BBC pay scandal

Background
The BBC is a public-funded media outlet in the UK where everyone in the UK who watches live television, be it via TV, internet or phone, has to pay the license fee of around £150 per household, per year and it will now rise each year in-line with inflation. Even if you do not watch the BBC, you have to pay!

The Scandal
If that's not scandalous enough, the BBC (also known as the Brussels Brainwashing Corporation) has now been forced to release a list of employees who are paid more than £150k per year (more than our Prime Minister btw) and it's quite staggering how much some of these so called celebrities are paid.
For example, Gary Lineker is paid between £1.75m-£1.8m per year and all he does is read an autocue for about 30 minutes each week discussing football.
The highest paid 'star' is Chris Evans who is paid between £2.2m-£2.25m per year. So that works out as 14,666 households yearly license fee contributions just for one person!

Top 10 earners...

1. Chris Evans £2.2m - £2.25m
2. Gary Lineker £1.75m - £1.8m
3. Graham Norton £850,0000 - £899,999
4. Jeremy Vine £700,000 - £749,999
5. John Humphrys £600,000 - £649,999
6. Huw Edwards £550,000 - £599,999
7. Steve Wright £500,000 - £549,999
= 8. Claudia Winkleman £450,000 - £499,999
= 8. Matt Baker £450,000 - £499,999
= 9. Nicky Campbell £400,000 - £449,999
= 9. Andrew Marr £400,000 - £449,999
= 9. Stephen Nolan £400,000 - £449,999
= 9. Alan Shearer £400,000 - £449,999
=9. Alex Jones £400,000 - £449,000
10. Fiona Bruce £350,000 - £399,999

The Hypocrisy
The BBC is well known for its biased liberal left-wing reporting. They talk about how the rich are getting richer and poor are getting poorer (which is true) but surely they are also partly to blame for this too! They're taking money from the poor and giving it undeservedly to the already rich and we don't have a choice but to pay.
The BBC constantly talks about men being paid more than women while only a third of the 96 top earners for the BBC are female and the top seven earners are all male.

The Solution
I think the only solution to this is to stop paying the license fee. I've been seriously considering doing this but just not sure if that's a wise idea. I don't want to be fined £1000.
Here is a great thread from two years ago which gives me some encouragement, but not sure if the BBC have become more aggressive, have better technology or can get warrants easier to catch people. Would be great if anyone has any updated info or recent experiences of this.

I could write a lot more about this. Particularly about the hypocrisy of these grossly paid celebrities, especially Gary Lineker and the views that come out of his mouth/twitter. But I don't want to flood my OP and would like other people's opinions on this first.


Sources:
www.dailymail.co.uk...
www.bbc.co.uk...
www.theguardian.com...

originally posted by: 83Liberty
I think the only solution to this is to stop paying the license fee.

No, that's not the solution as the BBC is a quality service. Go live abroad and you will clock what I mean. The solution is for pay transparency and for these high salaries to be curtailed.

I don't buy the logic that if you don't pay XYZ a bag of gold he'll work elsewhere, because who gives a toss if he does. There's plenty of talent out there that does not cost two million.

a reply to: 83Liberty

You really have to ask yourself, do these individuals contribute $X amount of money based on their job duties and deliverables?

Most likely the answer is "HELL NO". But the same goes for pretty much all major corporations, as well as politicians, other entertainers and even "non-profit" executives.

It's incredible to me they can justify some of these salaries.

Does British television have commercials like American broadcast television?
15 minutes of every hour is beer, car and erectile dysfunction add.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: 83Liberty
I think the only solution to this is to stop paying the license fee.

No, that's not the solution as the BBC is a quality service. Go live abroad and you will clock what I mean. The solution is for pay transparency and for these high salaries to be curtailed.

I agree some of their shows are amazing, particularly David Attenborough's wildlife documentaries.
Pay transparency will lead to pay increases not pay decreases, so that's not going to solve the problem.
So just wait for the BBC to cut these high salaries, I wont be holding my breath.

