President Trump Wins – G20 Concedes on Climate Treaty and Trade Provisions

a reply to: Damiel

What a ridiculous post.

Here, watch Macron cozying up to Trump at the G20.



Trump is not an isolationist and you know it but because some lefty crap you've read said he is, you're just echoing it here.

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: xuenchen

Isn't it obvious by now that Trump is a very intelligent and calculated man?

He absolutely knows what he's doing.

They don't want to believe that. Trumps success makes them question everything they thought they knew. They would rather believe he had they world given to him and he wears red trucker hats with $20,000 dollar suits because he thinks it looks good.
The media and academia wouldn't lie to them

a reply to: Damiel


My view of it is these multi-national organizations, including the G-20, is perceived by many in the U.S. to be detrimental to U.S. interests.

The list is long, if not distinguished.

As any major fight with the U.S. would hurt the remaining members, economically, as much as the U.S., they have acknowledged the new U.S. position. A pragmatic choice.

A win for the U.S.? Absolutely! A big win.


Hopefully, only the beginning.....

President Trump Wins – G20 Concedes on Climate Treaty and Trade Provisions

Hm, do you mean the same G20 that i saw and heard of?

The G20 where Trump, the former USA, was isolating itself more because of climate treaty? Guess that´s fake news, isn´t it? And where the only one, that wants to act like his idol Trump)or is it the other way around?), is Erdolf the wannabe Sultan from the Bosporus.

Something a nation that thinks it was great once, and will become great again, has to be proud of, if little wannabe Hitlers like Erdolf copy your "policy"? Btw, Erdolf is doing this just to annoy "Germany", the german government, Merkel, and not because he thinks it is a good idea and that Trump, the former US government is soooo clever.

It looks more that two nations that go down, Turkey faster than the former US, seek solidarity with each other. Since 1-2 months, we get bombed with Turkey TV ads. They need to do advertisement now everywhere, because nobody wants to go for vacations to Turkey anymore, the tourism industry is completely down there. Now they have to show us Podolski, Wesley Snider, the Vodafone Ceo of Turkey etc, greeting from Turkey and telling us, why Turkey is sooooo nice and good for investors and tourists. Before Erdolfs "Machtergreifung" Turkey didn´t need that, people wanted to go there, wanted to invest there, many german people even emigrated to Turkey when they retired. And now, after Erdolf´s megalomania, after his "Reichstagsbrand"?

Can´t eat that much that i want to vomit, after i managed to stop laughing. These ads are two or three minutes long(at least felt, didn´t stop the time), run 24hrs, one at least every hour, on every channel, as it seems. We all know what TV ads cost, at certain times of a day. Man, now even the germans of turkish origin rather go to Mallorca than to Turkey, for their vacations.

And if you think that this is a win situationfor the former USA, that only 18 of 20(only looking at the G20) are against your policy, because little wannabe Hitler Erdolf the "Great" decided to kiss Trumps back after the G20 ended(told you about Erdolfs real reasons for this before), otherwise it would be 19 vs the former USA, then i have one question:
If you lose a football game by 18-2, will anybody believe you that you won? Anybody outside of that rightwinger/Trumpists echo chamber?

Outside of that echo chamber it looks like this:
The sane world goes on and at least acts if it wants to try to save the environment. And thinks:
Let the cowboys do whatever they want(it doesn´t make sense to tell the mentally ill that they are mentally ill, they will never ever believe you, they will think that they are the only ones that are right and everybody else is mentally ill), till they have a serious government again, and a POTUS instead of a little ignorant and egoistic child with character weaknesses in a fat mans body. Give them some crumbles so that they can sell their failings as wins to their blind followers of around 60m+ former US citizens, the only ones that will believe it and celebrate everything as a "tremendous" win of a deal, that for sure makes america great again.

Really, step some hours out of your pro Trump echo chamber and let you sprinkle by the reality a bit. At least one or two hours a day. Maybe then you will realize why the whole world outside of this echo chamber is laughing about Trump "USA". If you stay only in that echo chamber, you will think that you and the people around you are the only ones that are right and the rest is fake news, conspiracy theories, "libtards" lies, "lefties" propaganda.

In the former USA there are around 60m+ rightwing Trumpists. Then you have those "modern and civilized, democratic" miniature states in eastern europe, those with rightwinger governments and the "need" for revenge on russia, like Hungary, Slovakia, Ukraine, ect, ect. And like Poland. Where they gathered polish Trumpists from all over Poland(even there they had to do this) by busses, to put them in front of the cameras. Which cheer to Trump, celebrate him and his actions, his words, whatever. Exactly ike in the "good old USSR days". So Trump has some propaganda pictures for his supporters echo chamber, where people celebrate him, before he arrives in the sane part of the world, where the people protest him, laugh about him or just don´t care about him and the former USA anymore.

And now you have some new allies like wonderful Turkey under freedom loving Erdolf(ok, you needed and used turkey for a long time now, because of geostrategic reasons). Right now your best friends and partners, that act as if they would take the Trump "USA" serious, are the "axis of the good", like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, all those vengeful but miniature rightwinger controlled states of eastern europe, that want to become slaves of the NATO and the former US, just to take on revenge to russia... and who else?

If somebody has to surround himself with such "new friends", the worlds bullies and bad boys that are only nice because they want something from you, and tries to sell that as a "tremendous" win to the whole former US population, one has to live in the rightwing Trumpists echo chamber and never leave it, to believe that whole propaganda stuff you are programmed with in that echo chamber.

