Rubio Attempts to pass Islamic Blasphemy Laws

a reply to: skynet2015

Huh?

Did you look at the govtrack link? It's a resolution condemning hate crimes, not a new law. It also points out incidents of hate crimes against a number of other groups.

Is there anything about your OP that is factual?

Keep on reading fake news blog IWB and the likes of the hate mongers at "creeping sharia" and Pamela Gellar. It's not like they would ever lead you astray.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

"Special needs" against hate crimes against them?

I suggest that they take a peek in the mirror.
Plenty of headless unbelievers in the Middle East see the hate coming from the religion of peace.

Are you suggesting that all Muslim Americans are terrorists or supporters of terrorism?

No.
You can read, I think.
Your post was made to suggest that I am suggesting it though.
Do you deny that it is illegal to possess a Bible in some countries in the Middle East?

originally posted by: skynet2015
This is old news but,

Disguised as hate crime protections, Sen. Marco Rubio "in order to protect minority communities", has attempted to pass a law that holds all Americans under criminal prosecution for Blasphemy, as categorized under (and only under) the Islamic religion. This bill does not protect Amish, Mennonites, Quakers, Seventh Day Adventists, Satanists, Wiccans, Buddhists, or Jews. It does not protect Christians or prosecute American citizens for saying negative things against Buddha, against Jesus, or against the Goddess or Horned God, but it DOES empower legal repercussions against people criticizing Muhammed, Islam, and Islamic terrorists.

investmentwatchblog.com...

creepingsharia.wordpress.com...

I don't think there's a single word in the entirety of your OP that bears even a passing semblance to the truth.
As others have pointed out, it's not a law. It's a non binding resolution. Give due diligence a try and don't believe everything you read on Facebook or see on YouTube.

www.congress.gov...

Condemns hate crime and any other form of racism, religious or ethnic bias, discrimination, incitement to violence, or animus targeting a minority in the United States. Affirms that the United States stands united in condemning hate and evil in all forms. Rejects hate-motivated crime as an attack on the fabric of society and the ideals of pluralism and respect.

Calls on federal law enforcement officials, working with state and local officials, to: (1) expeditiously investigate all credible reports of hate crimes and incidents and threats against minorities in the United States, and (2) bring the perpetrators to justice..

Encourages: (1) the Department of Justice (DOJ) and other federal agencies to work to improve the reporting of hate crimes, and to emphasize the importance of the agencies' collection and reporting of data pursuant to federal law; and (2) the development of an interagency task force led by the Attorney General to collaborate on the development of effective strategies and efforts to detect and deter hate crime in order to protect minority communities.

Calls on the executive branch to continue to: (1) offer federal assistance that may be available for victims of hate crimes; and (2) carry out safety and preparedness programs for religious institutions, places of worship, and other institutions that have been targeted because of their affiliation with any particular religious, racial, or ethnic minority in the United States.

Try the truth sometime and try to avoid hyperbolic scare tactics.

a reply to: skynet2015

Little Marco can pull his lower lip up over his head and swallow deeply. Freedom of speech means FREEDOM of speech.

a reply to: DBCowboy



Rubio can stick this in his pope and smack it.

a reply to: peter vlar

I don't think there's a single word in the entirety of your OP that bears even a passing semblance to the truth.

And non-surprisingly, that still hasn't stopped some of these posters from doubling down on the BS even though it's clear they didn't read anything about it, either.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

"Special needs" against hate crimes against them?

I suggest that they take a peek in the mirror.
Plenty of headless unbelievers in the Middle East see the hate coming from the religion of peace.

Are you suggesting that all Muslim Americans are terrorists or supporters of terrorism?

No.
You can read, I think.
Your post was made to suggest that I am suggesting it though.
Do you deny that it is illegal to possess a Bible in some countries in the Middle East?

You're the one who said they should take a good look in the mirror.
Of course I don't deny that it is illegal to possess a Bible in some countries. Nor do I deny that there are Islamic violence in the Middle East.

a reply to: skynet2015

I hope everyone who had a hand in this gets herpes.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

"Special needs" against hate crimes against them?

I suggest that they take a peek in the mirror.
Plenty of headless unbelievers in the Middle East see the hate coming from the religion of peace.

Are you suggesting that all Muslim Americans are terrorists or supporters of terrorism?

No.
You can read, I think.
Your post was made to suggest that I am suggesting it though.
Do you deny that it is illegal to possess a Bible in some countries in the Middle East?

You're the one who said they should take a good look in the mirror.
Of course I don't deny that it is illegal to possess a Bible in some countries. Nor do I deny that there are Islamic violence in the Middle East.

I never said 'all American Muslims', nor did I mean that.
My point stands that Muslims are just as capable of hate as any other person.... religious or not.
Does it hurt to check oneself for hate?

a reply to: butcherguy

This thread is not about Muslims in the Middle East. This is about Muslim Americans. Of course anyone is capable of hate. That doesn't give us the right to commit hate crimes against Muslim Americans.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: butcherguy

This thread is not about Muslims in the Middle East. This is about Muslim Americans. Of course anyone is capable of hate. That doesn't give us the right to commit hate crimes against Muslim Americans.

