British terrorist attackers obvious lack of firearms.... Take note America!

Took me a minute to realize you were being sarcastic.

a reply to: dfnj2015

So you can export American life/values worldwide of course! Oh, and so you can rape and pillage smaller countries that can't defend themselves...

PA

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

France has similar laws to the UK when it comes to gun control, the terrorists there manage to show with AK47's to kill people.

I don't think it has as much to do with laws, rather that the UK is an island and thus it's easier to regulate illegal weapons being smuggled into the country.

If you banned guns in the US you would still likely have weapons smuggled in through Mexico and potentially Canada, you also have a lot more coastline to police than say the UK

Just an FYI last week in Liverpool there were 3 separate shootings, for a supposedly safer country we still have a lot of gun crime it just doesn't make the worldwide news.

I also have a suspicion that the criminal gangs running the black market for guns are specifically choosing not to sell their weapons to the terrorists because they simply don't want the hassle of the security services breathing down their necks.

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

You need to find the root cause of worldwide tension, then when you find that, it has to be eliminated. If you eliminate the root cause, everything else, over time, will fall in line and be as it should. The root cause in this instance however is America, America is the reason for worldwide turmoil or rather, the people in power that run it.

The U.S.A cannot survive as a nation without War, they feed off it, they were born of it and they will always yearn for it. Eliminate the War Mongers..

Drain The Swamp

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

The US has had very few terrorist attacks involving guns.

Also there are guns in Europe, they could obtain them if they want to.

www.reuters.com...

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said on Tuesday police were treating a deadly siege in the city of Melbourne as an "act of terrorism" after a claim by the Islamic State group that one of its fighters was the gunman responsible. Police shot dead the gunman, Yacqub Khayre, who they said had a long criminal history, on Monday after he killed a man in the foyer of an apartment block in Melbourne, Australia's second-largest city, and held a woman hostage inside.

Gunman??? The hell you say...there are no guns down there....are there???

In December 2014, a gunman killed one hostage during a 17-hour siege at a popular Sydney cafe. Another hostage was killed by fragments of a bullet fired by police who stormed the cafe and killed the gunman.

Son of a Nutcracker it happened there before too!!!

Perhaps they should get rid of the guns down there too????

Plain and simple : If you are not an American citizen, you're opinion doesn't matter. You run your country the way you like, we'll run our's. Tired of arguing with people on how their society gets along fine without [ insert thing here ] so every other society should be like them.

One reason they are using knives, could be that their leaders told them to use knives.. What did it take in just about every incident for these bad guys to be stopped? Someone with a gun. Most of it is culture. Thug culture is responsible for the vast majority of gun violence. Then we have lefties who are responsible for the majority of "mass shootings".

People do not seem to care about killings, unless they are carried out with a firearm.

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

Governments don't tend to own guns, that would be the army and the police force....

You do realise that your government was elected by the people to serve the people? Where you get this idea that one day your government will turn on the people and massacre you all is beyond me, your grasp of politics seems lacking somewhat.

Also, They have drones, good luck with that....

PA

Well, let's just say we had a bad experience under British rule about 240+ years ago.

a reply to: stosh64

Your argument is not really relevant... A terrorist attack without guns kills less people, that's just common sense...

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to prove with your post....?

Yes, we had terrorist attacks here, as are happening worldwide at the moment, I would postulate that had the attackers had guns many many more people would have been killed and injured.

I assume you were trying to prove that the UK is still a dangerous country because these attacks have happened, and that if we did have guns they wouldn't have happened....

False logic my friend.... and simple delusion...

PA

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

You are 100% correct. But, people still died, and bad people were the ones who killed them. If your logic was sound, that wouldn't have happened.

Guns are a tool, LIKE A HAMMER.

I'll leave you with this.
en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

The terrorists had no guns-

Neither did the dead victims.
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Imagine a world were only "good" people had guns....


Imagine a world were criminals only had non weapons.....


Now imagine a world where those 2 (above) worlds met.

a reply to: network dude

I would continue to argue that it is considerably harder, MUCH harder, to kill someone with a hammer than with a gun... And you need to get one hell of a lot closer!

PA

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
a reply to: stosh64

Your argument is not really relevant... A terrorist attack without guns kills less people, that's just common sense...

I'm not quite sure what you are trying to prove with your post....?

Yes, we had terrorist attacks here, as are happening worldwide at the moment, I would postulate that had the attackers had guns many many more people would have been killed and injured.

I assume you were trying to prove that the UK is still a dangerous country because these attacks have happened, and that if we did have guns they wouldn't have happened....

False logic my friend.... and simple delusion...

PA

Really one with guns kills more people??? I refer you again to largest terrorist attack ever with no guns and over 2000 dead.

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

A terrorist attack without guns kills less people, that's just common sense...

Explosives kill and injure many more on average it would seem. Trucks seem to as well, if there are enough people in the way.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Good thing to know the Army and police forces are not part of the government.

hahahaha - are you serious, in Australia the Police answer to a political (State Govt) minister and the Army answers to the Defence Minister(also Political) ...unless you're talking about the separation of Powers?

On 2nd thought I think you were being sarcastic in response to the poster.....

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
a reply to: network dude

I would continue to argue that it is considerably harder, MUCH harder, to kill someone with a hammer than with a gun... And you need to get one hell of a lot closer!

PA

you are correct. You can also kill many more people more efficiently with a big truck if they are all in a group.

a reply to: notsure1

Clearly I was comparing to a knife attack or a hammer attack, not to all other terrorist attacks ever....

The point remains...

PA

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Good thing to know the Army and police forces are not part of the government.

hahahaha - are you serious, in Australia the Police answer to a political (State Govt) minister and the Army answers to the Defence Minister(also Political) ...unless you're talking about the separation of Powers?

Im pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Aldakoopa

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
Tell me, of all the terrorist attacks in the united states how many of them didn't feature guns?

Ok, I'll bite. There was the big one. You know, 9/11. No guns whatsoever. They used Assault Airliners.

And the OKC bombing.

We need to ban trucks too!

Nah, just ban truck bombs....

Oh.