Loud Bangs heard in Manchester UK

a reply to: paraphi

I'm fearing a false-flag that will just give them more power ie. we're scared so we will offer up freedom for 'safety'.
Doesn't really matter, whats done is done, as unfortunate as it may be...

Keep your wits about you people - this one is sure to hit the English moral hard.

Good luck finding a new source willing to point out the truth of this situation.

A militant ISLAMIC attack, once again, on their 'enemies' the west.

The PC brigade can piss off at this point. What has defending a dangerous and radical ideology garnered you in the last 10 years? Anything good?

When was the last time a TRUE Christian blew himself up at a concert...... Flew a plane into a building.... Oh right, never.

The Koran TEACHES these people to do this, it literally tells them to kill infidels and heathens. There is NO way around this, and every 'good Muslim' we read about would be called a hypocrite by Muhammed. Christians who use violence EVER would be called a hypocrite by Christ and rebuked.

We're worlds apart here in reality and mixing us together will not work, they hate us (we're not allowed to hate), they hurt us (we're taught to turn the other cheek) and they lie to us (we're not allowed to lie)...... I'm so angry at our media and leaders here...

ISLAM is to blame for this. Full stop. Don't care what any PC nonsense comes my way. Don't even care if this post is removed. It's the religion of the devil.

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

How do you negotiate with individual nutters who are willing to blow themselves up?

errrr.... that is pretty much what i was saying.

You could sit down with the IRA, FARC, ETA and any number of other groups but its very difficult to do that when its not so much a identifiable group you are dealing with but a theology. Its much harder to fight against a idea than it is with a group.

We pretty much destroyed Al-Qa'ida but the ideals that they promoted still do and possibly always will exist.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Sorry I should have been clearer, I'm in absolute agreement with you.

a reply to: kerrichin

Apparently there are currently up to 73 separate ongoing investigations into grooming and sexual exploitation by people of Pakistani, Afghan, etc origin.
Most of the alleged victims come from poor, white, working class backgrounds etc.
Pressure is being put on the media not to report these investigations or to trivialise and minimise, all due to an apparent fear of backlashes.

In any other country this would never be tolerated.

Just how much are people expected to tolerate?

a reply to: Freeborn

Thank our stupidly left leaning educational institutions who'd rather look good on an 'official equality report' than actually educate their stupidly brainwashed students.

Once again I'm reminded of Yuri's testimony and his explanation of soviet era propaganda and conditioning of the youth to accept morally reprehensible acts. The gradual erosion of a nations heart, it's religious foundation and the total removal of God from both family and educational life.

We've brought this on ourselves, hoisted up by political protection Islam will now seek to take over our, once great, people.

I'm not a radical, I'm a Christian but I'm becoming increasingly agitated about being told to shut up every time I criticize this horrible, death cult of Islam.

a reply to: Joneselius

It's almost like we've forgotten our (Humans) history

Let's see....

1095–1291 - Christians were slaughtering non believers in the Middle East because, God willed it
1619-1833 - Christians were enslaving an entire race of humans they believed to be sub human
1861-1865 - Christians were killing each other in America in civil war because some favoured slavery, and others did not
1865 - today - Christians/non Christians still thinking an entire race is sub human and should be segregated from everybody else (racism)
1914-1918 - Christians/non Christians slaughtering each other in WW1
1938-1945 Christians/non Christians slaughtering each other in WW2
1938-1945 Germans (supposedly civilised) rounding up an entire religion of people and the disabled and gassing them in a bid to exterminate them entirely which we now call genocide
1950-1953 Christians/non Christians killing each other in Korea
1955-1975 Christians/non Christians killing each other in Vietnam

Need I go on ? Do you see a pattern emerging ? That's just a few instances of our (humans) history over the last 1,000 years

Humans enjoy killing humans, doesn't matter if they're Christian, Muslim, Communist, Capitalist, Atheist, they will find a reason to kill each other it's the only consistent thing humans have done since the dawn of humans

originally posted by: GreenGunther
a reply to: paraphi

I'm fearing a false-flag that will just give them more power ie. we're scared so we will offer up freedom for 'safety'.
Doesn't really matter, whats done is done, as unfortunate as it may be...

Keep your wits about you people - this one is sure to hit the English moral hard.

False flag? What need is there for a false flag when terrorists will gladly kill citizens anyway?
Pay attention!

a reply to: Joneselius

Lets declare war on 25% of the worlds population, lets herd them all up and do away with them, sound familiar?
There are no differences in how the body reacts to a detonation either by air or by ground, and its effects on others.
Take a look over the fence in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya and Yemen and you will have a clearer picture of why people resort such desperate acts.
But if there is a hell, these people (who take the lives of innocents) belong in it.
My heart goes out to the families of the victims.
edt for clarity.

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: Joneselius

Lets declare war on 25% of the worlds population.
There are no differences in how the body reacts to a detonation either by air or by ground.
Take a look over the fence in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Yemen and you will have a clearer picture of why people resort such desperate acts.

