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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Not letting the children be who they are is child abuse. You're the one who said that we should let children mature and explore dynamics. If the transgender children express themsevles as the opposite sex, allow them.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Sheye

yes a mental abuser and an idiot


According to the article, many wished they would not have gone through with surgery, and to not warn people and make children aware of this ,is the real child abuse .

Maybe , veracity ,it is you who is the actual child abuser, but I don't think you have bad intentions with children, so I won't call you that. But I don't think you think this through ,with true wisdom in your heart and mind , if you call someone like me a child abuser. 🤔




this is a religious, fake article, please do not believe everything you read on the internet.


I don't think its fake at all, and actually have logical common sense behind them. So none of these people exist ? Pffft .. they do , as well as many more who are coerced into covering up how they truly feel by the LGBTQ communities.

Judging the way some are targeted here for speaking their minds I have no doubt those who speak out about regrets are targeted and hated on by their very own. How sad for those with deep regrets .



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

Let me see if I can explain this. A mental illness is categorized by thoughts or moods that make it difficult to function in day to day life. Examples of mental illnesses are depression, anxiety, bi-polar, schizophrenia, dementia, etc.

Some of these illnesses are just inherent in an individual, like bi-polar disorder or schizophrenia - these are permanent and meds relieve the symptoms, but they must be on meds for life. Some of them are temporary and caused by some other issue. For example, many times depression and anxiety are caused by some other issue in the person's life. They could be caused by issues like a divorce, or being struck by cancer, or some other trauma. The person isn't psychotic, they are just having trouble dealing with the other issue. Oftentimes, giving the person therapy and meds until the issue is resolved will solve the problem. Once the other issue is resolved, meds are usually no longer needed.

Psychosis disorders have similar symptoms and follow similar pathways. People with gender dysphoria don't have the same types of psychotic symptoms. They dont hear voices, they dont have severe mood swings, they don't see things that aren't there. Other than the depression and anxiety they suffer from having the dysphoria, they are perfectly capable of functioning in their jobs and day to day life. They aren't psychotic, they are just having trouble dealing with their other issue.

We don't know exactly what causes gender dysphoria, but new research suggests the issue is neurological and happens during development in utero. In other words, not psychological, but neurological.

What the medical community has found is that no kind of meds or therapy will get rid of the dysphoria. The only treatment that had been successful is to encourage the person to live as the gender their brain tells them they are. By doing that, the other mental health issues like depression and anxiety usually are greatly relieved. Of course, there can be continuing issues in the trans person's life (like being disowned by their friends and family) that can perpetuate the depression and anxiety issues. But if the trans person has the acceptance and support of friends and family, they usually don't need anti-depressants or anti-anxiety meds anymore. In other words, they are cured!

If they are accepted by society and are not discriminated against, they go on to lead normal and productive lives.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: Sheye

LGBTQ communities do not cover up how they feel, that is what they stand for...being who they want to be even in the eye of scrutiny from their peers in their community.

Let gays be gay and let trans be trans...with the same rights as us straights.

And please let the parents of these children be loving and accepting.

any parent who tries to hide or force the child to be what they do NOT want to be is a form of abuse. Its very sad actually.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Yes they should mature and figure things out on their own, and if that's who they truly are, then I'm fine with that.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:38 AM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Not letting the children be who they are is child abuse. You're the one who said that we should let children mature and explore dynamics. If the transgender children express themsevles as the opposite sex, allow them.


There you go putting words and meanings into my posts again DA 🙄

I said basically children should be allowed to mature , and with good wise guidance . After some point as adults they have the free will to make their own choice on the matter, and hopefully it is one that is healthy and requires less damage control.

I didn't say it perhaps in those same words , but it was the intent of what I said.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Sheye

It was directed at knowledgehunter.

Anyway you said that parents should encourage their transgender children to like their own biological sex. What is your suggestion if the transgender children persist in expressing their gender identity?



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Sheye

LGBTQ communities do not cover up how they feel, that is what they stand for...being who they want to be even in the eye of scrutiny from their peers in their community.

Let gays be gay and let trans be trans...with the same rights as us straights.

And please let the parents of these children be loving and accepting.

any parent who tries to hide or force the child to be what they do NOT want to be is a form of abuse. Its very sad actually.


A little about living a lie from a regretful transgender..




In fact, there even is a website entitled SexChangeRegret.com, which features the stories of people such as Finch. Another such individual is Matthew Attonley, 30, who underwent genital mutilation seven years ago and had since been living under the name “Chelsea” Attonley, but now wants to de-transition. The Daily Mail quoted him as saying last month: It is exhausting putting on make-up and wearing heels all the time. Even then I don't feel I look like a proper woman. I suffered from depression and anxiety as a result of the hormones too. I have realised it would be easier to stop fighting the way I look naturally and accept that I was born a man physically. And given that opponents of genital-mutilation surgery are often accused of trying to force people to live a lie, something Attonley said was quite interesting: “I have always longed to be a woman, but no amount of surgery can give me an actual female body and I feel like I am living a lie,” reports the Mail.


(post by veracity removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: Sheye

Also the article mentions God.

Except for, say, a guy who had sex-change surgery and now would like to have his penis back. (The one God gave him.)

Sorry it is bias right wing fake news.
I'm out I suggest doing what Jesus would do and love and accept folk.


So anyone who is Transgender, Gay, Bisexual, Non-sexual, Non-binary etc...cannot believe in God? Also they are automatically liberal?

And as far as Jesus is concerned he accepted but asked that they stop sinning there is actually a difference...