I didn't mention the Middle East in the post that you just responded to.
I don't commit hate crimes against Muslims anywhere, nor do I believe that I have a right to do that.

Maybe you will get the point if I spoon feed it to you.

I brought up the Middle East in my first post to make a point.
I live in the United States.
The US has a Constitution that guarantees freedom of religion.
To act as if this country is a hotbed of hatred is wrong.
We allow people to worship as they please here. How many Catholic churches are there in Saudi Arabia?
We are a pretty accepting bunch here.

a reply to: butcherguy

What would the point of bringing up the Middle East be? Nobody here is denying that Islamic violence exist in the Middle East. Maybe I don't understand your point? Maybe you aren't clear. Who are you referring to when you said they should take a peek in the mirror?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
That doesn't give us the right to commit hate crimes against Muslim Americans.

My main issue, crime is crime. Nobody has a "right" to commit any crime, that's essentially the living root of the law. There is NO rationale to having special "hate crime" legislation and, to make things worse, the existence of such laws violates federal law where the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment is concerned. If punching someone in the face is a crime that deserves a month in jail, then that must be the standard whether the victim is black, white, yellow, or red... whether they worship Jesus, Allah, or Hordak Lord of Etheria... whether they like chicks, dudes, both, or neither. Crime is crime and when we start passing legislation that applies special protections to individuals and groups dependent on the differences between them and their assailants, we've created a lopsided joke of a jurisprudence system in which the mere ideology of equal protection is fully absent.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I suppose some see it as more punishment for hate crimes against the minorities to deter such behavior. People have no problem adding more punishment for people who commit crimes against cops because they hate cops.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: burdman30ott6

I suppose some see it as more punishment for hate crimes against the minorities to deter such behavior.

What's deterring minorities from committing crimes against the rest of us, then?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: butcherguy

What would the point of bringing up the Middle East be? Nobody here is denying that Islamic violence exist in the Middle East. Maybe I don't understand your point? Maybe you aren't clear. Who are you referring to when you said they should take a peek in the mirror?

There are Muslims that hate, living here in the US.
Will you deny that now? Was the Ft. Hood shooter showing love when he killed people while shouting alluhah ahkbar?
I explained why I mentioned the Middle East.
You seem to enjoy painting people as Islamophobes.
Have fun with that. It is hate-lite IMO.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: burdman30ott6

I suppose some see it as more punishment for hate crimes against the minorities to deter such behavior.

What's deterring minorities from committing crimes against the rest of us, then?

You mean people who hate the "whiteys" for example? Nothing.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: butcherguy

What would the point of bringing up the Middle East be? Nobody here is denying that Islamic violence exist in the Middle East. Maybe I don't understand your point? Maybe you aren't clear. Who are you referring to when you said they should take a peek in the mirror?

There are Muslims that hate living here is the US.
Will you deny that now? Was the Ft. Hood shooter showing love when he killed people while shouting alluhah ahkbar?
I explained why I mentioned the Middle East.
You seem to enjoy painting people as Islamophobes.
Have fun with that. It is hate-lite IMO.

I have never ever denied that. You are putting words in my mouth. And I have never called you an Islamophobe.
And no you have not explained why you mentioned the Middle East. It has nothing to do with this thread. Many Christians commit violence in other countries and here as well. Should the Christians here take a peek in the mirror as well?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: butcherguy

What would the point of bringing up the Middle East be? Nobody here is denying that Islamic violence exist in the Middle East. Maybe I don't understand your point? Maybe you aren't clear. Who are you referring to when you said they should take a peek in the mirror?

There are Muslims that hate living here is the US.
Will you deny that now? Was the Ft. Hood shooter showing love when he killed people while shouting alluhah ahkbar?
I explained why I mentioned the Middle East.
You seem to enjoy painting people as Islamophobes.
Have fun with that. It is hate-lite IMO.

I have never ever denied that. You are putting words in my mouth. And I have never called you an Islamophobe.
And no you have not explained why you mentioned the Middle East. It has nothing to do with this thread. Many Christians commit violence in other countries and here as well. Should the Christians here take a peek in the mirror as well?

I will repost it:


I brought up the Middle East in my first post to make a point. 
I live in the United States. 
The US has a Constitution that guarantees freedom of religion. 
To act as if this country is a hotbed of hatred is wrong. 
We allow people to worship as they please here. How many Catholic churches are there in Saudi Arabia? 
We are a pretty accepting bunch here.

If you can't understand that, I don't know what I can do to make it clearer.

This thread is about a single religion getting something special proclaimed for them. I never said that Christians shouldn't look into the mirror.
You didn't mention Buddists or Jews, if I were like you, I would make a huge point of that to make you look like you are singling out Christians.

a reply to: butcherguy

This thread is about a single religion getting something special proclaimed for them.

The OP is, but the OP is based on a false premise not grounded in the reality of the actual language within the resolution.

There is no single religion getting a special privilege.