Comey may be in legal jeopardy according to FBI employment agreement

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

I don't know the full scope of the investigations and neither do you as the meatiest details are classified, so I just went all inclusive which is something you would have realized if you wanted to be honest about what I was saying and weren't just looking for something to argue with me about.

Your argument is that Trump might be under investigation based on something we don't know that may have been found in the last month.

I could just as easily say that Hillary Clinton is under investigation for the murder of Vince Foster. You never know, they may have found new evidence and are secretly investigating her.

I'd rather not play those games as I prefer to stay in this reality, thanks., and in this reality what we know to be true is that Trump is not, and never has been under investigation for collusion with Russia OR obstruction of justice.

a reply to: shooterbrody

The special prosecutor is the whistle-blower clause in acted silly.

What he did one more time

Says trump lied defamed him, the fbi, and me toned partly because of russia..

He leaks the info which get a special prosecutor BECAUSE HE THOUGHT THE DOJ WOULD NOT FULLY INVESTIGATE. He laid out his lack of confidence in sessions and lynch.

It's a pretty tight case really but what do I know. Guess we will see how it plays out.

a reply to: luthier

Yea. He really threw Sessions under the bus. I wonder what stuff he told them in private during the private meeting he had afterwards. It seemed like he had more to say about him but needed to wait until he wasn't in a public setting.

Open and shut case with many more charges to come hopefully.

a reply to: luthier

wow
no worries
continue to make up crap

seems to me that the only way trump could prove lied about the discussions they had in a meaningful way... would be if there were tapes... and the reason I say meaningful way is that I think there was at least one time when comey did make an honest mistake.
so, let's hear the tapes!!!

lol... and then after that, can we also hear the tapes of the meeting you had with the russians also? what?? there wasn't tapes of that meeting?? may I ask why?? did you trust the russians more than you did comey? and I assume you also trusted russian media more than you did the american media...

99% of trump's russian problem is being caused by trump's own actions! trying to bring charges against comey being one of those actions that will just increase his problems.

a reply to: dawnstar

I have a feeling that those tapes, if they exist, will eventually be subpoenaed. Trump opened up a HUGE can of worms by alluding to their existence.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: luthier

Yea. He really threw Sessions under the bus. I wonder what stuff he told them in private during the private meeting he had afterwards. It seemed like he had more to say about him but needed to wait until he wasn't in a public setting.

The kind of stuff that keeps loud mouth lawyers quiet. The only peep his personal lawyer..not because it's an investigation either. It's public testimony a proved by the special prosecutor.

These hearings are for citizen confidence in the system and to let them know what is slightly going on to stop panicking and making things up....this method was created before 24 hour news. It doesn't seem to work.

a reply to: luthier

Yeah. People just read too far into what was said and make up brand new narratives instead. It's what happened on the Comey thread yesterday.

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Open and shut case with many more charges to come hopefully.

That document clearly states 'criminal sanctions' for what Comey admitted to under oath. Can you identify the document? Is it official and is it something Comey would have signed.

originally posted by: xstealth
How many times in his testimony did Comey mention how he was raised and how good his mom raised him.

He was portraying himself to be a boyscout, no one does this in an official settings unless they're trying to manipulate judgement.

He forgot to watch this....

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: luthier

wow
no worries
continue to make up crap

Uh huh. Read up on the supreme court cases firing and defamation regarding leaks or procedures. Like the fellow who leaked about the air marshal policy and was fired for being a whistle-blower.

For whatever fantasy world people are living in James comey may not be a man you liked or even a good fbi director.

I seriously doubt whatever fox news or msnbc said about him when he was pissing everyone off (probably because he wouldn't just give in to the DOJ his statements make a lot sense to me now knowing what lynch said)

He was a good enough prosecutor to make it pretty much to the top and after that was thought highly enough of to be confirmed as fbi director.

Does anyone really think coney hasn't completely covered himself?

Now if trump has tapes that are clearly showing something than its a possibility.

Where is Jeff sessions? Why isnt he saying he is opening up an investigation immediately? I wonder why trump has to do it with a private lawyer..

