Donald Trump and the great JFK declassification

The FACT is, Oswald killed JFK.

There is nothing to be released that will change that.

a reply to: abe froman

Well, if you say so, then it must be true.

a reply to: audubon

Bush Snr is still alive so they cannot release the information
The idea behind it is that the people involved die before the incriminating stuff is released.

The JFK files will end up in Obama's library, along with the unmasking evidence.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

When Poppy Bush became CIA Director in the mid-1970s, one of the first things he did was call up the JFK assassination files for his personal inspection. I'm willing to bet there is nothing left in there that even mentions him or his pals.

I don't have my source to hand for this, so can't give you chapter and verse, but it was Kitty Kelley's biography of the Bushes, The Dynasty.

Poppy Bush was apparently forgetting what an intense bureaucracy his Agency was. Requests for central files are recorded in access logs, and in the 1990s a reporter called Dave Rob FOIA-ed the Agency and got hold of them, and Kelley used Rob's info in her book.

(Bush Snr had previously denied having any interest in the JFK files, obviously he didn't realise that access logs could be reached by FOI. Whoops!)

originally posted by: AkontaDarkpaw

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: audubon

We can generally accept that the Deep State - as in, the whole bowl of alphabet soup and then some - is trying to shuck itself free of Trump, and he's hanging on like a barnacle. It's engrossing, but why are they doing this?

Distraction.

Remember Obamas birth certificate? Whether Bush avoided the draft? Clinton and Monica, Hillarys server, all CT to enthrall the masses, keep them divided against one another, while they go on about conquering the world.

But what are we being distracted from?

Pole shift that leaves the world in total chaos?
Or more homogenization of the global income levels?
One or the other.

Why does everyone believe Trump is different? Because he made some speeches?

Look at the facts already; He has bombed Syria. Shot down Syrian planes. Made relations with Russia worsen. Has North Korea in a panic from constant military aggression. Is pushing Europe and China away.

I mean, I honestly doubt Killary would have "accomplished" so much in such a short time.

Honestly now, what promises has Trump even kept? And how many has he already broken?

How is he making America great again? Just count the money spent on the military aggression thus far... That alone could of been the start of making it great.

a reply to: TruthsSword

So agree. What has Trump done to deserve any praise? He's annoying the hell out of our allies and destroying and dividing the citizens with his constant tantrums. I guess that's his "distraction" from the reality of a nothing president.

As time marches on either he starts to unite the people and congress or just tell Melania and the kid to stay in Manhattan.

a reply to: audubon


IF vital clues to John Kennedy's assassination were hidden, haven't all of the key "players" retired, or died by now?

I watched the Putin interview a week ago and I was surprised by the JFK reference.

I'll look everything over again and comment later.

Interesting times indeed.

originally posted by: AkontaDarkpaw

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: audubon

We can generally accept that the Deep State - as in, the whole bowl of alphabet soup and then some - is trying to shuck itself free of Trump, and he's hanging on like a barnacle. It's engrossing, but why are they doing this?

Distraction.

Remember Obamas birth certificate? Whether Bush avoided the draft? Clinton and Monica, Hillarys server, all CT to enthrall the masses, keep them divided against one another, while they go on about conquering the world.

But what are we being distracted from?

The truth. Infotainment isn't really news, fake news isn't news. The Wizard of OZ behind the curtain pulling the levers on a loud smoke and fire machine is deceiving everyone.

a reply to: audubon

When Poppy Bush became CIA Director in the mid-1970s, one of the first things he did was call up the JFK assassination files for his personal inspection.

Thanks, did not know that...

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: audubon


IF vital clues to John Kennedy's assassination were hidden, haven't all of the key "players" retired, or died by now?

People at the helm may be retired, dead or replaced, but the mission is unchanged.

The missing 'vital clues', like Kennedys brain, the X-ray and autopsy photos and eyewitness testimony may be missing / buried, but the trails of breadcrumbs are still there for everyone to see...

Ever watch, JFK, The Smoking Gun?

originally posted by: abe froman
The FACT is, Oswald killed JFK.

There is nothing to be released that will change that.

That's really ignorant.

a reply to: audubon

The 'Deep State' has a name and always did:

Mount Weather.

Personally, yes of course JFK was assasinated by the 'deep state' and there has been a cover up. Will the release come October contain proof or the smoking GUNS? Doubtful. Anything pertaining to the truth will be blacked out, redacted as always.

Overall, i think the whole Trump administration and current media fanfare/chaos is simply a prelude to set in motions things to come. Think about it - currently Trump and his admin are being supported by the 'fringe, conspiracy theorists, free thinkers, opposittion,' et all. Things like fake news and the media targetting individuals making anti memes are being talked about in mass. Well say, laws are passed against fake news or limiting freedom of speech/anonynmity. All good for now, sites like ours will even praise it.

Well what happens when next presidency members and citizens like us here or at Reddit are in opposition to the future administration? These same precedents could easily be used to silence disidence and openly deem anything counter as fake news.

A mod here said it earlier and Ive been thinking about it all day - we are treading dangerous waters here. An entire can of worms might be opened that will silence any views against tptb in the future.

a reply to: Flesh699

The 100?? Cant wait for season 5!

Time to dust this one off...

So, looks like Trump has gone back on his pledge that everything will be released. The CIA and the rest of the gang have got him to allow some deletions - or at least, to recommend some deletions to him.

Suggestions for what price Trump is demanding from them in return? He doesn't change his mind for free. (Not suggesting it's financial, just that there will be some kind of bargain extracted for this.)

originally posted by: smurfy
The history channel, did a recent hit on the Cubans being responsible for killing JFK in a, 'it all makes sense' format, while it still entailed Oswald being involved.. A CIA man gone rogue....funny that.

It makes sense. The CIA (the Bushes) contacted the Mob, who contacted the Cubans, who knew they could wind Oswald up enough to do the job. Oh, and maybe the Department of Education and Bureau of Mines, too.

a reply to: audubon


Well it doesn't look like he's gone back on this :
Reuter s: JFK papers update