Operation Downpour - FULL SCALE EXERCISE 8/03/2017

originally posted by: deckdel
a reply to: AnonSapien

So, do I read it right, that they are preparing for a terrorist strike with a dirty bomb or with neurotoxins?

Probably something like that. They don't do exercises for their daily jobs. They do them for scenarios they wouldn't otherwise be prepared for. I used to do these all the time. Wait, wasn't the world supposed to end after that massive one?

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
a reply to: tigertatzen

Which leads back to the "we were just doing a drill when..."

I would not want an unknown spray that can coat my skin's ability to breath to spread on me. Even for a good cause!

a reply to: Diabolical1972

Drainbamage saves the day!

There is an old tale of a man in a village. He's got a farm, a wife, they have a son, etc. Everybody stops by and says, "Your life is good!" He always responds, "Good... bad... who can say?" A series of alternating bad and good things happen to him during his life. Everybody stops by: "You got a new horse! That is good!"; He answers; "Your son broke his leg from riding the horse, how bad!"; He answers; "The army conscripted all able bodied men. Good thing your son had a broken leg!"; same answer. That goes on a couple more times but you get the idea.

We don't get to see everything, all at once. We do not get to choose only the good. Even if you could, that is not really living life.

I'm glad I'm over way past the left coast! That's good! But who can really say?

eta - Glad you recovered enough to be here!

Drills are happening everywhere every single day. It's like saying "imagine a shark attacked while people were at the beach!"

originally posted by: Marlborough Red

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: deckdel

Disaster testing is very important.

If the real thing happens. It's good to know they practiced what works and what doesn't work.

And we all know what happens when they start conducting drills and preparing for disaster / terrorist strikes.....

MR

START conducting drills and disaster prep?

Aw. You think it ever stops. Adorable.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

That was my initial thought.

I'm suppose to believe that

each volunteer will be sprayed three times with a harmless mix of baby oil, oil of wintergreen, and a ginger extract

equates to the equivalent of how toxic materials, like nano-toxins, will respond in a controlled situation?

Something about this special camera must be pretty valuable.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Oh I agree! The only way I'm submitting to a chemical shower is if I know I've been exposed to something...it's not even remotely worth it to take that risk just for a mock drill. And especially not for ten measly bucks!!

originally posted by: M4ngo
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

That was my initial thought.

I'm suppose to believe that

each volunteer will be sprayed three times with a harmless mix of baby oil, oil of wintergreen, and a ginger extract

equates to the equivalent of how toxic materials, like nano-toxins, will respond in a controlled situation?

Something about this special camera must be pretty valuable.

If it were simply baby oil and wintergreen, they would not have included the laundry list of health requirements. No way. That sounds like a placating disclaimer to keep people from questioning this too much. Which is damned strange...if people willfully submit to being doused with chemicals, there should be no need to make a mitigating statement like that. Very odd indeed.

NBC Decon is a notoriously laborious process, and hardly suitable for large numbers of people in any kind of a timely fashion. This has been confirmed in numerous military exercises. Because time is a mortal enemy in the decon process, they're probably trying to figure out how to decon the majority of people quickly leaving only the most contaminated for the full-blown "technical" decontamination procedure.

The camera equipment is likely photo-spectrometry gear which is already being widely used to scan large masses of people in places like airports. This and next-generation trace detection equipment, also widely in use already.

Interesting chemical cocktail they're using as well. The two oils (baby and wintergreen) would probably simulate nerve agents, which have an oily consistency, very well. The wintergreen and ginger compounds have a strong and lasting spectral signature too, similar to nerve agents.

Sounds like this exercise is geared heavily to a neurotoxin event more so than a nuclear one. Of course they could be adding other markers into the mix and just not telling people. It would probably be interesting to take a Geiger counter to this experiment.

Interesting.

ETA...Some of the medical warnings are curious though. Sounds like the application method will be via an aerosolized substance, this would explain the asthma warnings, especially with wintergreen which would indeed aggravate an asthma condition. The aspirin warning is curious though. They must be using something with aspirin in it for the decon process and don't want people to already have aspirin in their system (as it is a known blood thinner). The high BP warning is probably related. Many people with high BP take blood thinners of some form. This would tend to confirm whatever they're doing will likely involve aspirin or some similar agent with blood thinning qualities.

a reply to: tigertatzen

Dont you want super powers? How are we supposed to get super powers if we dont get a chemical bath or something?

LoL

We should help our first responders, I just wouldnt do this. Trust is thin these days.

a reply to: tigertatzen

The asthma warnings make sense, especially with the wintergreen and ginger. The aspirin and high BP DQ criteria are telling though. This would pretty much tend to confirm there is/are some other chemical(s) involved in this exercise somewhere along the way.

The more I think about this...isn't Bayer Corporation (the aspirin mfr.) also heavy in DOD world? I know they make numerous pesticides which have many similarities to neurotoxins used in weapons.

a reply to: Marlborough Red

Yeah people freak out and come to ATS to start threads.

Doom porn at it's finest.

originally posted by: illuminnaughty
I would not volunteer, nor go any where near that place and after what has happened on 911 - 7/7 ect and any one who does. Should think again to many of these things go wrong.

Emergency/disaster drills literally take place every week, all over the country, from drills limited to city response all the way up to drills with city, state, and national agencies involved. The conspiratorial mind ignores all of these and only focuses on the ones that coincide with and actual disaster.

Well crap. We just had a tornado drill in the federal building. I better be on the look out for a HAARP generated storm today!

originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Sounds like they're actually gonna douse them with chemicals. W in T actual F is wrong with these people...that's gotta be ten dollars an hour rather than just a stipend. Wow.

Depends on the chemicals I am being doused with...I pay good money for some of them...hehe

Not sure what to say. It's 3:20 am chicago time in Kansas. We been getting heavy rain with earthquakes expecting a massive earthquake. Anyway I went side some reason something told me to get a hand full of grass and smell it. Well it's been raining for days here. So I grab grass and smell and the most strongest Wintergreen smelling s*** I've ever smelt. What to do there trying to kill all us wtf. Help?

originally posted by: Saintgermain
Not sure what to say. It's 3:20 am chicago time in Kansas. We been getting heavy rain with earthquakes expecting a massive earthquake. Anyway I went side some reason something told me to get a hand full of grass and smell it. Well it's been raining for days here. So I grab grass and smell and the most strongest Wintergreen smelling s*** I've ever smelt. What to do there trying to kill all us wtf. Help?

Dude....breathe, and then call your doctor.

Now.