Come to think of it they can ask Jeff under oath if what comey said about not wanting to be left alone is true. Sure would add some details either way.

a reply to: UKTruth

and.. of course, you all think that the former head of the fbi is just too stupid to know if it was against the law?
ya know, I am sorry, but I think the talking points aren't serving the trump administration any more than if everyone just shut their mouths and lets the investigation continue without the opinions from all the backseat drivers coming from every which way!!

so, let's imagine for a moment that comey KNOWINGLY put himself into legal jeopardy (because there is no way he could not know he was) and ask ourselves just what kind of deduction could be made from that..

ya know what comes to my mind...
comey isn't an insane politician, he wouldn't put himself into legal jeopardy over partisan politics.
considering his former position and the connections he most assuredly has built, more than likely he could have found a safer way for revenge.
so, why would he knowingly put himself into legal jeopardy????
my guess would be that what is going on is really much more serious than we are being led to believe, and he felt that by releasing the memo through a third party would be enough to get a special prosecutor appointed and that result was worth spending some time in jail....

like I said, I don't see just how this particular angle is really doing much good for trump's defense.

a reply to: xuenchen

I'm guessing Comey spoke to FBI counsel prior to releasing his personal notes and knew the laws involved.

He's not stupid.

Trump had already indicated he had "tapes" of the conversation via a tweet. Since the implication was that Comey would tell a different story than what was on the alleged "tapes," he decided to make it known that he had contemporaneous notes and that he'd discussed the events with high level individuals in the FBI at the time.

But we shall see.

Well, Comey doesn't seem to be lying in his interviews under oath. I suppose he would rather get charged with leaking out that little bit than something else he did. I bet this little leak testimony is to steer the committee away from something else. He is making himself look honest. When people pull that, sometimes there is something buried somewhere that needs to be investigated. Just because he mentioned that little leak does not mean he was not into something else. I actually think he supplied information through the agency but did not leak it himself. It may have been legal cause Obama altered the laws.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: UKTruth

and.. of course, you all think that the former head of the fbi is just too stupid to know if it was against the law?
ya know, I am sorry, but I think the talking points aren't serving the trump administration any more than if everyone just shut their mouths and lets the investigation continue without the opinions from all the backseat drivers coming from every which way!!

so, let's imagine for a moment that comey KNOWINGLY put himself into legal jeopardy (because there is no way he could not know he was) and ask ourselves just what kind of deduction could be made from that..

ya know what comes to my mind...
comey isn't an insane politician, he wouldn't put himself into legal jeopardy over partisan politics.
considering his former position and the connections he most assuredly has built, more than likely he could have found a safer way for revenge.
so, why would he knowingly put himself into legal jeopardy????

If what you deranged plain fact deniers are attempting to spin is true, then Comey has already implicated himself.
But of course you say he is too smart to do that eh?
If Comey had any thoughts that Trump obstructed justice, he was required by law to report it under 18 US Code 4.

www.law.cornell.edu...

If Comey is such a by the book guy as all you Leftists claim, why didn't he report it?
You guys can sit around all day and night denying indisputable facts all you want, but the truth is -
The Leftist narrative has been blown up.

a reply to: luthier

so you have ANY source that protects the fbi director ursurping the ag's job?

a reply to: UKTruth

Can you identify the document? Is it official and is it something Comey would have signed.

It is the FBI Employment Contract.... I hope that he signed one. He was an FBI employee.
Link

I have a question for the more knowledgeable here on the legal minutia of the whistle blower laws.

Q: Does it only protect someone that "blows the whistle" by leaking information while still employed?
Q: What happens if after being fired for (name the reason here), then information is leaked out, does it still apply?
Q: Is there any differentiation between before and after being employed at the organization upon which you blow the whistle?

I honestly would like to know.

Thanks

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: UKTruth

Can you identify the document? Is it official and is it something Comey would have signed.

It is the FBI Employment Contract.... I hope that he signed one. He was an FBI employee.
Link

Thanks.. then they likely have grounds.