The employment process today BLOWS and I'm about to lose it.

Such is the horror of the Babylonian money magic system; It is designed to drive you insane, make you hopeless.

It is designed to break you.

originally posted by: mblahnikluver

originally posted by: MissCoyote
Those "observations" should be illegal. Especially since its free labor.

Oh yea when I did he first two interviews and she said the next step was a 4 hour observation unpaid I had to bite my damn tongue! I was like are you kidding me? I think my resume clearly states I can handle this job! I mean I have worked in banking for two major banks. I could run circles around those chicks in the cash advance places. After the observation she said do you think you could do this? I said of course. She then said well we would love to have you and the next step would be an email job offer. I was thinking seriously don't people CALL anymore?! Oh then she made a comment about me wearing heels and how it would be hard to stand all day. I shut her down quickly. I wore heels all day at BOA and didn't sit. Heels are not an issue. I was thinking to myself wow these people have no idea what working for a bank it like especially BOA! I was the only damn teller for months and I had to count night drop and do massive McDonald's bags along with CTR's and huge coin orders ALL while helping people in line! It's called multitasking and it's a skill I am good at! I honestly prefer it lol

So we shall see! I have an interview today at 2pm with a credit union, one on Thursday (they called this morning, see FB for that haha) and a second one on Friday with another local bank. I swear one better hire me! I can handle a small bank. I laugh because they have like 3-4 tellers at these smaller banks. I have never worked with that many hahaha! I WAS the only teller so yea I can definitely handle the smaller banks. It's less stress and no corporate BS!

I see two problems with the story of the cash advance place. The lady recommended you not wear high heels. The correct thing to do in situation is say "OK" or "Yes ma'm" whichever is most appropriate.

You responding with the fact that you wore high heels at BOA and it wasn't a problem for you could be interpreted as:

1) Unable to take direction from direct supervisor/manager
2) Talks back
3) Think you know better than that person how to do their job

Now maybe it didn't come across that way, but it might have. This kind of thing is definitely something you want to edit out of yourself during an interview. I've hired more people than I've applied for jobs, and if I were the interviewer in this situation, I would have declined to offer you a job due to the first direction I gave you - no high heels - was met with resistance and refusal.

originally posted by: schuyler
If the attitude you display here comes through in the interview process, no one is going to hire you. Why should they? You've got attitude pouring out of your pores. That spells "bad hire' to anyone trying to fill a position. They are looking for people who do not cause more problems than they solve.

Seems like there are a lot of people on here that haven't experienced this...I was stuck in a crappy retail job for years, and then was unemployed for 6 months two years ago. I would spend HOURS filling out applications every night, filling out the exact same employment history, even though a resume was added. I did my best and personalized almost every freaking cover page. Some jobs even had tests to take...I remember taking a test for some big box retail establishment, resume added, full application filled out, then a test to take...an hour and a half it took to complete this monstrosity and I didn't even get so much as a "thanks but no thanks" email because most of the time the ads are fake or they are not hiring, or they are hiring within, or use a "bot" to screen applications that likely send yours straight to the garbage can. It took me months to land an ok job but luckily for me, I was trying to get a job with my county government and while it took two years I am in a decent job at the county. I look back at all I went through and really feel for those going through the hiring process today.

Settle down, your going to be fine. You've come a long way from where you started, if you were not a strong person, you would not be who you are now. We are all allowed to ask why sometimes. Be sure you negotiate in your interviews value yourself high, look them in the eyes, smile figure out ways to solve the concerns you think are the reasons, you cannot do something for the position you apply for. It's always the darkest hours when who we are reveals itself. Your strong, and those same strengths will get you want you want, they have before.

Good luck and good bye ats.

I had to make time to wish you luck old friend.

P.S DONT LET ANYONE TELL YOU, "YOU CANT". Prove them wrong like I have.

Why don't you try and get a job for something like i'm at Ace Hardware Retail Support Center. Their all over the U.S. They pay about $13/hr but you also get a production based incentive pay, which if you can hit high production numbers without errors you can hit an extra 200-350. Which is almost another paycheck in itself. Not only Ace Hardware, I know Publix Distribution Center does this same thing. I almost got that job, but unfortunately I was convicted under first offenders when i was 18 years old, So i feel your pain. Honestly though if you need work asap, temp services will be your best friend trust me. I've gotten some honestly sick jobs through them. Like tagging the different pieces of clothes for Army uniforms with little RFID chip stickers occasionally a gas mask yaknow lol, getting paid 17.50 + an extra 3.60/hr from the gubmint fringe benefit. Untaxable. Just words from the wise brother. If anything you can always take a one-day like 8-hr class for a forklift certification. A big hint, go for a Reach forklift truck training. Lifting pallets to the top of racks. Every Distribution center in America uses Reach trucks for this, like i was told when I was allowed on one. You can get a job pretty much anywhere if you can drive one. And maybe fudge your resume for a few months doing a few different skills give that little extra pazzaz if ya know what i mean. Employers start acting funny when you go unemployed for too long. GL brother best of luck with your career search!

