Grand Solar Minimum, Global Elite Using Police State to Control Food

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Uptick as in "first time 9% spotless days for years", 2015 was still pretty active with 0%. Not an uptick in sunspot-activity, I messed up my post. Thanks for the hint.

Anyway. Care to point out that Mini Ice Age in the 70ies? Just to compare the coming slowdown with the last one (in centuries) for arguments sake.
The North Atlantic (surface) warming reversal is a funny feature linked to ... you've guessed it... more heat:
"a reduction in the strength of the ocean circulation and heat transport, linked to record low densities in the deep Labrador Sea. The low density in the deep Labrador Sea is primarily due to deep ocean warming since 1995". (from your link)

Also:

Ocean Heat. Three independent analyses show that the amount of heat stored in the ocean has increased substantially since the 1950s. Ocean heat content not only determines sea surface temperature, but also affects sea level and currents.
Sea Surface Temperature. Ocean surface temperatures increased around the world during the 20th century. Even with some year-to-year variation, the overall increase is clear, and sea surface temperatures have been consistently higher during the past three decades than at any other time since reliable observations began in the late 1800s.

Climate Change Indicators: Oceans

One thing I've noticed lately that I can't remember ever seeing before is signs hanging in the Walmart product section apologizing for not having a lot of things due to poor crop harvests all around.

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What they have found out is that the Gulf Stream. Tends to do the job, but when it does not, Britany will need ice breakers.www.youtube.com...

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The North Atlantic (surface) warming reversal is a funny feature linked to ... you've guessed it... more heat:

Yes that negates my argument, should have read it more carefully. Just for interest that paper references this paper which identifies warming to North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO).

Care to point out that Mini Ice Age in the 70ies?

Lots of articles from 70's about ice age because of colder than normal weather. But sunspots numbers were still above those recorded during the last Little Ice Age.

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Interesting. Picked one of the articles, 1975:

There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.

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Same old fearmongering, eh?
The funny thing is, that said food crisis ended roughly at the same time newsweek ran their article:

In addition, the crisis of 1973-74 had four immediate causes:

Poor weather conditions in many parts of the world. These began with the devastating cyclone that hit Bangladesh in November 1970; and were followed by the impact of a long drought in the Sahel region of sub-Saharan Africa, the partial failure of the Soviet winter cereal crop in 1972-73, and serious floods in northern India

A substantial increase in fertiliser prices. This was partly due to the behaviour of a notoriously "pendulum" industry, and partly to Morocco's decision to seek to improve its earnings from rock phosphate (a key compound constituent of fertiliser) by trebling its price between January and July 1974

A huge increase in oil prices. The price of oil rose by nearly 450% from October 1973 to May 1974. The trend started with Opec action around the time of the Yom Kippur/Ramadan war in October 1973, but it merged into an all-time bull-market that rapidly affected the economies of many "third world" countries as they struggled to pay for oil imports

The partial failure of the green revolution. Many of the new miracle-plant varieties were indeed remarkable, but they depended on the ability of the farmers growing them to afford the fertilisers, pesticides and adequate irrigation that they so often required. When prices of fuel and fertiliser were high, the miracle-plant varieties were starved of precisely those inputs needed to maximise yields.

The world’s food insecurity

As usual, we see multiple factors contributing to a crisis. And I don't see how one of them can be attributed to a colder period due to a slightly less active sun. Any suggestions?



The Ocanic Currents are a good point indeed, there's our Ice Age looming. Anonentity already brought up the Gulf Stream:

According to an unpublished survey by Potsdam University researchers Kirsten Zickfeld and Anders Levermann, expert scientific opinion varies widely on the likelihood that excess freshwater runoff from the Arctic will alter the North Atlantic conveyor belt in this century.
Some scientists consulted for the survey said there is no chance that the current will break down. Others estimated that the chance of a complete shutdown exceeds 50 percent if global warming climbs by 7.2° to 9° Fahrenheit (4° to 5° Celsius) by 2100.

Global Warming and Atlantic Currents

It varies quite a lot, actually. But I guess we're perfectly capable of ruining our ride without the sun maundering along.

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You have a lot of high players tying their career to Global warming, its become PC. Since they have a lot of political power, and the six news corporations, sing from the same handbook. If you deviate from the dogma you are removed from your position and replaced. So this isn't just about climate change its about all the other things the Governments are pushing, which they push without any form of common sense applied to it. But it will be the cooling , when planning for a warming which might be their greatest folly.www.youtube.com...

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You can see what a change in temperature, did to the Viking settlement in Greenland.www.youtube.com...