The Combustion Engine

This method of transportation or at least, the idea, has been around since the mid 1800's from a practical standpoint. Even earlier ideas such as a hand crank on a rod were invented around the 3rd century and yet here we are, 2017, still burning fossil fuels to turn those wheels and everything else in the world.

I find it hard to believe in the 150 years we've had cars we haven't developed any other kind of propulsion beyond the inferior mechanical devices we use today. I know Tesla is out doing good things with his cars but they're still just a car. Has there been any research anywhere in to anti-gravity technology or magnetic propulsion? I feel like there probably will be but nothing civilians are privvy to. If anything like that was announced, lobbyists for fossil fuel would go crazy.

Do we have the technology already, suppressed to keep burning those fossil fuels? It's a thought that's crossed my mind on more than a few occasions and I believe we do. What's your thoughts on the matter?

a reply to: TheMadTitan

We do not get to have those things, we are commodities.

a reply to: TheMadTitan

I feel the same way about power lines. How is it in over 100 years we are still using the same technology to distribute electricity? In some places you can still find the same actual lines! /end rant.

On topic...kinda
Don't they have magnetic rail lines?
On the other hand, combustion engines have gotten exponentially more powerful and efficient. I had a 1974 Chevy Nova that got about 8 mpg. Now we have vehicles that can get well over 40mpg. I know they're not flying yet, but it's progress.

a reply to: watchitburn

The GM Trolley Conspiracy: What Really Happened

www.cbsnews.com...

We could in theory have a mag transit system but GM bought up all the trolley car systems so people had to buy cars and use (GM) buses. And they were found guilty and paid $5,000 in post WW II dollars. That showed'em.
This conspiracy is OLD. And we are being lied to, as Solve said, we are commodities.

Wonder how much it would cost to build mag lift systems to replace every road.
Definitely not practical.

Fossil fuels are very cheap and efficient to use. Until that changes cars will not change.

a reply to: TheMadTitan

Everything new and good is being roadblocked and ground to a halt. Apparently cars can drive on gasoline vapor alone, dramatically increasing MPG. Why is this not being widespread news? Too much money lost by the Big Oil.

Why we do not have flying vehicles left and right? Tight airspace control. Cannot fly wherever you want, people are scared you will collide with planes and buildings. With flying cars smuggling drugs from Mexico and illegal immigrants are going to be an even bigger problem. The wall we crave so much will not stop them anymore, we would need AA batteries all around our borders. Propaganda will cry that we should be super scared of ISIS simply dropping from the sky and suicide exploding on impact. Conspiracy theorists will start saying how one of the Suicide bombers fell out of the 747 on 911 and fell onto the Bulding 7 and made it collapse... i spend too much time on this forum.

a reply to: watchitburn

Yes the Mag lev or lift. That's the kind of tech i mean but on a much grander scale and without the need to lay a road with opposite magnetics. The vehicle should have, built in, some kind of anti gravity or magnetic propulsion system able to move it in all 3 directions.

The world spends trillions, i would imagine, on rockets to blast into orbit when they should pool all that into alternative propulsion so we can get off and depopulate earth and populate the solar system.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: TheMadTitan

I feel the same way about power lines. How is it in over 100 years we are still using the same technology to distribute electricity? In some places you can still find the same actual lines! /end rant.

On topic...kinda
Don't they have magnetic rail lines?
On the other hand, combustion engines have gotten exponentially more powerful and efficient. I had a 1974 Chevy Nova that got about 8 mpg. Now we have vehicles that can get well over 40mpg. I know they're not flying yet, but it's progress.

MagLev lines work by apply high voltage to underground electromagnets just where the train is. At the same time, an electrical connection allows the train to power it's own electromagnets so they repel each other and it levitates.

Some airports had this system. Birmingham airport had two shuttle lines from the departure areas to the main terminal.
The problem was that the electronics become obsolete very quickly and spare parts impossible to source. The cost of building a new MagLev system was too high, so they have moved back to cable-hauled systems.

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: watchitburn

The GM Trolley Conspiracy: What Really Happened

www.cbsnews.com...

We could in theory have a mag transit system but GM bought up all the trolley car systems so people had to buy cars and use (GM) buses. And they were found guilty and paid $5,000 in post WW II dollars. That showed'em.
This conspiracy is OLD. And we are being lied to, as Solve said, we are commodities.

Read All the link on the OP. (Past the "read more " button.)

VF

Of course, Nikola Tesla had a technology not only to levitate objects with electromagnetic power, but also to illuminate the whole Earth.
Nikola Tesla was and engineer with more than 1000 patents.
All his work is classified while you can find information on how to build atomic bombs in a public library.

So I presume that the technology exists and it is used by military and will be available in 20-50 years for the general public as well.

The gasoline ICE peaked in efficiency some two decades ago.

EPA regulations like to focus on how much pollution comes out of the tail pipe per second, but not per gallon. What you wind up with is engines that use 20-30% more fuel to cover the same distance, but release 50% less emissions per second at idle.

Of course, that extra fuel consumption means they're releasing more overall emissions per mile...