And trust me, It always feels like rockiest bottom and then that one day hits and it's a complete 360. Just waiting for your moment man dont give up. For the little one!

Also Careerbuilder.com, upload your resume. And autoapply to dozens of jobs at one time. Hell, the last few years the jobs HAVE FOUND MY RESUME THERE! I haven't even had to apply to anything. Filling out alllllllll the info on applications over and over and over gets so monotonous it'll make you go crazy,

a reply to: mblahnikluver

Really sorry to hear about your troubles! Having worked for BofA (started when it was Nations Bank), I know what you mean there! Can't blame you at all for leaving. Terrible company, truly. Just terrible.

Looking for work these days is indeed a real hassle. Have you tried networking through sites like LinkedIn? Sometimes, you can make connections that way.

Can understand the single mom thing, too. Did that for a while, before marrying the hubby, and it's a real problem. Couldn't go to school, to get a better job, because of a lack of child care, and could barely afford that, paying my mother for it, at a very low rate! Even with family support, it's not easy, and family support isn't always all it's cracked up to be, either. Often, too, you can't even get any financial aid, if working at all, because they claim it's "too much money". Been there, done that! You have to work hours that allow time with the child, too, or you never see them, and that just doesn't work.

Try any sort of job. Hotels, working at a desk, you could easily do, if you managed a bank job. A cashier at a grocery store, even, and some of them always seem to need help. My older son works in one, and they are ALWAYS short-handed. Literally, always. Worth checking. Meanwhile, apply for some aid. You paid taxes, and have family that did, and you need something at this point. No shame in that at all.

Praying you get a break, soon. Hang in there!!

Just keep trying and don't take anything personal. There are so many people looking for jobs that its just not feasible for companies to start personal one-on-one relationships with applicants, or even call them back to tell them the position is filled if it gets filled. In the eyes of large companies you are just another name on paper, sadly enough.

I don't know what experience you have, but from the sounds of it it doesn't seem like you have ever been on the other end of the interview process, and actually had to deal with several applicants and go through several interviews. Its not a fun process for anyone, and its hard to remember everyone's names, and their back story and all that jazz. You kind of just go through the applicants and find the one that was the best out of them all. Knowing this, and seeing it from this perspective, you got to do something that makes you stand out. One thing I know makes things easier is when you are not desperate, and you come off like you don't even need the job, and they need you, not the other way around.

In the end, just keep applying and don't wait for call backs. You will get picked up sooner or later. Don't be shy to take advantage of unemployment benefits either.

a reply to: mblahnikluver

I am sorry about your sitution. I am not too many years away from being in the same boat. However, I may be able to help you with your tax situtation.

No tax organisation like the IRS or the ATO, in the entire western world has ever defined what income is in their Tax Act. use this to your advantage. Write to them in hard copy, yes hard copy and NOT email:

To the Head or Deputy of your countries tax organisation.

Dear sirs, I am attempting to complete my tax return for the xyz financial year. In order for me to complete my return I require you to provide me with a documented, official definition of 'income" under they xyz Tax Act.

In order to complete my return I also require you to furnish me with a detailed breakdown of all the VAT, GST or what ever the tax on goods and services is called in your country, so that I may correctly calculate whether I have a tax liability or a tax refund.

I await your provision of these documents
thank you
xyz.

I do not know whether or not you are required to complete an income tax declaration when you commence employment in your country or not but if you do, DO NOT write your name using ANY capital letters as this is your legal entity and it is not the flesh and blood verion of you. Write your name in all lower case, and write it (first name) of the family (last name) Better still dont complete the document at all. however you have to in order to get get or keep the job.

If they come after you, just keep following the line that you will happily complete your return when your receive the documented official defintion of the word 'income."

You will help yourself immenslely it you research what I have said

bestaluck

I've been in the same situation. In the early 2000's I was out every day looking for a job. I searched from 8 am until noon. I gave up at noon because I figured the early bird gets the worm. It took me 6 months to find a job only to be laid off 3 months later. I watched entire industrial complexes disappear. There were for sale signs everywhere. I remember working at one job and the bank was sending for sale flyers of equipment that they had foreclosed on from the last company I worked at.