But then why does religion have any place in this? I'd personally like to see a non-biased scientific survey done, yet none seem to exist with out some right or left leaning. I like facts and statistics without religion.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Sheye

LGBTQ communities do not cover up how they feel, that is what they stand for...being who they want to be even in the eye of scrutiny from their peers in their community.

Let gays be gay and let trans be trans...with the same rights as us straights.

And please let the parents of these children be loving and accepting.

any parent who tries to hide or force the child to be what they do NOT want to be is a form of abuse. Its very sad actually.


A little about living a lie from a regretful transgender..




In fact, there even is a website entitled SexChangeRegret.com, which features the stories of people such as Finch. Another such individual is Matthew Attonley, 30, who underwent genital mutilation seven years ago and had since been living under the name “Chelsea” Attonley, but now wants to de-transition. The Daily Mail quoted him as saying last month: It is exhausting putting on make-up and wearing heels all the time. Even then I don't feel I look like a proper woman. I suffered from depression and anxiety as a result of the hormones too. I have realised it would be easier to stop fighting the way I look naturally and accept that I was born a man physically. And given that opponents of genital-mutilation surgery are often accused of trying to force people to live a lie, something Attonley said was quite interesting: “I have always longed to be a woman, but no amount of surgery can give me an actual female body and I feel like I am living a lie,” reports the Mail.




as i said before, dont believe everything you read on the internet



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

It was directed at knowledgehunter.

Anyway you said that parents should encourage their transgender children to like their own biological sex. What is your suggestion if the transgender children persist in expressing their gender identity?


I think through very long chats , questions with honest answers... a child would not persist .

I make a lot of sense when talking to children ...and they understand wisdom better than many adults.
edit on 18-7-2017 by Sheye because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Sheye

LGBTQ communities do not cover up how they feel, that is what they stand for...being who they want to be even in the eye of scrutiny from their peers in their community.

Let gays be gay and let trans be trans...with the same rights as us straights.

And please let the parents of these children be loving and accepting.

any parent who tries to hide or force the child to be what they do NOT want to be is a form of abuse. Its very sad actually.


A little about living a lie from a regretful transgender..




In fact, there even is a website entitled SexChangeRegret.com, which features the stories of people such as Finch. Another such individual is Matthew Attonley, 30, who underwent genital mutilation seven years ago and had since been living under the name “Chelsea” Attonley, but now wants to de-transition. The Daily Mail quoted him as saying last month: It is exhausting putting on make-up and wearing heels all the time. Even then I don't feel I look like a proper woman. I suffered from depression and anxiety as a result of the hormones too. I have realised it would be easier to stop fighting the way I look naturally and accept that I was born a man physically. And given that opponents of genital-mutilation surgery are often accused of trying to force people to live a lie, something Attonley said was quite interesting: “I have always longed to be a woman, but no amount of surgery can give me an actual female body and I feel like I am living a lie,” reports the Mail.




as i said before, dont believe everything you read on the internet

The article is from Daily Mail.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

It was directed at knowledgehunter.

Anyway you said that parents should encourage their transgender children to like their own biological sex. What is your suggestion if the transgender children persist in expressing their gender identity?


I think through very long chats , questions with honest answers a child would not persist .

I make a lot of sense when talking to children ...and they understand wisdom better than many adults.

And if they persist, then what?


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posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: abeverage

originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: Sheye

Also the article mentions God.

Except for, say, a guy who had sex-change surgery and now would like to have his penis back. (The one God gave him.)

Sorry it is bias right wing fake news.
I'm out I suggest doing what Jesus would do and love and accept folk.


So anyone who is Transgender, Gay, Bisexual, Non-sexual, Non-binary etc...cannot believe in God? Also they are automatically liberal?

And as far as Jesus is concerned he accepted but asked that they stop sinning there is actually a difference...

But then why does religion have any place in this? I'd personally like to see a non-biased scientific survey done, yet none seem to exist with out some right or left leaning. I like facts and statistics without religion.

He never suggested that they cannot believe in god. His point is that the articles are based on the Bible. Would you trust articles that are based on Islamic beliefs?



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

It was directed at knowledgehunter.

Anyway you said that parents should encourage their transgender children to like their own biological sex. What is your suggestion if the transgender children persist in expressing their gender identity?


I think through very long chats , questions with honest answers a child would not persist .

I make a lot of sense when talking to children ...and they understand wisdom better than many adults.

And if they persist, then what?


They wouldn't ... the talks would be enough ,along with much prayer of course .😁



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

It was directed at knowledgehunter.

Anyway you said that parents should encourage their transgender children to like their own biological sex. What is your suggestion if the transgender children persist in expressing their gender identity?


I think through very long chats , questions with honest answers a child would not persist .

I make a lot of sense when talking to children ...and they understand wisdom better than many adults.

And if they persist, then what?


They wouldn't ... the talks would be enough ,along with much prayer of course .😁

You're avoiding the question.



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: Kalixi

"Reversal surgery" makes it sound so clean and easy. I can't imagine the reversal surgery bringing the patient even close to how they were before after significant mutilation. If they are depressed because of the surgery, I'd think they would remain depressed even after the "reversal" because they are still probably physically very different and/or messed up..
edit on 18-7-2017 by ionaHarrison because: typo



posted on Jul, 18 2017 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

It was directed at knowledgehunter.

Anyway you said that parents should encourage their transgender children to like their own biological sex. What is your suggestion if the transgender children persist in expressing their gender identity?


I think through very long chats , questions with honest answers a child would not persist .



lofl, so basically long chats and questions until the child gives up and decides to just be brainwashed and miserable they will then stop persisting?

OMG, maybe you ARE a monster.

That is why distress exist. And depression.



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