U.S. Missile Defense Test Over Pacific Ocean a Key Milestone

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: carewemust

Bad war, but huge profits.

Would Kim Jong strike South Korea pre-emptively, or if the US/allies begin pounding North Korea missile sites first? No matter what happens, South Korea is North Korea's primary target?

a reply to: carewemust

Seoul will always be his number one target. He has no love for South Korea and there are American troops within striking distance of DPRK artillery batteries north of the DMZ.

This is the reason that a vast majority of Seoul is underground and they have lockers full of gas masks and combat rations at stations every 500 feet or so.

a reply to: AnonyMason

Your video link is broken, what was it intended to show?

a reply to: carewemust

Thousands of artillery pieces trained on Seoul and pretty much guaranteed they will be going off.

Who knows, they might throw human waves at the DMZ and try to establish themselves below the border.

The South is prepared for this, they do have the subway tunnels with supplies and gas masks stocked up. They've lived under this threat for a few generations now.

a reply to: D8Tee

My apologies!

EDTA oops apparently that video has been removed for copyrights. The portion of the video I referenced was Joseph Detrani explaining that even without ICBM's the DPRK could get a nuclear bomb anywhere in the world using non conventional means. For example, a suitcase bomb, or by using it's network of trade/shipping vessels to have one delivered to a port city in the US.

a reply to: seasonal

Feel safer? Since the United States government is still here... then no.

Big milestone. They got eight successful hits out of fourteen now, that makes the success rate over fifty percent now. I feel so much more secure.

originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: carewemust

Seoul will always be his number one target. He has no love for South Korea and there American troops within striking distance of DPRK artillery batteries north of the DMZ.

This is the reason that a vast majority of Seoul is underground and they have lockers full of gas masks and combat rations at stations every 500 feet or so.

Thank-you for that information. For me, the ONLY positive to this North Korea situation is that I'm learning quite a bit about the regional relationships and also about missile technology.

The way Kim Jong is ramping up his capabilities, it seems that being underground may not work for Seoul.

originally posted by: seasonal

The Pentagon successfully tested a U.S. long-range interceptor missile over the Pacific Ocean on Tuesday in an exercise aimed at helping gauge American readiness to counter a potential threat from North Korea.

During the test, the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency launched an interceptor rocket from an underground silo at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The interceptor hit and destroyed an intercontinental-range missile fired from a test site on Kwajalein Atoll in the Pacific, the Pentagon announced.

U.S. Missile Defense Agency Director Vice Adm. Jim Syring called the test a "critical milestone" in a statement.

"This system is vitally important to the defense of our homeland, and this test demonstrates that we have a capable, credible deterrent against a very real threat. I am incredibly proud of the warfighters who executed this test and who operate this system every day," Syring said.

www.nbcnews.com...

Success. The US military has intercepted a dummy ICBM missile from an Atoll in the pacific with a missile fired from California. This is a milestone, and is vital to defend our homeland said Jim Syring, US missile defense vice admiral.

Do you feel safer?

I think the article said that about 4 out of 10 actually worked.
And we NEVER know which four will work!

a reply to: D8Tee

I don't think South Korea's decades of preparations took into account being hit by nuclear bombs from North Korea. That could backfire on N.K., due to so much radiation. Right? Though if Kim Jong has the same hate for South Korea, that Liberals have for Donald Trump in this country, he wouldn't care.

a reply to: seasonal

Given all the concern the US has expressed about Iranian and NK missle tests, did the US show the same amount of concern and respect they themselves expect for Iran and NK and Russia for all the independant states in the pacific.

Did they show this, i wonder, by communcing and liasiing with the pacific states about the flight pahs, the risks, and emergency plans and compesnation for unwanted events? did they set all these things out in a contract or treaty with the pacific nations?

Given what they have said about Iran, Russia and NK in recent times I will just be unable to believe any assertion or claim they totally ignored the pacific states and effectivley said 'up yours.'

a reply to: carewemust

It's actually damn near impossible to make a nuclear warhead detonate by outside forces. It CAN be done, but it takes an act of God almost to do it.

a reply to: seasonal

It landed a couple weeks ago. This flight was concentrating on an upgraded Hall thruster.

originally posted by: toysforadults
Theatre, more money for the military industrial complex while Putin, Clinton, Trump and whoever runs China are having weird rituals in Saudi Arabia, laughing over cocktails and planning pretend wars to send our kids too.

Agreed, the warfare is just getting darker

originally posted by: toysforadults
Theatre, more money for the military industrial complex while Putin, Clinton, Trump and whoever runs China are having weird rituals in Saudi Arabia, laughing over cocktails and planning pretend wars to send our kids too.

Agreed, the warfare is just getting darker

a reply to: Groot

Nuclear winter should. Global extinction from even a limited nuclear exchange with the Russians could be devastating.

One Tsar Bomba will ruin your day.

Nuke Map Shows Devastation By Weapon Class

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Groot

Nuclear winter should. Global extinction from even a limited nuclear exchange with the Russians could be devastating.

One Tsar Bomba will ruin your day.

Nuke Map Shows Devastation By Weapon Class

One Tsar bomba would ruin everones day.
From wiki too..

"To say that the explosion absolutely decimated the area immediately surrounding it is an understatement. The “total destruction” blast radius of the bomb was a full 35 km (22 miles) and every building in a small abandoned village 55 km (34 miles away) was also leveled."~wiki😮

Edit: Estimated fatalities:
6,326,470
Estimated injuries:
3,928,940

"Effects radii for 50 megaton surface burst (smallest to largest): ▼
Radiation radius (500 rem): 5.05 km (80.2 km²)
500 rem radiation dose; without medical treatment, there can be expected between 50% and 90% mortality from acute effects alone. Dying takes between several hours and several weeks.
Fireball radius: 6.01 km (113 km²)
Maximum size of the nuclear fireball; relevance to lived effects depends on height of detonation. If it touches the ground, the amount of radioactive fallout is significantly increased.
Air blast radius (20 psi): 8.02 km (202 km²)
At 20 psi overpressure, heavily built concrete buildings are severely damaged or demolished; fatalities approach 100%.
Air blast radius (5 psi): 16.9 km (894 km²)
At 5 psi overpressure, most residential buildings collapse, injuries are universal, fatalities are widespread.
Thermal radiation radius (3rd degree burns): 51.4 km (8,290 km²)
Third degree burns extend throughout the layers of skin, and are often painless because they destroy the pain nerves. They can cause severe scarring or disablement, and can require amputation. 100% probability for 3rd degree burns at this yield is 13.6 cal/cm2."

That's a metric F-Ton!😮



Well... I know of 3 ATS'rs that or Kapoot. But North Korea is wayyyyyy off from this. And they would nuke themselves if they fired this at Seoul.😉

a reply to: dfnj2015

They made one. No missile exsists close to 50 Mt. The 100mt they made wasn't detonated due to The plane being unable to outrun The blast. The real killers are the icbms carrying multiple warheads per.

What the people that say they lack confidence in our ICBM defense system don't seem to realize or at least mention is that in the event of a real ICBM launch, they'd fire several of these things at a single ICBM, thus making a shoot down almost guaranteed. They fire one only for a test because it's expensive equipment that they're trying to optimize. In the event of a real event, I think they'd fire multiple interceptors.

a reply to: r0xor

It depends on the threat. We don't have all that many interceptors. As of last year there were fewer than 40 missiles deployed. A small attack, like from North Korea would get at least two fired at each missile. A large scale attack not so much.