Biodiesel could be the solution, but it's been squashed like a bug in the wake of big money.
I can buy 80% biofuel that'll run in a diesel truck for 60% of what it costs to buy a gallon of diesel at the pump- and while it doesn't have quite as many miles per gallon in it, it's 80% sustainable.

a reply to: TheMadTitan

Until the oil barons have milked the last dollar from fossil fuels, and can find a way to profit from "alternative" sources of energy, there is no momentum towards invention of anything new.

I have said it myself many times, we are still basically primitive man, playing with fire. We have changed how we burn it, and the circumstances in which we burn it, but we're still wielding fire.

A long time ago, and I think there are still some today, there were "flywheel" buses. While not fast, they were reliable and didn't directly produce emissions.

flywheel buses

One would think we can have something similar but equally technologically advanced.

a reply to: TheMadTitan

The research and technology that would have long ago superseded the combustion engine has been suppressed and classified.

There is money and power in keeping us primitive but a small elite whom actually believe they are doing the right thing, that keeping us in this failed state keeps the economy of the world ticking over when the simple fact is that we should have moved onto other technology nearly a century ago.

One trick they use it to have these technology's classified under national security law's in the US and elsewhere.

Don't be surprised if one day it turn's out that most of the UFO's, disc shaped craft etc are actually of human manufacture and based very much on human technology, just not technology we have access to.

Don't know how valid these are but these are interesting.



And if these are correct then it is worth remembering that this was only one technology that has been suppressed by one inventor and there are hundred's, perhap's thousand's of other technology's that have also been suppressed by thousand's of other inventor's.

Europe want's to ban combustion engines in cars it seems by about 2030..

I heard most teslas work will never be released mainly due to no way to charge people

The bigest problem with electricity is the battery and where only starting to master that one

The amount of power it takes to levitate off the earths magnetic feild is insane

Flying cars would also need more power than normal cars ... i dont forsee antigravity making its way to anything anytime soon again massive amounts of power

We have ways to get the power needed but moving power is hard ... even long distance power lines have loss and limits ... so tapping some massive power source like geothermal is still limited to moveing power

And last we still use boiling water for most power even nuclear power just boils water

In the larger scale we could do more public transport with cool tech but realisticaly liquid fuel with really high enery to mass is our fuel tell we can create a device that can hold the same amount of electrical power equal in size to a gallon of gas ... yes there are other fules that can do this but remember ammount

1 gal of gas equals 33.4 kw gallons of gas in a barrle 42 1204.8 kw per barrle now the
Usa uses about 19 million barrels a day

Im not up to that last pice of math on my phone but to put ir simply the sheer amount of power needed to replace gas is almost unimaginable

33kw is alot of power a single 20a breaker can pull 2.4kwh

a reply to: markovian

The inventor of the lithium battery has invented a new one that is lightyears better. its still in testing currently.

a reply to: watchitburn

I had a 1974 Chevy Nova that got about 8 mpg. Now we have vehicles that can get well over 40mpg

1981 Toyota Corolla Tercel, 1.5 Liters, 4 Cylinders, 3 Speeds, Automatic Transmission, 2 Venturis Carburetor MPG City MPG: 29 MPG (U.S.)8 L/100km12 km/liter35 MPG (Imperial) Highway MPG: 35 MPG (U.S.)7 L/100km15 km/liter42 MPG (Imperial) Combined MPG: 32 MPG (U.S.)7 L/100km14 km/liter38 MPG (Imperial)

1981! 42 Hmpg! Less power back then. Technology has come a long way, just not in the directions it should take. People seem to be more into power.

a reply to: TheMadTitan


We have always had the technology to bypass fossil fuels, The early days of the Industrial revolution got going purely on Hydrology, Whole factories were situated where the drop of the water produced amazing amounts of energy .All those rivers running into the sea could still power whole cities. On the individual level you could tap in and charge the electric car, and power a home and what have you polluted? nothing! just used some water and put it back into the river. It just doesn't make another Oligarch rich and since they make the laws theirs some ordinance that says you have to put all your money back into the system, they will Tax air one day.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: TheMadTitan

The research and technology that would have long ago superseded the combustion engine has been suppressed and classified.

This saddens me to no end. So it would seem we have the technology but in order to keep making money and be at the top of the pyramid, they would suppress technology that would greatly benefit the human race just so the ruling few can keep on ruling. It makes me sick, why hasn't any tech like that, that's been invented or suppressed, not reached the internet? Why don't the inventors just throw their ideas on the internet for all to see before suppression begins?

My understanding is that the inventor would know theyv'e invented something amazing, then try and get it patented and that's where the suppression/suicides begins.

a reply to: anonentity
Hydroelectricity is probably the best way to generate power for a country with the resource. This is true controllable solar power.

But try to start such enormous project, in no time a horde of malevolent save the planet, tree hugger will derail the project citing mercury pollution, ecosystem destabilisation, or greenhouse effect gas emission.

As for the combustion engine, it is still in use today because despite it's horrible efficiency, it is a simple and robust machine. Easy to fabricate, to repair and to understand. Exotic new technology not often resist the harch test of the real world.

Electric motor have fantastic efficiency, but battery tech is not there, and the electronics required for the motor power drive is complex and fragile.

Personally I would bet on the hybrids.