With Confederate flags gone, Civil War museum will close

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Tardacus

I`ll just say that the confederate states weren`t trying to overthrow the government of the U.S.

Yeah they were just trying to secede...
Because State Rights...

The Right to own slaves...

or assassinate the leaders of the U.S. government

But they did eventually though, didn't they...

Lincoln didn't die in awe of the play in that theatre.
He was shot to death.



Now, about that "County owned park"?
Anything to say about that?

Lincoln broke the law and literally was The traitor because he violated the law to prosecute a personal war. Lincoln took the south wanting to leave(at the time perfectly constitutional before the civil war) as a personal insult because they did not feel obligated to pay him tribute.

Lincoln got what he deserved for treason. Lincoln had no problem with slavery as long as it lined his pockets. HE was a hypocrite.
Also the south didnt send James wilkes booth to murder Lincoln that was a lone wolf.

IT all came down to money. The north wanted to keep profiting at the expense of the south.
That moron of a confederate president played into lincolns hands by saying it was about slavery.
He prolly meant ECONOMIC slavery and its been lost and distorted into just slavery.
99 percent of the southerners didnt own or have slaves though. It was not about slaves to them.

Dwight David Eisenhower's thoughts on General Robert Edward Lee and secession.


Dear Dr. Scott:

Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War between the States the issue of secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.

General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was a poised and inspiring leader, true to the high trust reposed in him by millions of his fellow citizens; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his faith in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.

From deep conviction, I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s calibre would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the Nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.

Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.

Sincerely,

Dwight D. Eisenhower
President of the United States

a reply to: seasonal

eh
who needs these museums when you have google right?

those are the kinds of replies we saw when some cuts were proposed that talked about closing libraries and museums.

just not as important as this one then?

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Tardacus

I`ll just say that the confederate states weren`t trying to overthrow the government of the U.S.

Yeah they were just trying to secede...
Because State Rights...

The Right to own slaves...

or assassinate the leaders of the U.S. government

But they did eventually though, didn't they...

Lincoln didn't die in awe of the play in that theatre.
He was shot to death.



Now, about that "County owned park"?
Anything to say about that?

Lincoln broke the law and literally was The traitor because he violated the law to prosecute a personal war. Lincoln took the south wanting to leave(at the time perfectly constitutional before the civil war) as a personal insult because they did not feel obligated to pay him tribute.

Lincoln got what he deserved for treason. Lincoln had no problem with slavery as long as it lined his pockets. HE was a hypocrite.

Wow. I read something that just drops my jaw every day now. Lincoln hadn't even yet been inaugurated when South Carolina seceded.

South Carolina Ordinance of Seccesion - it's pretty much entirely about the right to own other human beings as livestock.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: JinMI

Please tell me your not serious😓

Gave a flag in hopes that was sarcasm

Absolute sarcasm.

If we are going to erase history based on feels, there would be no history to tell.

Well the people whom are complaining never got passed the oral tradition phase of history to begin with.

a reply to: jkm1864

The same people complaining didn't give a # when we were discussing libraries and art museums possibly closing due to potential lack of funding. I know this is not a funding issue but it still strikes me as amusing.
Who reads books anymore?
All you need is Google?
Who needs to go to a museum to look at and learn about art when you can do an image search?

But when the confederate comes down holy #. When the museum in question voluntarily closes it's doors holy #.

It's hilarious.

Nothing matters till it does

originally posted by: SolAquarius
a reply to: seasonal

My apologies didn't mean to derail your thread with this just wanted to correct the record with the whole slaves built the pyramids misconception.

The problem there is that it's Dr. Zahi Hawass saying that they did not use slaves, and he is primarily interested in public relations and controlling information that makes Egypt look good more so than actual facts.

So in that way, we may be looking at a similar attempt to retcon history so your link might actually not be a derailing from the original OP but instead run in parallel.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Confederate flag blurred out.

www.reddit.com...


This is censorship.

I share this planet with incredibly dumb and petty people....

This museum can be summed in in 3 simple words: Ain't no loss. If you think you can't teach history without a flag you voluntarily removed yourself, you already failed teaching history, period. The argument is as retarded as saying you voluntarily removed the use of an obelus (the ÷ symbol) and therefore now can't teach division without it.

a reply to: Nyiah


I voluntarily pay income taxes too.

a reply to: TinySickTears

I don't care about the confederacy. i just hate seeing people become infected by petty memes that caused irrational, emotionally driven behavior

Im not fond of the cancer known as fidget spinners, either

I wonder how many people raging against anything representing the south in the civil war are not even aware that Jefferson Davis considered Secession the last and worst option on the table, and he did not want the presidency, but when his state voted to leave he followed the will of the people... and when he was voted into office he against followed the will of the people.

The man had many flaws but he understood that as a representative in DC he was beholden to the will of his constituents... wish some of our current crop has the same general attitude.

a reply to: seasonal

I am still trying to grasp this new attempt of some morons and stupid illiterates that wants to erase history.

Darn they think that taken away all historical facts can erase the results of personal choices.

How long ago slavery was abolished, or the civil right movement gain what they wanted.

And still people in this time an age blame their shortcomings mostly by personal choices to history.

Morons, they future of America is been fill with morons.

I am still trying to grasp this new attempt of some morons and stupid illiterates that wants to erase histor

a reply to: marg6043


Morons and stupid illiterates are the only the face of this "movement". This is bigger than the civil war.

a reply to: marg6043

It's the same thinking that getting rid of hospitals will mean there won't be sick people any more.


Getting rid of symbols that have an association with racism won't eliminate racism.


People are idiots.

The sad thing about it, is, that this is the future of our nation, when certain minorities of any kind within our nations make over decide that they need to lobby hard enough thinking that erasing whatever is in history that they have targeted as Offensive will change their position in History.

Then you have the moron politicians that think is a good idea.

What a future, the new utopia. It sound like a twilight zone episode.

This have more dangerous meaning that many think.

a reply to: marg6043

No, no, no this is voluntary//sarc

a reply to: seasonal
Civil War?

Why, what is that?

See?

My memory has been erased.

I don't even remember Daisy Duke any more.

a reply to: butcherguy

Yes but do you remember being turned racist by the General Lee's roof?

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: butcherguy

Yes but do you remember being turned racist by the General Lee's roof?

What is a General Lee?
and, of course...
Who was General Lee?

I am pretty certain that the part about the previous existence of slavery will not be erased from my memory... they wouldn't want that to happen.

a reply to: seasonal

And the erasing of history continues.

In 50 yrs children will be taught / indoctrinated that the exclusively black northern forces bravely fought and defeated the exclusively evil white Republican southern forces to free them selves of White privilege, traditional gender roles, and to secure trans rights.