America's Rainforest

a reply to: SlapMonkey

The belief that only "libtards" care about protecting the environment is a load of crap that started in the 70s and has persisted via political hyperbole.

I spoke specifically about Santa Cruz liberals. Santa Cruz is very conservation minded. They aren't conservative in the political sense, any more than republicans are of, by and for the "public". The RePublicans aren't conservation minded, they love to exploit resources.

That stretch of forest is carefully guarded, unlike others further North that "conservative'" logging companies sought after for decades.

Did I just divide against you? Sorry bout that, even I have a little divisive sentiment left over from a past life.

Yes, wood is carbon sequestration, thanks be the designer.

a reply to: Butterfinger

Indigenous Nations have not been supplanted, the forests are still there.

More like wiped out, same as the forests.

Hawaii is also an occupied country.

originally posted by: Lolliek
reply to: intrptr

Thanks for the photo link. It's really quite sad. We have been poor stewards of this planet.

Hi Lolliek! Beautiful place to visit. One can drive for miles along tree lined roadways. Take your kids, teach them to be good stewards.

a reply to: intrptr

I work for an indigenous tribal nation, its sovereign and no debt, second highest employer in the state(the state is #1) and one of our 16 casinos is the largest in the US. We arent the only one.

"Supplanted", "wiped out", these are terms that dont reflect reality, and sound more alarmist and uninformed IMHO, no offense.

originally posted by: Butterfinger
a reply to: intrptr

I work for an indigenous tribal nation, its sovereign and no debt, second highest employer in the state(the state is #1) and one of our 16 casinos is the largest in the US. We arent the only one.

"Supplanted", "wiped out", these are terms that dont reflect reality, and sound more alarmist and uninformed IMHO, no offense.

You probably watched too many John Wayne movies, grew up on Cowboys and Indians, lol.

a reply to: intrptr

No, I grew up in Hawaii with an active distaste of my Oklahoma roots!

originally posted by: Butterfinger
a reply to: intrptr

No, I grew up in Hawaii with an active distaste of my Oklahoma roots!

Okay anyway, the western colonial expansion into the American continent by europeans supplanted the natives, mostly they were exterminated , "wiped out". Are you contesting that history?

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Butterfinger
a reply to: intrptr

No, I grew up in Hawaii with an active distaste of my Oklahoma roots!

Okay anyway, the western colonial expansion into the American continent by europeans supplanted the natives, mostly they were exterminated , "wiped out". Are you contesting that history?

Exterminated like we arent here anymore? I disagree with your verbage.

There was a native culling certainly, even massacres but there was no holocaust en masse or genocide. We are still here.

a reply to: esteay812

As always, your videos are appreciated. Especially if one is stuck on the Plateau
I wanted to also share this story with you that you likely have seen by now.
The video in the Sentinel link isn't the Alum trail where the gentleman died.
www.knoxnews.com...

A 47-year-old Nashville man died Saturday after suffering a cardiac arrest while hiking in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Phillip Basset Davenport was hiking down the park's Alum Cave Trail from Mount LeConte with a group of people Saturday, July 15. He suddenly passed out three miles from the trail head, park spokesperson Dana Soehn said Sunday. GSMNP rangers responded to a report of a man in cardiac arrest at about 9:59 a.m. July 15. Others in the hiking group administered CPR until medics arrived. Davenport died at 11:14 a.m., Soehn said. Davenport was with a group of 23 people who had spent Friday night at LeConte Lodge, Soehn said.

The Alum Cave IS the steepest and I'd venture a guess that he had just completed the portion at the bluff (cave) and it was too much for his heart, even with the stairs. I'd love to stay at the lodge, just once. I think I may send my request next month...and start saving for it now LOL.
Anyway, thanks again for the videos!