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originally posted by: rickymouse
It is actually a powerful Messiah that returns, not necessarily Jesus. A Messiah is one who is in full communication with god and the angels. They are the authors of this reality we live in. They can alter the script, or should I say matrix for those who use that name.
So, which side did you choose to follow, did you take the bait of the one delivering the test and stray off the path of righteousness?
I'll probably get left right here on earth, Satan won't want me and I doubt if I will get through the pearly gates. Oh well, eternal sleep sounds good.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: rickymouse
It is actually a powerful Messiah that returns, not necessarily Jesus. A Messiah is one who is in full communication with god and the angels. They are the authors of this reality we live in. They can alter the script, or should I say matrix for those who use that name.
So, which side did you choose to follow, did you take the bait of the one delivering the test and stray off the path of righteousness?
I'll probably get left right here on earth, Satan won't want me and I doubt if I will get through the pearly gates. Oh well, eternal sleep sounds good.
the scary concept is if that does happen and people just let this messiah figure take over the world. conceding that we cannot rule ourselves and must accept a global theocratic dictatorship that tells us how we are supposed to feel and think, where every minute of our existence is monitored and graded. basically 1984 reframed as a post-apocalyptic utopia. do you suppose freedom of speech and religion would still be a thing? would "freedom" be a thing at all?
Psalms 68:17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.
Adding "Hebrew" doesn't make the phrase "original text" any less laughable.
Matthew 24-27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
2 Peter 1-19 : We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the morning star arise in your hearts.
Matthew 24- 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
As No prophecy can be correct that invalidates half the bible .
Here’s a little challenge.
Try designing a genealogy - even from fiction - which meets the following criteria:
The number of words in it must be divisible by 7 evenly. (In each of these constraints, it is assumed that the resulting divisions are without any remainders).
The number of letters must also be divisible by 7. (Not too difficult so far? Let’s include a few more constraints…)
The number of vowels and the number of consonants must also each be divisible by 7.
(Getting more challenging? Let’s add a few more).
The number of words that begin with a vowel must be divisible by 7.
The number of words that begin with a consonant must be divisible by 7. (Let’s add some frequency constraints).
The number of words that occur more than once must be divisible by 7.
The number of words that occur in more than one form shall be divisible by 7.
The number of words that occur in only one form shall be divisible by 7.
The number of nouns shall be divisible by 7.
Only 7 words shall not be nouns.
The number of names in the genealogy shall be divisible by 7.
Only 7 other kinds of nouns are permitted.
The number of males names shall be divisible by 7.
The number of generations shall be 21, also divisible by 7.
These have all been met (in the Greek) in the genealogy of Jesus Christ in the first 11 verses of the Gospel of Matthew.
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Chance as the Rival Conjecture?
The difficulties of matching a corpus of any text to fit the numerical rules are staggering. For each feature listed there are six chances of failing and only one of success. For two such features at the same time, there is only one in 7 x 7, or 49 changes of “winning.” In fact, for each additional feature required, the odds pile up against complete success rather quickly:
For 2: 7 x 7= 49
For 3: 7 x 7 x 7= 343
For 4: 7 x 7 x 7 x 7= 2,401
For 5: 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7= 16,807
For 6: 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7= 117,649
For 7: 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7= 823,543
For 8: 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7= 5,764,801
For 9: 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7 x 7= 40,353,607
1. There are 54 Messianic prophecies and more than 300 Messianic references in the
Bible. Jesus fulfilled all of them.
2. The odds of Jesus fulfilling just eight of the 54 Messianic prophecies that history other
than the Bible confirms is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000, or 10^17.
Map of U.S. showing relative size of state of Texas.
The odds of Jesus fulfilling just eight of the 54 Messianic prophecies is equivalent to the state of Texas being covered with silver dollars touching one another and stacked two feet high and a blindfolded man picking the only coin among them that is marked on the first try.
A. How did He arrange to be born in a specific family?
(Family of Abraham: see Genesis 12:3; fulfilled in Matthew 1:1. Family of Isaac: see Genesis 17:19; fulfilled in Luke 3:34. Family of Jacob: see Numbers 24:17; fulfilled in Matthew 1:2. Tribe of Judah: see Genesis 49:10; fulfilled in Luke 3:33 and Hebrews 7:14. Heir to King David's throne: see 2 Samuel 7:12-13 fulfilled in Luke 1:32-33; and Isaiah 9:7 fulfilled in Romans 1:3).
B. How did He arrange to be born in a specific city in which His parents didn't live?
(See Micah 5:2; fulfilled in Matthew 2:1; Luke 2:4-6)
C. How did He arrange His own death so that it would be with two others?
(Isaiah 53:12; fulfilled in Matthew 27:38 and Mark 15:27-28)
D. How did He arrange for His executioners to gamble for His clothing?
(Psalm 22:18; fulfilled in Luke 23:34 and Matthew 27:35-36)
E. How did He arrange to be betrayed in advance for 30 pieces of silver?
(Zechariah11:12-13; fulfilled in Matthew 27:9-10)
F. How did He arrange to be crucified on the exact day that the Jews offered a spotless
lamb as a sacrifice for their sins?
(Luke 22:7 and 1 Corinthians 5:7)
G.How did He arrange to have the executioners to carry out the regular practice of
breaking the legs of the two victims on each side, but not His own?
(Psalm 34:20; fulfilled in John 19:33, 36)
H. How did He arrange to come back to life on the exact day that He said that He would?
(Not see decay: Psalm 16:10; Matthew 16:21. Fulfilled in Acts 2:31 and Acts 13:37. Raised on the third day: Matthew 17:23, 20:19; fulfilled in Luke 24:6-7 and Luke 24:46)