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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth
Best god ever! I'm her high priest and chief of flinging the sacred poop.
originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth
Someone made a thread about it once I will send you the link later funny thread.
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: Abysha
My question is why? Why do you insist that the authority and consensus of the actual subject matter experts are wrong and that your non-expert sources are correct?
Because I disagree with what this world views as authority on this subject.
I have done some praying on this issue and I keep getting the same answer which I won't discuss on this thread.
So, just like the Mormons, you're saying you prayed and you literally had a conversation with god..and he gave you the answers?
Not that it would be substantial...AT ALL...I find it convenient you won't share God's remarks on the matter
Because who could peer-review God, amirite?
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: Abysha
My question is why? Why do you insist that the authority and consensus of the actual subject matter experts are wrong and that your non-expert sources are correct?
Because I disagree with what this world views as authority on this subject.
I have done some praying on this issue and I keep getting the same answer which I won't discuss on this thread.
So, just like the Mormons, you're saying you prayed and you literally had a conversation with god..and he gave you the answers?
Not that it would be substantial...AT ALL...I find it convenient you won't share God's remarks on the matter
Because who could peer-review God, amirite?
You're twisting my words in a mean spirited way again.. but that is no surprise.
God has many ways of communicating through His Holy Spirit... and thats for another thread.
This one is dealing with sex change regrets and why they occur.
Some just cannot accept their new gender as hoped, and have deep regrets.
I have done some praying on this issue and I keep getting the same answer which I won't discuss on this thread.
The media cover-up of regret and suicides isn’t a new phenomenon; it was in play 36 years ago. In 1979 Dr. Charles Ihlenfeld, who worked alongside the famous Dr. Harry Benjamin for six years administering hormone therapy to some 500 transgenders, spoke to an audience in New York about his experience: “There is too much unhappiness among people who have had the surgery. Too many of them end as suicides.”
The unhappiness continues. Last month, Jenner used the occasion of accepting the ESPY award for courage to tell the world that 41 percent of transgenders attempt suicide. We can debate all day long the various reasons why trans-people have regret and attempt suicide because the reasons are many and diverse. But no debate is needed in the face of the evidence that, for some, changing genders causes unhappiness and ends in suicide.
originally posted by: Sheye
thefederalist.com...
The media cover-up of regret and suicides isn’t a new phenomenon; it was in play 36 years ago. In 1979 Dr. Charles Ihlenfeld, who worked alongside the famous Dr. Harry Benjamin for six years administering hormone therapy to some 500 transgenders, spoke to an audience in New York about his experience: “There is too much unhappiness among people who have had the surgery. Too many of them end as suicides.”
The unhappiness continues. Last month, Jenner used the occasion of accepting the ESPY award for courage to tell the world that 41 percent of transgenders attempt suicide. We can debate all day long the various reasons why trans-people have regret and attempt suicide because the reasons are many and diverse. But no debate is needed in the face of the evidence that, for some, changing genders causes unhappiness and ends in suicide.
originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth
I do not hear God's voice 😏.. just feel His Spirit.
originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth
I think it's clear enough to those who understand how the Holy Spirit works through prayer...those that don't... well .. no type of explaining will help... but to be clear.. I do not hear God's voice 😏.. just feel His Spirit.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye
I would take Walt Heyer's words with a grain of salt.
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth
I think it's clear enough to those who understand how the Holy Spirit works through prayer...those that don't... well .. no type of explaining will help... but to be clear.. I do not hear God's voice 😏.. just feel His Spirit.
Disregard my statement above pertaining to you ignoring my question because you answered ha.
So, for further clarification...
Do you believe when you 'felt his spirit' after you prayed..that he somehow answered you?
And if yes, what is this answer that you said you keep arriving at?
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye
I would take Walt Heyer's words with a grain of salt.
I take a lot of peoples words with a grain of salt .. 😏
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth
I think it's clear enough to those who understand how the Holy Spirit works through prayer...those that don't... well .. no type of explaining will help... but to be clear.. I do not hear God's voice 😏.. just feel His Spirit.
Disregard my statement above pertaining to you ignoring my question because you answered ha.