I bet people that are the loudest Trumpists now will have to shame in a couple of years, when their kids or grandchildren ask them:

And what did you do at that time, to try to stop that unbelievable insanity?
That was, ridiculously enough, sold to you as a tool to MAGA, MAGA, MAGA?

Maybe they will say:
But i know, first they just came for the terrorists, but you were no terrorist, right?

Just think one minute about this:
If you obvisiously rightwinger Trumpists are only around 60m+ in the former USA, you are even there the minority. And if you add your best friends and partners(those "nice guys"), that act as if they would still take you serious(you means Trumpists, rightwingers, former US "government", not the whole US population!!!), in contrast to the rest of the world, you are the waaay bigger minority.
That must have a reason! Is the almost complete world population stupid, insane, lunatic, and you little minority on this earth are the only ones that are illuminated, gifted with the only wisdom and the only truth on earth?

Is it your echo chamber, that you obvisiously never leave?

Trump won nothing, he just got some crumbles as a gift, to sell them as a "great" win to his blind followers.

a reply to: DerBeobachter


Bottom line? The U.S. has always been a 'minority'. In the present circumstances, it looks the preferable choice.

So we on the 'right' acknowledge your vent. Hope you feel better soon. Otherwise? Deal with it.

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Some of Trumps most ardent supporters here on ATS aren't
Americans at all . They are Chinese and Russian paid trolls pushing state sponsored propaganda on the unwitting .

a reply to: TREESNAKE1111

О чем ты говоришь? Существует не Российская пропаганда здесь!

originally posted by: oddnutz
a reply to: TREESNAKE1111

О чем ты говоришь? Существует не Российская пропаганда здесь!

Translation . What are you talking about? There is no Russian propaganda here!

Very witty . I like witty .

CNN has a different view. Surprised?

The lonely US role at the G20 summit, a forum of the world's most powerful economies that Washington once dominated, is exactly consistent with what Trump sees as his mandate for a nationalistic, "America first" foreign policy.

www.cnn.com...

I don't know about you but if he is doing the opposite of what we have always been doing..... Good.

In another article: Trump got played -

And set a trap is exactly what he just did.

The Russians telegraphed in advance of the meeting that their agenda was to 1) publicly mend the relationship, 2) gain a better understanding of US policy, and 3) discuss joint concerns over terrorism. They scored on all three.

www.cnn.com...

Oh no! Russia wants to fix relations and fix relations they did! Shame on Trump to work together with the other major power inside Syria and the ME!

Shame shame, we all know your name. It is President Trump.

CNN, what a rag.

a reply to: xuenchen

What's it like living under a bridge?

What do you think he actually won, do you think the rest of the world suddenly became equally stupid and agreed that mankind is not accelerating climate change? Or do you mean the big baby continued acting like a petulant child?

Not sure why you would expect anything other than crap from your linked source, but if it keeps you happy.

a reply to: xuenchen

I wouldnt exactly say he "won". He was very very very awkward. I tried to watch it then I was like...why is he using this platform to reaffirm to himself what he has done so far while he is in office and bash the media. It was also very embarrassing when he brought up how the Polish americans came and supported him during the election.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

www.vox.com...

What other world leaders have said about trump...www.bbc.com...

to me and many other non trump enthusiasts which is most of the world...he is very awkward.

Oh God.
Rolls eyes.
The world is laughing at us again. This trip was a total failure.
All those countries and he doesn't start a talk about what to do about Korea?
No spend hours with the commie spy instead. Agree that they didn't hack the election and then... from a cyber security pact with the damn crooks.
Hey call that burglar back so we can discuss easier ways for him to break in and maybe give him a map to where we keep the best stuff. That's the way to prevent breakins right?

Only the trumpsters think this was a successful trip. Everyone else is just shaking their heads wondering WTF he's really up to.

a reply to: veracity

It was embarrassing when he trashed the intelligence community again.
(some folks never learn) and then he bashed Obama again and he only makes himself look bad when he does that.
No one likes people who make excuses for failure or blame others for their short comings.
And that's not just America. Most cultures look at something like that as a character flaw.
He's awkward and he was not warmly received. I noticed in crowds with the other attendees that people were walking past and looking him up and down and staring at him and I couldn't help but wonder what they were thinking. They sure wanted to get a closer look. I did not see faces of approval. Mostly curious some looked snearingly and their thoughts were pretty easy to read.

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Marcron threw him a bone.

a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

What successes. Bankrupt casinos, failed endeavors, quashed building projects, law suits by the hundreds?

a reply to: Sillyolme

it is such a turn off and says alot about the person when you use your time to bash anyone during a time like that. Obama, the media, intelligence community...

Even if, IF these accusations were proven true (which they are not, just his POV)...it is still embarrassing. Its very negative and a great turn-off.

I can understand how a first rate, ignorant thinker (just as d.trump) would not understand this.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
What exactly was conceded?

Was it that Merkel will continue take up the banner of traditional Western leadership while the US goes it alone because that is what happened.

..sponsored by CNN.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
What exactly was conceded?

Was it that Merkel will continue take up the banner of traditional Western leadership while the US goes it alone because that is what happened.

In a final statement agreed by all 20 economies, 19 members including Russia, China and the European Union acknowledged Trump’s decision to go his own way on taking the US out of the 2015 Paris climate accord.

YEAH! Donald Trump won the concession of 19 countries that he is withdrawing the US from the 2015 Paris Accord!

LOL So much winning!

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

(((((((Echo, echo, echo echo echo )))))))