Congressman Asks NASA if There's Evidence for an Ancient Civilization on Mars

What an interesting coincidence.

A friend of mine shared a cia document with me today regarding a remote viewing of Mars 1 million years ago and the description of a civilization.

He probably would not let me share it on here because, well, getting banned leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

originally posted by: Groot
What an interesting coincidence.

A friend of mine shared a cia document with me today regarding a remote viewing of Mars 1 million years ago and the description of a civilization.

He probably would not let me share it on here because, well, getting banned leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Yep it's been posted 2x this year
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Very fascinating read

Did your friend leave you with the impression that he had secret access lol. It's declassified information if it is what it is.

originally posted by: jeep3r
Obviously Rohrabacher got the time frames slightly wrong, but he does IMO deserve respect for publicly asking that question in such a direct manner. Or did he just do his grandson a favor?

I think he's simply asking a question that his constituents might want to ask, but he may not seriously be thinking it was necessarily true.

In this article, a spokesperson from his office said this:

“Because of his position on the space committee, [Rohrabacher] not infrequently gets inquiries about this from far and wide. He was looking for something definitive. Apparently, many of those who covered the exchange didn’t hear the wink in his voice.”

Republican Congressman Asks the Important Question: Were There Ancient Civilizations on Mars?

originally posted by: Arnie123
Oh!! S+F

In drive thru, will comment later. Dbl chz, dollar menu at Mc, heheh

"Do you want fries with that?"

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation

originally posted by: Groot
What an interesting coincidence.

A friend of mine shared a cia document with me today regarding a remote viewing of Mars 1 million years ago and the description of a civilization.

He probably would not let me share it on here because, well, getting banned leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Yep it's been posted 2x this year
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Very fascinating read

Did your friend leave you with the impression that he had secret access lol. It's declassified information if it is what it is.

Well, he did work with NASA and good friends with John Lear. And yes, I know it was a declassified document.

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
There is no evidence that I'M AWARE OF. Direct quote from Dr. Farley. Could be nothing but it also could mean everything. My online expertise tells me that he is lying or not entirely telling the truth.

Your "online expertise"? Really?? What the hell is that? OF COURSE Dr. Farley said, "As far as I am aware." That's standard practice. No scientist speaks in absolutes because statistically speaking there's always a chance he'll be wrong. To read more into that statement than was really there is grasping at invisible straws and proves nothing. These guys who testify before Congress often are compelled to so before loons. Remember when Rep. Johnson (D-GA) suggested a building boom and population increase on Guam would cause the island to tip over, capsize, and sink? A completely absurd notion, right? But Admiral Willard, being quite polite to the Congressman, said, "We don't anticipate that happening." It's the same sort of statement. The Admiral did not say, "No, that's absurd, you blithering idiot. An island cannot capsize." He said he didn't anticipate it doing so. Using your same "online expertise" it's obvious the Admiral is lying and Guam may capsize at any moment!

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
There is no evidence that I'M AWARE OF. Direct quote from Dr. Farley. Could be nothing but it also could mean everything. My online expertise tells me that he is lying or not entirely telling the truth.

Your "online expertise"? Really?? What the hell is that? OF COURSE Dr. Farley said, "As far as I am aware." That's standard practice. No scientist speaks in absolutes because statistically speaking there's always a chance he'll be wrong. To read more into that statement than was really there is grasping at invisible straws and proves nothing.

Quite true. Dr. Farley used the correct terminology and phrasing that a scientist is trained to use.

In science, there are usually no absolutes -- scientific data can suggest something is extremely likely to be true, but not 100% true. There is always may be a very slight statistical chance that there could be something that runs counter to the data and scientific findings.

So when theory is being formulated, even if a scientist feels that theory is a true representation of nature, the theory will be worded with phrases such as "almost surely" or "almost certainly" or "almost never".

Those three terms have a specific meaning in science, and are not just thrown around haphazardly, but are used with specific intent.