So, for further clarification...
Do you believe when you 'felt his spirit' after you prayed..that he somehow answered you?
And if yes, what is this answer that you said you keep arriving at?
There you go again, incessantly asking a question that I already answered.
You don't care for the answer.. too bad.
It's not for discussion on this thread... so quit demanding like you own this thread.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye
I would take Walt Heyer's words with a grain of salt.
I take a lot of peoples words with a grain of salt .. 😏
It's commendable that he wants to help other transgender people in need.
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye
I would take Walt Heyer's words with a grain of salt.
I take a lot of peoples words with a grain of salt .. 😏
It's commendable that he wants to help other transgender people in need.
Yes , it is 🙂
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth
I think it's clear enough to those who understand how the Holy Spirit works through prayer...those that don't... well .. no type of explaining will help... but to be clear.. I do not hear God's voice 😏.. just feel His Spirit.
Disregard my statement above pertaining to you ignoring my question because you answered ha.
So, for further clarification...
Do you believe when you 'felt his spirit' after you prayed..that he somehow answered you?
And if yes, what is this answer that you said you keep arriving at?
There you go again, incessantly asking a question that I already answered.
You don't care for the answer.. too bad.
It's not for discussion on this thread... so quit demanding like you own this thread.
I was legitimately asking a serious question to better understand where you were coming from. It's called an open and honest discussion. You keep ignoring questions and withholding information. I was just asking questions. Your post above further makes you look dishonest.
I'm not demanding anything. I'm asking questions for clarification on your stance within a thread YOU created.
How childish are you? You keep being dishonest. You keep playing victim OUT OF NOWHERE when you're merely asked questions. And now you're trying to be all "You're not the boss here! You don't own the thread, nananabobo!"
How insecure are you that you cannot even clarify or answer a question even when it is in regards to YOUR OWN PERSONAL beliefs.
Hahaha. Woooooooow.
Where's a slow, dramatic clap when you need one, lol.
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: Sheye
originally posted by: ReyaPhemhurth
originally posted by: Sheye
a reply to: ReyaPhemhurth
I think it's clear enough to those who understand how the Holy Spirit works through prayer...those that don't... well .. no type of explaining will help... but to be clear.. I do not hear God's voice 😏.. just feel His Spirit.
Disregard my statement above pertaining to you ignoring my question because you answered ha.
So, for further clarification...
Do you believe when you 'felt his spirit' after you prayed..that he somehow answered you?
And if yes, what is this answer that you said you keep arriving at?
There you go again, incessantly asking a question that I already answered.
You don't care for the answer.. too bad.
It's not for discussion on this thread... so quit demanding like you own this thread.
I was legitimately asking a serious question to better understand where you were coming from. It's called an open and honest discussion. You keep ignoring questions and withholding information. I was just asking questions. Your post above further makes you look dishonest.
I'm not demanding anything. I'm asking questions for clarification on your stance within a thread YOU created.
How childish are you? You keep being dishonest. You keep playing victim OUT OF NOWHERE when you're merely asked questions. And now you're trying to be all "You're not the boss here! You don't own the thread, nananabobo!"
How insecure are you that you cannot even clarify or answer a question even when it is in regards to YOUR OWN PERSONAL beliefs.
Hahaha. Woooooooow.
Where's a slow, dramatic clap when you need one, lol.
There is no open and honest discussion with you... just sarcastic put downs and bullying.. demanding questions, which when answered .. the answer is not sufficient and more aggressive demands begin.
Honest and open discussion my a**... you are out to chop the tree down as you say.. and thats not going to happen.
Eventually this thread will die.. but if it helped just one parent , or one trans thinking of surgery to actually think about it more... it's done it's job.
Someone told me once ( as well as reading it in the OP) that LGBTQ community and its allies could get very nasty when crossed with info and attitude they don't care for.
I'll say Deaf Alien has been polite , though at times baiting , and I've appreciated a few others in how they choose to communicate.
Reya... you've shown me and others how you operate , and it's nothing to be proud of on forums such as these.
You coddle others from people who speak their honest feelings.. while you proceed to put down and bully with sarcasm.