I prefer my solution to be honest.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Does British television have commercials like American broadcast television?
15 minutes of every hour is beer, car and erectile dysfunction add.

Yeah but not on the BBC, as it is publicly funded.

a reply to: Bluntone22
The BBC does not. That's why the licence fee is needed.
Independent television channels do (without the last one).

originally posted by: 83Liberty
1. Chris Evans £2.2m - £2.25m
2. Gary Lineker £1.75m - £1.8m
3. Graham Norton £850,0000 - £899,999
4. Jeremy Vine £700,000 - £749,999
5. John Humphrys £600,000 - £649,999
6. Huw Edwards £550,000 - £599,999
7. Steve Wright £500,000 - £549,999
= 8. Claudia Winkleman £450,000 - £499,999
= 8. Matt Baker £450,000 - £499,999
= 9. Nicky Campbell £400,000 - £449,999
= 9. Andrew Marr £400,000 - £449,999
= 9. Stephen Nolan £400,000 - £449,999
= 9. Alan Shearer £400,000 - £449,999
=9. Alex Jones £400,000 - £449,000
10. Fiona Bruce £350,000 - £399,999[

LOL...two women in a list of 15 of the highest paid talking heads.

And women in the U.S. complain about a gender wage gap. Geez.

a reply to: 83Liberty

Just stop paying it! I haven't given them a penny for years. They send letters, about 4 or 5 different ones, on a cycle. Big scary red words telling you to pay or else basically, in reality there's not a thing they can do. They cannot access your property unless they get a court order and they cannot get a court order until they can prove you are watching live tv and they can't.

If you get anyone from TV licensing coming to your property immediately tell them you have revoked their implied rights of access, don't give them your name anb then tell them to go and pound sand. Not a god damn thing they can do.

Why would anyone pay anything to a corporation heavily affiliated with pedophilia anyway, corrupt bar stewards.

a reply to: 83Liberty

I don't think it is a scandal nor do I think the BBC should be forced to reveal what it pays its talent , this has been whipped up by the government to further undermine the Beeb and give the press something to feed on.

If the BBC doesn't pay the money another channel will.

While I agree these wages are ridiculous to us, if you remember the farce when "the Great British Bake off" was purchased by channel 4, most of the people involved were propbably offered more money than what the BBC paid, If Chris Evans left the BBC for A private station I am sure he could command A higher wage, and the same with Lineker, I bet he earns more from his Walkers adverts than his BBC pay, he also works for BT I bet they pay him more than his BBC pay.

For me it just highlights how much as humans we have become slaves to the square box, the price paid is reflected by the demand to tune in and drop out

BUT I will say the BBC is far better than SKY or ITV in my opinion

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: 83Liberty
I think the only solution to this is to stop paying the license fee.

No, that's not the solution as the BBC is a quality service. Go live abroad and you will clock what I mean.

The irony is people then pay for satellite packages to watch international television, Since TopGear lost the big three I have not some much as turned on BBC, there is way more choice and some would argue quality out there, it is not the 1980's...


Scrap the bloody TV licence and allow advertising, the BBC is about as impartial as I am a f#cking monkey, (I am not)...


RA

the only scandal around the beeb are the kipper, daily mail types who cry bias whenever brexit gets shown up for what it is.
if anyone can point me at a political reporter that wasn't in the young conservatives, it would be a start.

i would like to know how much itv waste on piers morgan.

The BBC aren't very left wing at all when it comes to their rabid support of Israel. They're not biased towards left or right they're just a mouthpiece for whatever the establishment agenda is at that time.

I think Adam Curtis might be the one truly subversive voice in the whole corporation and even he toes the line on occasion.

