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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: underwerks
and how many people would never even be prescribed opiates if MJ was a legit, legal option?
even for minor #. get a tooth pulled? no need for a script for 10 percocet. go get some cbd candy
originally posted by: underwerks
The idea of foaming at the mouth drug users who have no control over themselves is a drug war myth, and one anyone with any actual experience can recognize as BS.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TinySickTears
I am not focused on those who can function.
I am focused on those who won't be able to. They're the ones we need to plan for because like it or not, they *will* exist and quite possibly in greater numbers than you think.
Any plan to legalize has to take that into account along with the unpleasant side effects of the harder drugs. How does society deal with the psychotic meth head, for example? Sure, it was legal for him to use, but now he's on a real bad trip and danger to himself and everyone around him. Is it legal for someone with a firearm to shoot him?
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: underwerks
I live in a city that's pretty much meth central.
Meth and opiates are two different animals.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: underwerks
So he's psychotic and out of control because he's on an illicit substance. Right now, he goes into jail for that.
What happens when the substance is legal? Do we have to throw him in the drunk tank?
What happens to the cops who try to arrest him if something happens on the arrest and he dies?
originally posted by: underwerks
A lot of times it's not the amphetamine that makes the person go sideways but the adulterants that leach into because it's being made illegally in the woods behind a barn somewhere.
Which once again, wouldn't be as big an issue if everyone had a substance made in a clean lab.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: underwerks
So he's psychotic and out of control because he's on an illicit substance. Right now, he goes into jail for that.
What happens when the substance is legal? Do we have to throw him in the drunk tank?
What happens to the cops who try to arrest him if something happens on the arrest and he dies?
originally posted by: TinySickTears
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: underwerks
So he's psychotic and out of control because he's on an illicit substance. Right now, he goes into jail for that.
What happens when the substance is legal? Do we have to throw him in the drunk tank?
What happens to the cops who try to arrest him if something happens on the arrest and he dies?
i dont get the point you are trying to make
booze is legal now
is it legal to drink a gallon of vodka and be out in public going all psycotic?
what do they do with those people?
i and others have been saying for a while now to treat it like you would alcohol. it is legal but taxed and regulated.
being under the influence of alcohol does not give you a pass to go break laws.
why do you think being under the influence of drugs would
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: kelbtalfenek
the revenue stream on taxes alone from legal MJ should be enough to warrant full legalization.
all the # we dont have money for now..pick your poison.
schools. roads. the military. etc
well legalize MJ and there is your money for all that #
not only money earned in taxes from it but money saved by not going after people for it
even at a traffic stop. tail light is out. thats PC. search the person. find an 8th
now they call the dogs. the cop sits and waits. the other cops show up. the time goes by.
that is money spent chasing some bull# and time those cops are not out doing something of actual value.
how many times a day does that situation happen in this country?
im sure its a lot
its heads out of asses time
this needs to happen
originally posted by: Willtell
First, the war on crime was started to curtail our rights.
Then the war on drugs was started to curtail more rights, like having as much money in the bank as you want without reporting it.
Then the war on terror to make things a living hell on earth was started to make the world a massive police state.
originally posted by: wantsome
I've been on both sides of the fence. When I did drugs I was pro legalization. It's been 20 years since I last did drugs. I've seen enough peoples lives damaged from drugs. The last thing we need in society is to condone drug use.