Dr. Farley saying "Bot that I'm aware" is an extension of that idea.

I mean, how would Dr. Farley known for 100% absolute certain that there has never been a civilization on Mars? For him to respond to the congressman's question by saying "No -- That's impossible, Congressman" would be an inaccurate statement. It certainly is "possible", even if our understanding of Mars indicates that it is highly unlikely.

originally posted by: Snarl

If all human life died off today, it would be hard for an emerging intelligent species to recognize the extent of our civilization merely a thousand years from this moment. Maybe the only things left standing might be the megalithic structures we stare at in awe in this age ... maybe a coke bottle found intact here and there.

Indeed, I think it was in the documentary "Life After People" where scientists analysed the decay of our structures once they are no longer maintained. Nature would regain everything and after 10.000 years the only things left standing would be the pyramids of Giza (although almost entirely covered in sand).

a reply to: HawkeyeNation

A scientist could never claim there was never a civilization..

It's just a normal science disclaimer for anything that doesn't violate the laws of physics...

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
There is no evidence that I'M AWARE OF. Direct quote from Dr. Farley. Could be nothing but it also could mean everything. My online expertise tells me that he is lying or not entirely telling the truth.

Your "online expertise"? Really?? What the hell is that? OF COURSE Dr. Farley said, "As far as I am aware." That's standard practice. No scientist speaks in absolutes because statistically speaking there's always a chance he'll be wrong. To read more into that statement than was really there is grasping at invisible straws and proves nothing. These guys who testify before Congress often are compelled to so before loons. Remember when Rep. Johnson (D-GA) suggested a building boom and population increase on Guam would cause the island to tip over, capsize, and sink? A completely absurd notion, right? But Admiral Willard, being quite polite to the Congressman, said, "We don't anticipate that happening." It's the same sort of statement. The Admiral did not say, "No, that's absurd, you blithering idiot. An island cannot capsize." He said he didn't anticipate it doing so. Using your same "online expertise" it's obvious the Admiral is lying and Guam may capsize at any moment!

Is what a joke dude, a joke! That's why I said "online" to make the impression that everyone can be an expert lol.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: HawkeyeNation

A scientist could never claim there was never a civilization..

It's just a normal science disclaimer for anything that doesn't violate the laws of physics...

Ya I know...it's just the same boring crap we always hear.

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
There is no evidence that I'M AWARE OF. Direct quote from Dr. Farley. Could be nothing but it also could mean everything. My online expertise tells me that he is lying or not entirely telling the truth.

Your "online expertise"? Really?? What the hell is that? OF COURSE Dr. Farley said, "As far as I am aware." That's standard practice. No scientist speaks in absolutes because statistically speaking there's always a chance he'll be wrong. To read more into that statement than was really there is grasping at invisible straws and proves nothing. These guys who testify before Congress often are compelled to so before loons. Remember when Rep. Johnson (D-GA) suggested a building boom and population increase on Guam would cause the island to tip over, capsize, and sink? A completely absurd notion, right? But Admiral Willard, being quite polite to the Congressman, said, "We don't anticipate that happening." It's the same sort of statement. The Admiral did not say, "No, that's absurd, you blithering idiot. An island cannot capsize." He said he didn't anticipate it doing so. Using your same "online expertise" it's obvious the Admiral is lying and Guam may capsize at any moment!

Is what a joke dude, a joke! That's why I said "online" to make the impression that everyone can be an expert lol.

Ha ha, meaning you're just as obscure as you say Dr. Farley was. People believe literally ANYTHING around here, from chemtrails to Sasquatches on Mars. Discerning who is actually "joking" (especially after the fact and especially when people are agreeing with you) is rather difficult without some sort of hint.

a reply to: jeep3r

I would like to answer that question for NASA. YES, there are fossils and remnants of stone structures on Mars. There are either small organisms or fossils of them and perhaps......life still mostly under the surface.

originally posted by: Snarl
Congressman Rohrabacher: Any chance there was a civilization on Mars?
Dr. Farley: That is extremely unlikely.

