What use is gold in say an EMP strike?

originally posted by: InceyWincey
Again, keep your gold because I'll tell you to # off off if you want one of my hens.
I'm pleased you like your gold, but you can't eat it lol.

Why do you feel the need to post that opinion over and over. We get it but, the fact still remains that not everyone thinks like you, which makes your claim that gold will be worthless incorrect.

Is that so difficult to understand?

originally posted by: daskakik
Why do you feel the need to post that opinion over and over.

Because I started a thread and wanted interested mature conversation.

We get it but

Who is 'we' ?

, the fact still remains that not everyone thinks like you, which makes your claim that gold will be worthless incorrect.

What? 3 or so people disagree and that is the deciding factor? LMAO, try again.

Is that so difficult to understand?

Nope, understood completely, you are crying because you want your opinion to be right lol. Tragic but funny as #.

originally posted by: InceyWincey
Because I started a thread and wanted interested mature conversation.

Simple repeating the same thing over and over isn't quite what you say you wanted.

Who is 'we' ?

Anyone reading that you will not trade anything for gold. It is a simple enough idea that I'm sure anyone can understand.

What? 3 or so people disagree and that is the deciding factor? LMAO, try again.

Yes. You spoke in absolutes. Even 1 makes it false.

Nope, understood completely, you are crying because you want your opinion to be right lol. Tragic but funny as #.

Nobody is crying.

I'm pointing out that your opinion isn't universal, which should be obvious.

That is actually the mature conversation that you claim to want but somehow it doesn't seem like that is what you really want. Oh well.

a reply to: daskakik
Are you just trolling me?
Your arguments are poor.

originally posted by: InceyWincey
Are you just trolling me?
Your arguments are poor.

No they are not.

Logic dictates that if you say "nobody will want gold" and even 1 person wants it then your statement is false.

You have 3 in this thread and who knows how many in the real world.

Also there is nothing poor about arguing that not everyone thinks like you. Can you prove that this isn't true?

a reply to: InceyWincey

So you won't value gold over a hen, or water? Cool. Probably wise. However, there will certainly be people who will. Gold has value outside of monetary to the right people.

It doesn't take long to figure out what those values are, either. So it'll never be worthless.

In a scenario such as this one that you posit, it'll pay to know your market.

If I by some strange circumstance show up at your door, I won't use gold to barter, I'll use something else. That may not be the case at another's door.

Candles. Eggs. Plantings/Seeds. Chickens. Oxen (easier to work with than horses, or so I'm told.). Bullets/Powder. Arrows. Guns. Bows. Gold. Silver. Any metal actually.

Almost anything can be, and will be, used as barter. Knowing how to repair stuff will be amazingly salable, or being able to build/repair your chicken coop.


Uses of Gold.

As you can see, the uses to which gold can be put are many.

a reply to: seagull
I won't need your help repairing your chicken coop.
Carry on hoarding your gold though.

a reply to: InceyWincey

Where did I say I was "hoarding" gold? Please, point it out to me...

I do believe I said others may find it of use, and would accept it in trade. If that constitutes "hoarding", so be it.

Gold has uses, as I pointed out, that go beyond it merely being shiny.

Gold is used in medical procedures as it's hypoallergenic. Fillings and such.

Hoarding... Really.

a reply to: seagull

I didn't make the statement that you were hoarding gold, it was a suggestion based on the assumption you like your gold.
If you aren't a gold hoarder then I offer my apologies.
I'd # gold off though, food/water/medicine will be more useful to me in hunger situations.
Keep your gold which is useless to me.

a reply to: seagull

Seems to be part of the "hypothetical".

1. Solar flare kills all electronics all over the world.

2. Humanity goes back to the stone age instead of the mid 19th century, when we started using electricity.

3. The solar flare makes everyone think like InceyWincey and just hate gold or InceyWincey will have the only trading post in the world. (Hyperbole if isn't obvious)

4. Anyone caught will any amount of gold will be guilty of hoarding and will get no chickens or cans of tuna.

From real accounts of SHTF situations, the problem with gold is that people will kill you to get it.

So maybe a discrete deal with a farmer is necessary.

FerFal has a lot of good information, having been there and done all that.

ferfal.blogspot.com...

a reply to: daskakik

Mmmm...Tuna!! I'll give you a dozen candles for three cans of tuna!!

In a TEOTWAWKI situation, almost anything will be taken in trade. So it would behoove a wise trader/tinker to have as much of everything in his or her pack, or on his or her pack mule/beast, as possible.

Up to, and including a bit of gold. I'm sure a dentist somewhere would find it useful. Someone may be able to repair a generator, which gold wire would be, without a doubt, extremely useful.

Jewelry, because survival isn't always serious business. For good mental health, one needs to be able to have fun...and what's more fun than giving your significant other jewelry, a necklace.

originally posted by: daskakik
3. The solar flare makes everyone think like InceyWincey and just hate gold or InceyWincey will have the only trading post in the world.

Now you are being silly, please quote me to support your statements or retract your silly statement.

originally posted by: AutonomousMeatPuppet
the problem with gold is that people will kill you to get it.

That would imply that it has value and that doesn't fit with the hypothetical in the OP.

a reply to: AutonomousMeatPuppet

That is true enough. Discretion is advised. Very much agree there.

But, if they're going to attempt to kill you, notice I said attempt--after all I'm the second coming of RAMBO!!! Grrr!!! , they're probably going to come after you for your chickens, too.

a reply to: InceyWincey

Why did you snip the part in parentheses which states that it was hyperbole?

In case you didn't catch the meaning, you are not the only one who people will be able to trade with so who cares what you think you will trade for in a hypothetical.

a reply to: seagull

I think people have been overly influenced by the hollywood version of TEOTWAWKI.

a reply to: daskakik

Oh, that goes without saying.

Think New Orleans after the hurricane, and you'll about have it. Only over a much larger area.

I also happen to think that most people overestimate just how nasty other people will be. Yeah, there will be looters, 'cause morons will never ever die out, but most people will help their neighbors, and in return will be helped. They'll band together for mutual support.