I grew up in the 80's and 90's. I watched everything my grandparents fought and worked for get systematically destroyed. At first they told us we don't need pensions anymore because we have 401k. Everyone put's their money in the stock market and it disappears. Market crashes people get scared and bail and lose everything. An entire generations worth of wealth stolen. Then they told us we don't need unions. In the 1950's half of this country was unionized. In the 1950's everybody had a new house and a car. My grandmother and grandfather both retired in the 80's with half a million dollars each. Neither had higher then an 8th grade education.

First they destroyed organized labor and when that wasn't cheap enough they outsourced it to Chinese slave labor. There is a covert war going on in this country and it's the haves vs the have nots. It's in the news every day. People will cut your throat and stab you in the eye if it gives them a leg up. This thing they call capitalism it's nothing but greed.

The people at the top the ones hoarding all the wealth. The average person has no clue as to how they really live. Their wealth is beyond imaginable and it's never enough they want more.

Big decisions for them are do they want to blue or grey yacht. Big decisions for me are can I afford mac and cheese or ramen noodles.

originally posted by: wantsome
I've been in the same situation. In the early 2000's I was out every day looking for a job. I searched from 8 am until noon. I gave up at noon because I figured the early bird gets the worm. It took me 6 months to find a job only to be laid off 3 months later. I watched entire industrial complexes disappear. There were for sale signs everywhere. I remember working at one job and the bank was sending for sale flyers of equipment that they had foreclosed on
from the last company I worked at.

I grew up in the 80's and 90's. I watched everything my grandparents fought and worked for get systematically destroyed. At first they told us we don't need pensions anymore because we have
401k. Everyone put's their money in the stock market and it disappears. Market crashes people get scared and bail and lose everything. An entire generations worth of wealth stolen. Then they told us we don't need unions. In the 1950's half of this country was unionized. In the 1950's everybody had
a new house and a car. My grandmother and grandfather both retired in the 80's with half a million dollars each. Neither had higher then an 8th grade education.

First they destroyed organized labor and when that wasn't cheap enough they outsourced it to Chinese

slave labor. There is a covert war going on in this country and it's the haves vs the have nots. It's in the news every day. People will cut your throat and stab you in the eye if it gives them a leg up. This thing they call capitalism it's nothing but greed.


The people at the top the ones hoarding all the wealth. The average person has no clue as to how they really live. Their wealth is beyond imaginable and it's never enough they want more.


Big decisions for them are do they want to blue or grey yacht. Big decisions for me are can I afford mac and cheese or ramen noodles.

Thank you for words of truth said very well.

a reply to: mblahnikluver


Omg I know your fear; and I loathe BOA (bank of America); I will never bank with that thieving institution.


I know it absolutely s@cks, but could you apply for welfare while you're looking? I knew a girl who did, they gave her a month training in medical secretary and she has now worked for a medical ctr that pays her Well, she also gets bonuses, and they all helped her out her first Christmas there because she was struggling at first. She's been there over 10 years now!

Also heard from some fellow co-workers Verizon is about to do a mass hiring for FIOS rollout, many positions you can work from home.

Just in case you want to keep looking - I see you got something - congrats

a reply to: mblahnikluver

I read your full post that you supplied, and have a few suggestions for you.
1. Pick up a good old fashioned yellow pages, and start with the A's. There are many businesses that you may not even know about. Start dialing them up, right down the alphabetical list.
2. Stop thinking a job interview is to see if you are going to get a chance to be hired. Instead act, and give off the persona that you are interviewing them to see if they are worthy of having you work for them. Confidence goes a long way as long as you are sure you can back it up.
3. After 1 week of not hearing back from a possible employer, give them a ring. Ask them what skills or faults you need to improve on for a possible future job with them. This shows dedication, and the ability to problem solve and change with the company as needed.
4. Study your prospective employer and make note cards. Figure out what skills and assets you have that the company can make use of. Add this to your resume to show that you are not walking in blindly and will provide a set of competent skills that will be an asset to them.
5. Don't be afraid to skip the line on the website. After filling out your application, call the companies headquarters and show your interest. Again be ready to tell them a few problems that you may have noticed their locally operated business having, and then have two solutions to the problem. Also point out something you notice that is positive about the locally ran business and have a way to expand upon that positive observance. Example: I have noticed that when calling your store, I am greeted with a stranger on the phone who i can't associate with a name. So I would make the suggestion that all phone calls be answered with Hello, this is _______, how can I help you today? Or better yet: Thank you for choosing ABCD for your purchases, This is ________ how are you doing today?