See. They asked the wrong question.

It's not "Was there a civilization on Mars?"

The question is, "Is there any evidence that an advanced civilization may have 'visited' mars?"

If we visit the moon, and leave a US Flag there, and later the Chinese go to the moon, the Chinese scientists can also say that "There's no evidence that there was a civilization on the moon." There was no civilization on the moon, but "man" did "visit" the moon, and left some artifacts there.

a reply to: jeep3r

Wonderful thread that compliments the recent Mars Remote Viewing discussion. Thank-you Jeep3r! S&F.

I don't see much to discuss here. It's clear or should be that he gets questions like that from constituents and was just doing his due diligence. I doubt there is any significance to this other than it was nice of him to do that.

NASA PR have been told to say these things to especially congress. Congress questioning the Air Force is the reason the Air Force pulled the Project Blue Book scam.

And quite a few planetary scientists have stated publicly that Mars was habitable millions of years ago, not billions like this guy tried to say. He's just parroting the NASA pre-planned agenda which is the same now as it was before Blue Book and the Condon report.
Well before anything major happened the policy was openness and transparency. Now it is secrecy, denial, and usually ridicule as well..

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

And quite a few planetary scientists have stated publicly that Mars was habitable millions of years ago, not billions like this guy tried to say. He's just parroting the NASA pre-planned agenda ..

He's clever. He says no civilization thousands or billions of years ago, conveniently leaving out the millions of years ago time frame.

originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

And quite a few planetary scientists have stated publicly that Mars was habitable millions of years ago, not billions like this guy tried to say. He's just parroting the NASA pre-planned agenda ..

He's clever. He says no civilization thousands or billions of years ago, conveniently leaving out the millions of years ago time frame.

Surprises me how some of our elected officials don't know how to word questions properly. The question is, "Do you have evidence of any kind that there is, or ever has been, a civilization at Mars?"

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

And quite a few planetary scientists have stated publicly that Mars was habitable millions of years ago, not billions like this guy tried to say. He's just parroting the NASA pre-planned agenda ..

He's clever. He says no civilization thousands or billions of years ago, conveniently leaving out the millions of years ago time frame.

Surprises me how some of our elected officials don't know how to word questions properly. The question is, "Do you have evidence of any kind that there is, or ever has been, a civilization at Mars?"

He appeared nervous and reluctant to even ask the question, and that points directly to the military agenda and successful manipulation of our society to expect ridicule for even posing questions like that.

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: HawkeyeNation
There is no evidence that I'M AWARE OF. Direct quote from Dr. Farley. Could be nothing but it also could mean everything. My online expertise tells me that he is lying or not entirely telling the truth.

Your "online expertise"? Really?? What the hell is that? OF COURSE Dr. Farley said, "As far as I am aware." That's standard practice. No scientist speaks in absolutes because statistically speaking there's always a chance he'll be wrong. To read more into that statement than was really there is grasping at invisible straws and proves nothing. These guys who testify before Congress often are compelled to so before loons. Remember when Rep. Johnson (D-GA) suggested a building boom and population increase on Guam would cause the island to tip over, capsize, and sink? A completely absurd notion, right? But Admiral Willard, being quite polite to the Congressman, said, "We don't anticipate that happening." It's the same sort of statement. The Admiral did not say, "No, that's absurd, you blithering idiot. An island cannot capsize." He said he didn't anticipate it doing so. Using your same "online expertise" it's obvious the Admiral is lying and Guam may capsize at any moment!

Is what a joke dude, a joke! That's why I said "online" to make the impression that everyone can be an expert lol.

Ha ha, meaning you're just as obscure as you say Dr. Farley was. People believe literally ANYTHING around here, from chemtrails to Sasquatches on Mars. Discerning who is actually "joking" (especially after the fact and especially when people are agreeing with you) is rather difficult without some sort of hint.

Ya I cant blame ya there. You never know