New Study: Being Transgender Is Not A Mental Disorder

a reply to: birdonwire

What would you do If you child was transgender?.

originally posted by: birdonwire

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Now I'm going to die on a toilet.

Just like Elvis.

This world is tough enough without confusing our kids at an early age.
Not everyone is cut out to be parents I guess, you say you would be happy if your kid was a hard working loving person, and that is fine. We are home schooling our grand daughter so that she turns out to be hard working, loving and not mentally ill. I hope your children do not turn out mentally ill, but if they do, you will still love them as you are their parent. If they do, you must ask yourself if you could have contributed by keeping your head in the sand and not being vigilant and protecting them from a society gone mad.

The title of this thread is wrong, transgender is still a mental condition according to the WHO and DSM 5.

Since some folks are handing out awards so easy on this thread , I feel compelled to give you one birdonawire.

You are the chosen recipient of the " grandpa of the year " award . Your granddaughter is blessed to have loving grandparents who want to protect her innocence and childhood in such impressional years .

originally posted by: birdonwire

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: birdonwire

No. The DSM 5 doesn't say that.

It's not a mental disorder in the DSM 5?
Prove it.

psychcentral.com...
www.nhs.uk...
GID has been changed to gender dysphoria since DSM-IV.
The emphasis is on distress, not mental disorder.

a reply to: Sheye

What is your solution to children with gender dysphoria?

a reply to: DBCowboy

You're right, no one is forcing them to identify as transgender.

You're missing the point, it does not matter if I or anyone agrees with it.

I have the freedom to disagree, and they have the freedom to self express however they want.

BUT, they are taking away freedom from OTHER INDIVIDUALS through COMPELLED SPEECH.
That is thought policing. That is trying to mandate opinion. You can not mandate that someone else give up their opinion, which is based on biological facts so hardly an opinion, for the sake of someones feeling and subjective identity.

The problem exists on a fundamental level. They can exist. They can self identify however the hell they please. They can NOT impose their delusional self ascribed gender to be acknowledged by the rest of society. That is compelled speech. That is Orwellian. That is not a free society. That is government regulation of peoples opinions and speech, or you know, fascism.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

There is no emphasis on distress.

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder in the DSM V.

a reply to: Jupiters

That is pretty odd since you have been posting here speaking against their "delusion".
If you were forced or "compelled" then you wouldn't be able to speak about it here.

originally posted by: birdonwire
a reply to: Deaf Alien

There is no emphasis on distress.

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder in the DSM V.

LOL.

originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: birdonwire

What would you do If you child was transgender?.

Simple. I'd tell my kid "prove it."

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Sheye

What is your solution to children with gender dysphoria?

What is my solution to children who are actually confused about wanting to be another sex? Talking.. asking tons of questions.. and hopefully with the answers , I can dole out appropriate amount of wisdom.

Much like I asked RainbowPhoenix about her self discovery story at age 4 . I found ...what I perceived as facts .. missing in her story.. and she still hasn't addressed that post to my knowledge.

Also remember it is " trendy " to be LGTBQ ... and kids will go to great lengths at times just to be considered cool.

a reply to: Jupiters

On that we agree.

People don't have to like gays/transgendered. Hell, people don't have to like white folks or black.

You don't have to accept anything.

But you have to accept the fact that people, different in sexual identity, different in skin color, different in religions, different in political ideologies exist.

That they have just as much rights as anyone else.

I'm not gay.
I'm not transgendered.
I hate olives.


But I will not deny gay, transgendered, rights and freedoms, nor will I deny the eating of olives.

A persons choice to live their life as they want has NO impact on how I live mine.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

As I said in a previous post, legislatively - compelled speech does not exist, yet, in the U.S.

But, there are groups of postmodern leftists that advocate such. I am advocating against leftists ideologies and the extension of fascism that the ideologues propagate.
The regressive left as a whole.

a reply to: birdonwire

DSM-5 aims to avoid stigma and ensure clinical care for individuals who see and feel themselves to be a
different gender than their assigned gender. It replaces the diagnostic name “gender identity disorder”
with “gender dysphoria,” as well as makes other important clarifications in the criteria. It is important
to note that gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dys-
phoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition.

That is right out of DSM-5.
Don't cry. It's ok.

a reply to: Sheye

That isn't much of an answer. You are dancing around my question. At least you got one thing correct: talk to them and figure out how to deal with it. I'm sure you won't force them to be who they are not.
What part of her story hasn't she addressed yet? Talking about porn?

originally posted by: Jupiters
a reply to: Deaf Alien

As I said in a previous post, legislatively - compelled speech does not exist, yet, in the U.S.

But, there are groups of postmodern leftists that advocate such. I am advocating against leftists ideologies and the extension of fascism that the ideologues propagate.
The regressive left as a whole.

Talking about nutty SJWs on social media? Just ignore them. Simple. And passing laws compelling people to shut up is against the First Amendment.

a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

I think both you and the OP ed author misunderstood the study...

Nowhere in the actual study linked does it make the claim in your titles...

a reply to: DBCowboy

On a fundamental level I agree.

I would not deny them or anyone their right to anything.

And so, me, identifying people based on an on objective biological level, instead of a postmodernist subjective level that disagrees with biology, is not in violation of their rights.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Curious why the term transvestite is no longer used?

originally posted by: birdonwire
a reply to: Deaf Alien

Curious why the term transvestite is no longer used?

Because it isn't a mental disorder?

a reply to: Deaf Alien

I wish it was just online SJW's

I deal with this daily in UNI, all of my classes pertaining to behavioral neuroscience and etc has had this topic brought up.
I have been asked to leave 3 classes for debating from SCIENCE.
You'd think in extensive biology courses they would be more open to the idea of biological facts.