1. Chris Evans £2.2m - £2.25m
2. Gary Lineker £1.75m - £1.8m
3. Graham Norton £850,0000 - £899,999
4. Jeremy Vine £700,000 - £749,999
5. John Humphrys £600,000 - £649,999
6. Huw Edwards £550,000 - £599,999
7. Steve Wright £500,000 - £549,999
= 8. Claudia Winkleman £450,000 - £499,999
= 8. Matt Baker £450,000 - £499,999
= 9. Nicky Campbell £400,000 - £449,999
= 9. Andrew Marr £400,000 - £449,999
= 9. Stephen Nolan £400,000 - £449,999
= 9. Alan Shearer £400,000 - £449,999
=9. Alex Jones £400,000 - £449,000
10. Fiona Bruce £350,000 - £399,999[

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Does British television have commercials like American broadcast television?
15 minutes of every hour is beer, car and erectile dysfunction add.

Not on the BBC.

Well they do advertise their own programming between shows, but the shows themselves aren't interrupted with random nonsense,

a reply to: ZIPMATT

Campbell was born in Edinburgh, Scotland, and adopted at four days old. He was educated at the independent school Edinburgh Academy. His adoptive mother was a psychiatric social worker and his adoptive father a publisher of maps.

In 1989, during his first marriage, Campbell traced his birth mother and after having children of his own with Ritchie, Campbell decided to find his Irish biological father in 2002. Whereas his birth mother was from a Dublin Protestant family, his biological father was a Northern Irish Catholic thirteen years younger than her. He also discovered that his grandfather had been in the IRA at the time of Michael Collins, and his biological father had spent time in the fifties in the IRA and still had Republican beliefs. Campbell's cousin, Anthony Hughes had also been in the IRA and was killed by British troops in Armagh in 1973.[citation needed] In 2004, Campbell wrote Blue-Eyed Son [Story of an Adoption], his account of being adopted and tracing both his birth parents and his extended families in Ireland. Both sides of his birth families helped with and contributed to the book. His birth mother, Stella, died in 2007; Campbell spoke at her Dublin funeral. As a result of his book and his work promoting adoption, he was asked to become a Patron of the British Association for Adoption and Fostering (BAAF).[12]

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Does British television have commercials like American broadcast television?
15 minutes of every hour is beer, car and erectile dysfunction add.

Channels outside of BBC do but not to the degree that US channels have advertising, hence the license fee. Which in my opinion is nothing but a new version of the abolished poll tax. The TV licence is so out of sync with modern times. A yearly license fee costs more for example than a 12 month Netflix subscription. The only thing I ever watch on BBC is sport and the occasional drama which more often than not end up on Netflix. The license should be optional, if you don't pay it your blocked from viewing and using BBC services. As for the pay scandal I think it's in line with other channels wether or not that provides value to the license payers is another question

The Big Questions is a faith and ethics television programme usually presented by Nicky Campbell. It is broadcast live on BBC One between 10:00am and 11:00am on Sunday, replacing The Heaven and Earth Show as the BBC's religious discussion programme.[1]

Panellists have included notable atheist[2][3][4] Richard Dawkins, convert to Roman Catholicism Ann Widdecombe, Imam Ibrahim Mogra, Muslim commentator Mohammed Ansar, Scottish philosopher John Joseph Haldane, Bible scholar Francesca Stavrakopoulou, Lord Carey, Jonathan Bartley, Peter Hitchens, Alexander Goldberg, Ian McMillan, Andrew Pinsent, Stephen Law, Tommy Robinson, Michael Nazir-Ali, Samuel Westrop and Decca Aitkenhead.

Some of whats paid to who : Nicky Campbell

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: 83Liberty
I don't think it is a scandal nor do I think the BBC should be forced to reveal what it pays its talent , this has been whipped up by the government to further undermine the Beeb and give the press something to feed on.

The BBC is publically funded and every household are forced to pay for it, so it is our right to know where the money is being spent. We should also expect our money to be spent wisely and not on overpaid 'celebrities'. Many people could do just as good a job as these people do, if not better.

If the BBC doesn't pay the money another channel will.

Then I say let them go to another media outlet that is not publically funded.