Christian.


a reply to: dontneedaname

originally posted by: dontneedaname
Most people think the anti-christ is something bad. I have a different view....a large % of the world is Christian or live in a system that has a CHRISTian foundation as the base for their economic system (Atheists included) or Christian connection. Look at the state of our world....to me, it's a mess.

That means something is wrong with the message of Jesus....not only was he not perfect (Which is a relative term, so means nothing in an absolute sense)...but a serious flaw at the core. What is it..just look at my profile photo.

So...therefore..the anti-christ will be positive...because the AC will show definitively the flaw of Jesus and how it has limited us from growing / being better.

Therefore, AC in my view is positive...

You say Jesus is bad because people didn't love each other and stop doing terrible things?
Everything that Jesus said for people to do was to do good. Don't do bad.
everyone already knows the difference between good and bad, but your post tells me that isn't quite true always. You seem to have them reversed.

The message Jesus preached was to love each other. Not seek to harm each other.

By reversing this and claiming it is all flawed exposes you yourself as an anti-Christ. It isn't too late though. You can still repent, admit your mistake and learn to understand how not to repeat this falsehood you are now promoting.

For me it is really sad to see this happening to so many people. A total reversal of what is good, now being promoted as bad. Up is down, lies are now truth, etc. We see this everywhere, every day. You must break free.

The Anti Christ are here and are flooding the Christian nations right before your very eyes, don't fooled into looking for any one individual because History says they will never have one single leader with the Shiite and Sunni hating each other more than anything...except maybe Israel that is about the only topic they could possible unite under.

a reply to: LooksLocked

Hallelujah. ..I always thought Donny fit the bill like your photo! Both False Prophet and Anti Christ.

Jesus' message is not wrong, it is the church and its false teachings that are to blame in my opinion along with numerous other factors. They have distorted Jesus' message and changed it into something that it was never meant to mean in my opinion.

There are layers to the biblical narrative, page by page. Most churches only teach the top layer leaving the inner layers never touched upon. You have to "read between the lines" in a spiritual and philosophical way in my opinion to get the actual message, turn the narrative inward and relate it to your own existence and your own light.

The antichrist is already here and has been here throughout history, it is the church and those who wage wars. The bible says many antichrists have existed and will exist again.

Something "wrong" with the message of Jesus? Which chapter & verse are you referring to? And yes, Jesus was perfect -- perfect in the sense that he was WITHOUT sin -- which made him perfect in God's eyes. None of us are without sin, clearly, so WE'RE not perfect. Just like Adam and Eve were "perfect" in all their ways after God created them, until iniquity/sin was found in them.

And you certainly aren't the first to "accuse" Jesus, either. Nothing new under the sun:

Luke 11:15-20 - "But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils. But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth. If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? Because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub. And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore shall they be your judges. But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you."

IN addition to that, it was already forewarned by him (and innumerable times throughout the Bible) about how WICKED and unholy this generation would be. Because of Jesus and his message, lol? Oh please... It's his message that men may ESCAPE the coming Judgement. Hence why he (the MESSIAH) was sent. And it's no wonder even Satan himself had the gall to try and entice him with worldly power -- which is EXACTLY what the ANTI-Christ is going to entice YOU with.

originally posted by: dontneedaname
Most people think the anti-christ is something bad. I have a different view....a large % of the world is Christian or live in a system that has a CHRISTian foundation as the base for their economic system (Atheists included) or Christian connection. Look at the state of our world....to me, it's a mess.

That means something is wrong with the message of Jesus....not only was he not perfect (Which is a relative term, so means nothing in an absolute sense)...but a serious flaw at the core. What is it..just look at my profile photo.

So...therefore..the anti-christ will be positive...because the AC will show definitively the flaw of Jesus and how it has limited us from growing / being better.

Therefore, AC in my view is positive...

There's tens of millions of people who were killed horribly in Adolf Hitler's little grab for political power. Many would agree that he (and the movement he spawned) was an antichrist of sorts.

Of course the final antichrist, as revealed in the bible, is demonic and will cause the deaths of more than 2/3rds of the population of the Earth (hanging and decapitation have been mentioned by some) before he is stopped.

You pick your side.

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: dontneedaname

I think you need to be careful with your assertions. When you're stood at judgement, MAN you're going to wish you didn't write that.

Bull.....God has left us in this screwed up world...and judges us for struggling just to endure it.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: dontneedaname
Most people think the anti-christ is something bad. I have a different view....a large % of the world is Christian or live in a system that has a CHRISTian foundation as the base for their economic system (Atheists included) or Christian connection. Look at the state of our world....to me, it's a mess.

That means something is wrong with the message of Jesus....not only was he not perfect (Which is a relative term, so means nothing in an absolute sense)...but a serious flaw at the core. What is it..just look at my profile photo.

So...therefore..the anti-christ will be positive...because the AC will show definitively the flaw of Jesus and how it has limited us from growing / being better.

Therefore, AC in my view is positive...

There's tens of millions of people who were killed horribly in Adolf Hitler's little grab for political power. Many would agree that he (and the movement he spawned) was an antichrist of sorts.

Of course the final antichrist, as revealed in the bible, is demonic and will cause the deaths of more than 2/3rds of the population of the Earth (hanging and decapitation are mentioned) before he is stopped.

You pick your side.

Really? How many millions has "god" killed? (According to the Bible).
Oh wait....the motto must be "do as I say, not as I do".