BREAKING: House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, multiple aides shot at Congressional baseball practice

a reply to: UKTruth

Hopefully enough is enough for ALL of US to change our ways.

a reply to: queenofswords

Yes I am waiting for that, I hope he doesn't bring gun control.

a reply to: Kantzveldt

So what was the guy who shot 5 BLM protesters doing? How about the guy who murdered worshipers in the Toronto mosque? Dylan Roof? How about the murderer of British MP Jo Cox? (the 1st anniversary of that murder is tomorrow)

It's always a "disturbed lone wolf" when it comes to a murderer who leans right. If the asshole killing people or trying to kill people is anything else, it's blamed on race, religion, political leanings, etc. Hell, if he'd shot Dems and had Trump on his FB, there'd be three threads about how this was a false flag by now.

Let's set the record straight here. Bernie Sanders isn't to blame, Donald Trump isn't to blame, guns aren't to blame and anyone who would do this is clearly disturbed given his actions.

This is a horrible and disturbing thing to have happen and we should all be equally concerned rather than rushing to use it for political smears and point scoring.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
50 to 100 shots? That peaks my skepticism. Armed guards around. Are they the slowest people in town? Guy has to lug and reload ammo how many times?

The original shooter could have only shot maybe 5 times and the guards shot the rest of the 45 to 95 times.

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: jordan77

But that's not even the point. The point is, it's ok to say we don't know why this guy did what he did until it's revealed. And he's alive so it will be soon enough.

That doesn't mean a damn thing. Just because he's alive doesn't mean we will hear a word from him about his motives.

He's going to be interrogated, there will be a trial, he's gonna talk.

originally posted by: NthOther
a reply to: UKTruth

By the looks of it, this was another false flag/Manchurian-style attack to keep the people at the ends of our false political dichotomy at each other's throats.

I mean seriously, who takes a poll before going on a rampage?

Someone targeting Republicans.
ISIS have been known to take polls and issue tests before killing people too.

originally posted by: marg6043
Soo the shooter planned the whole thing knowing that the Congressman were in that park playing for years, so he knew when they were gathering and probably how many.

Now if the Shooter had to drive hours to get to the place, that means that somebody else was watching the area waiting for the right time for the shooting to move in.

This is going to be interesting, in my opinion he was not acting alone.

I wonder how many other sites of government gatherings are been under surveillance for attacks right now, I mean any attacks.

I doubt he was acting alone either. Probably an organised effort.

Antifa would be my guess.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: RogueWaterC1

oh, I'm not really a big proponent of gun control, after all I would really like a nice tank to park in my driveway and drive around town!!
I am just pointing out how hypocritical the american people have become....
that the position they will take are so dependent on their political party like this.
taking advantage of a tragedy is wrong, if it's justifying gun control, but right if it's justifying a muslim travel ban....
is it wrong, or right to take advantage of a tragedy for political gain or not? if it's wrong, it's wrong in both cases...
otherwise, aren't you also taking advantage of said tragedy yourself by criticizing the opposing party for doing the very same thing that you would do if you could find a way to use it to justify one of your political beliefs...
like...um... demonizing all liberals along with all media that opposes the songs you favor for the actions of one crazy person??

The best approach to me is always use common sense.

There is justification for connecting some things while not connecting specific other things. Common sense evaluation of each separate thing is best, imo.

a reply to: UKTruth

Not buying it for a second.

a reply to: UKTruth

You think the govt is tyrannical because that is what has been spoon fed to you.

I didn't express an opinion, thanks.

However, as you can see, this sentiment exists on both sides of the isle.

a reply to: butcherguy

Your average Bernie supporter doesn't go out and shoot Republicans. Your average conspiracy theorist doesn't shoot a Congresswoman in the head. Hell, your average neo-Nazi doesn't go out and shoot up a Black church. These tragedies didn't occur because the perpetrator was a Leftist, or a conspiracy theorist, or a racist. They occurred because these people were crazy.

a reply to: NthOther

Somebody that is mentally disturbed and believe that is in a mission.

Is not false flag here, just a derange person or group.

Something to keep an eye on it maybe more.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: butcherguy

I'm saying that is his excuse to go out and kill people. If Trump was never elected I'm sure he would have found some other reason to pull the trigger on someone.

This was a politically motivated attack by a far left communist trying to kill Republicans by the look of it.

Being confirmed now he asked Jeff Flake who the guys playing baseball were and whether they were Republicans or Democrats.

Well, when you have hate-fueled leftists like Kathy Griffin, Bill Maher, Anderson Cooper, Stephen Colbert, numerous CNN talking heads, "The Gang" at MSNBC, and so many others in the MSM continuously spouting vitriolic hatred of President Trump, conservatives, Republicans, and pretty much anyone who doesn't live on the coasts, eventually that hate is going to reach critical mass.

a reply to: Ohanka

I agree, time to declare ANTIFA a domestic terrorist group, who knows it maybe foreign agents attach to them financially too.

Anything to cause chaos and mayhem in our nation.

The way they work they are getting a lot of funding from somewhere.

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: UKTruth

You think the govt is tyrannical because that is what has been spoon fed to you.

I didn't express an opinion, thanks.

However, as you can see, this sentiment exists on both sides of the isle.

No, the tweet was irrelevant to the situation.
Rand Paul was talking about the constitution and the right to take up arms against a tyrannical govt.
The fact you would even associate that with this means you are very confused about what a tyrannical govt is.
Just stop the propaganda.

a reply to: theantediluvian

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Kantzveldt

This is a horrible and disturbing thing to have happen and we should all be equally concerned rather than rushing to use it for political smears and point scoring.

These are the moments we bank our faith in the bipartisan culture we built upon.

We only hope it wasnt all BS at this point.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Ohanka

I agree, time to declare ANTIFA a domestic terrorist group, who knows it maybe foreign agents attach to them financially too.

Anything to cause chaos and mayhem in our nation.

The way they work they are getting a lot of funding from somewhere.

BLM, Anifa, etc... all should be declared as terrorists

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: ColdWisdom

See, I think that the fact that this is turning into a gun issue already speaks volumes about the lack of intellect being displayed by people on all sides of the US political spectrum.

You're cherry picking. It's only been a few hours and it's already been a gun control issue, a political rhetoric issue, and a MSM issue.

originally posted by: Christosterone

-Chris

He has a second Facebook page and both are recently active.

You can find a link to his second page in his FB friend list, 'James Hodgkinson.'

Shooter is dead...