There is no excuse, and no clarity to understand such actions. It's mindless murder.

a reply to: Discotech

Last time Christians murdered other people in the name of Christianity was 800 years ago. Christianity evolved. Islam going backwards.

a reply to: szino9

Yet so called Christians have still murdered since the crusades

The point isn't about Christians, nor Muslims, it's that HUMANS kill other humans, doesn't matter what "tribe" they belong to when 2 tribes come to disagreement there will be death and destruction

It's saddening that people cannot see that this is the reality and are quick to forget our entire history of death and destruction and treat current events like its something that's never happened before

originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: szino9

Yet so called Christians have still murdered since the crusades

The point isn't about Christians, nor Muslims, it's that HUMANS kill other humans, doesn't matter what "tribe" they belong to when 2 tribes come to disagreement there will be death and destruction

It's saddening that people cannot see that this is the reality and are quick to forget our entire history of death and destruction and treat current events like its something that's never happened before

What the hell is your point?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: kerrichin

Apparently there are currently up to 73 separate ongoing investigations into grooming and sexual exploitation by people of Pakistani, Afghan, etc origin.
Most of the alleged victims come from poor, white, working class backgrounds etc.
Pressure is being put on the media not to report these investigations or to trivialise and minimise, all due to an apparent fear of backlashes.

In any other country this would never be tolerated.

Just how much are people expected to tolerate?

the way things are going i dont think they are going to take much more,that tv show on the bbc was very hard hitting, i never cry watching tv but i teared up watching those poor girls in court being called all manner of names while the men were being seen as victims. also now katie hopkins is being investigated for inciting race hate on twitter so thats riled people up even more.
i dont agree with alot of katie hopkins if fact i dislike her but investigating her for a twitter comment when people are still angry about yesterday is going to just make things worsekatie hopkins twitter

originally posted by: Freeborn

Pressure is being put on the media not to report these investigations or to trivialise and minimise, all due to an apparent fear of backlashes.

Sorry but this is an outright lie - Not a single incident of the press being told asked, demanded, issued a D8 notice or Reporting Restriction Order has occured.

A judge did issue one to stop four males being identified - however this was to protect Child G from being identified and no charges or evidence for the four males was ever presented in court - even then The Times took the Council to court to try and lift the injunction.

When they have been attempted - it's been in order to protect the victim of abuse from backlash and not to detter other victims from coming forward - not to protect the muslim community at large.

originally posted by: Discotech
It's saddening that people cannot see that this is the reality and are quick to forget our entire history of death and destruction and treat current events like its something that's never happened before

It's people like you with your mindset that bury the truth with your mindless lovey-dovey BS blabbering. You are talking about the Vietnam war and compare it to religious ideological murder?

It's pathetic to see how distanced from reality you are. How about you mention how naughty Christianity was in the crusades again? We're talking about nowdays. There is no other religion that indoctrinates it's own believers into sacrificing their lives in order to kill "non believers" (everyone else).

Oh I know what will make this all go away. How about you change your facebook pictures to a UK flag and petition to have more poor Islamic refugees in?

The denial some people live in! It seems like you would rather see your entire countrymen butchered before you would risk being labeled a 'racist' and admit the facts. Islam is killing Europe slowly but surely. If things don't get better or worse, you are not going to be here in the next century. But who cares right? We shouldn't even be pointing it out so we wouldn't be considered racists.

People like you are ISIS enablers

a reply to: Discotech

You forgot the fact that Islam is the only religion that hasn't undergone a reformation or enlightenment. It still follows the exact same tenets and dogma from when it was created in the 7th century. At least Christianity has evolved to co-exist with the modern world.

More on topic, police in Manchester have evacuated several of the University's buildings

a reply to: 1337Kph

Distanced from reality ? please you're the one spouting fascist views

There's billions of Muslims on this planet, we do not see billions of them blowing themselves up do we ?

It's not Islam at fault but the inherent nature of humans to kill each other over quite frankly petty disagreements.

I get it, you're probably Christian it's probably abhorrent for you to even begin to consider that your precious God has created such an imperfect evil species, but the reality is we are an evil species hell bent on destruction and God does not exist or if he does he certainly doesn't give a flying f*ck about his creations constantly killing each other for thousands of years.

Humans will kill each other regardless of their religion or belief, when they kill and do it in the name of "insert whatever the f*ck you want" it's just an excuse so they can feel righteous in their murder and not worry about the morality of actually murdering another human

There is no solution to what is human nature, we are no better than animals

a reply to: bastion

Sorry but this is an outright lie - .....

No it isn't.
There are far subtler, and even effective ways of suppressing news than those you list.
But when it is sold to the media as minimising the risk of public backlash then there are many editors etc who are prepared to go along with police advice.

I know it happened in my hometown a few years ago when there was one gang of Asians and another of eastern Europeans who were targeting girls.
The editor of the local newspaper was complicit in supressing the reporting of these cases, do you honestly think he is unique?

Do I think they are well intentioned?
Probably, but they are still misguided.

Got to go, the pub is calling and there's a pint glass with my name on it!