Those are my top five tips for interaction. There are plenty more things a person can do to improve their chances of getting a job. send me a message if you need more tips!

originally posted by: mcsjr454
a reply to: mblahnikluver

I read your full post that you supplied, and have a few suggestions for you.
1. Pick up a good old fashioned yellow pages, and start with the A's. There are many businesses that you may not even know about. Start dialing them up, right down the alphabetical list.
2. Stop thinking a job interview is to see if you are going to get a chance to be hired. Instead act, and give off the persona that you are interviewing them to see if they are worthy of having you work for them. Confidence goes a long way as long as you are sure you can back it up.
3. After 1 week of not hearing back from a possible employer, give them a ring. Ask them what skills or faults you need to improve on for a possible future job with them. This shows dedication, and the ability to problem solve and change with the company as needed.
4. Study your prospective employer and make note cards. Figure out what skills and assets you have that the company can make use of. Add this to your resume to show that you are not walking in blindly and will provide a set of competent skills that will be an asset to them.
5. Don't be afraid to skip the line on the website. After filling out your application, call the companies headquarters and show your interest. Again be ready to tell them a few problems that you may have noticed their locally operated business having, and then have two solutions to the problem. Also point out something you notice that is positive about the locally ran business and have a way to expand upon that positive observance. Example: I have noticed that when calling your store, I am greeted with a stranger on the phone who i can't associate with a name. So I would make the suggestion that all phone calls be answered with Hello, this is _______, how can I help you today? Or better yet: Thank you for choosing ABCD for your purchases, This is ________ how are you doing today?

Those are my top five tips for interaction. There are plenty more things a person can do to improve their chances of getting a job. send me a message if you need more tips!

In my previous post all I did was piss and moan. I should of added something constructive to topic. ^^^^ This is 100% what you need to do.

I can't tell you how many times I called a company I applied at to follow up on a application and they told me to come in. I would just call and say I put in an application and I was wondering if they had any openings. Call once a day and bug the snot out of them. Persistence pays.

Confidence is key. You can't just go into an interview and plead I'll do anything.

You need to sell yourself on your strengths and stay positive. Always show up 10 minutes before an interview.

Don't rely on just the internet for hunting jobs. Hit the pavement and drive around. Do it early in the morning to show you just didn't crawl out of bed at noon. I've had companies hire me on the spot.

A properly filled out resume can do wonders also. Have them printed out in a folder. List all of the things you've done in your work history.

Sorry if any of this has been covered I didn't read the whole thread.

Since you live in Florida, and have a financial background, consider the Dept of Children & Families as an Economic Self-Sufficiency Specialist I. Starting pay is $23886.49 ($11.48) and after one year probation and shown proficiency you get $26540.54. I realize it isn't quite the $15 but benefits will be much better than the private sector ($150/mo for family healthcare).

jobs.myflorida.com...

Good luck.

This illustrates the problem a company advertised a job and specifically excluded all American citizen and only wanted H1B people.

LINK

Isn't that against human rights and illegal ?

If it isn't it should be made so.

Find a staffing agency. Thats the best way to do it. They het paid to find you a job.

I really hope this post doesn't get lost. I also went through a very hard time finding a job with the work hours I needed. Here is what I learned the hard way.....

****PEOPLE ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO HIRE SOMEONE THEY KNOW***

***ONCE YOU ARE IN A JOB AND ARE DOING A GOOD JOB - THAT'S THE TIME TO ASK ABOUT YOUR SCHEDULE****

***Employers HATE breaks in resumes****

My last two jobs were 30 flexible hours a week with full benefits. They certainly weren't advertised like that.

I had to start as a temp (at a lower level than my previous jobs) and then negotiate the hours. It was tough the initial period working full-time but worth it in the end.

One thing I didn't do that I wished I did was fill in the gaps when I was off. Do something while your are off (at least something you can put on your resume). Watch other children for a reduce rate, Uber, start your own cleaning business, ect.

The starting your own business/consulting is a common filler for professionals. Put up some signs advertising housekeeping services. Even if you just get one or two customers, you can at least talk about your business.

a reply to: mblahnikluver

My friend started job hunting back in January. He was sending 10 to 12 applications a week. He is a Red Seal Journeymen. After 6 months of looking and driving to interviews and submitting resume's, he got a job, much lower in wages then he is used to or could command. 2 days on the job and now his phone is ringing off the hook with job offers! Go figure.

It's hard to have so much rejection, it's hard to put out so many resume's and get nothing back. Putting out the money to drive to interviews is maddening when in reality you don't have the money to spend. Yet if you don't spend the money how can you get a job. You are stuck.

Hang tight, keep applying a job will come along at some point. I know you are a female that does not mean you are pigeon holed into only certain types of jobs. You can do construction, not all construction jobs require skilled labour. (sorry I don't mean to sound rude). There are many construction jobs that pay well that a general laborer does. Or maybe work on a road crew? What ever you do just hang tight something will come alone, really it will.

Good luck.