The Myth of Extraterrestrial Activity.

If you find your house trashed very likely the police will find the criminals "locally", the crimes resolved rate will decrease dramatically if they start looking for the criminals beyond earth...

Local occurrences usually have local causes and from seeing a local object is very hard and many times unsupported to assume its extraterrestrial origin, for starters we do not have a full knowledge of what is on this earth so how can we assume that something is not from it?

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a reply to: Jertens61

John Madden is that you?

a reply to: Jertens61

Actually It would be almost impossible for UFO's to be coming to Earth think about the physics and even the time involved with Travel. Yes I would like to believe. I'm just not convinced that they are coming from deep space- My opinion is that they have been here the whole time and inhabit the deep oceans.

a reply to: Jertens61

So you're attempting to again debunk observations that already constituted 90% of what was once summarized as "misidentifications" in Project Bluebook?

I recommend focusing on the "unknowns" then. When generalizing the way you do, you dismiss a lot of data without even looking at it. Or did I misinterpret your post?

Nice shots of some Mylar balloons there, but then you devolved into yet another wall of text screed against all of Ufology. Aren't you the same guy who just got his Greer thread removed? It seems you have not learned your lesson. This stuff really isn't very good, sadly. Showing us balloons then leaping to the idea that all of Ufology is a scam is very short-sighted and shows a lack of knowledge of the UFO field. If you want to build a case, by all means do so. Please learn to use paragraphs, though. This, however, is not contributing to the issue.

I like balloons

a reply to: cosmania

Yep I've seen those UFO's hit a transformer a couple of times think it opens a wormhole....

Give a thumb drive to a cro magnon and see how that works out...

To think we are alone considering the vastness of space is not only arrogant, it's ludicrous...

Whoever is out there may be millions, perhaps billion of years ahead of us technologically speaking....consider our scientific evolution in the last 10,000 years....now consider the feat we may yet achieve in the next 10 million years...let alone 10 billion...

Maybe they speak "human" and can greet us with the proverbial banana...



-Chris

a reply to: Jertens61

I don't accept any evidence for the existence of UFOs unless I am abducted and have conscious memories of the anal probe. I need direct evidence. Not all this second hand pictures of balloon BS.

originally posted by: schuyler
Nice shots of some Mylar balloons there, but then you devolved into yet another wall of text screed against all of Ufology. Aren't you the same guy who just got his Greer thread removed? It seems you have not learned your lesson. This stuff really isn't very good, sadly. Showing us balloons then leaping to the idea that all of Ufology is a scam is very short-sighted and shows a lack of knowledge of the UFO field. If you want to build a case, by all means do so. Please learn to use paragraphs, though. This, however, is not contributing to the issue.

All of ufology is against terrestrial origins?

I didnt know that.

Count me in as well.
I believe most, if not all UFOs are terrestrial in origin.

a reply to: Jertens61

Let's see, you may want to allow that an unknown object is extraterrestrial if it behaves in an extra-ordinary fashion. If it defies convention by shape, speed, stops suddenly, noiseless, hovers and/or makes violent course changes. Even more so it may be extraterrestrially assumed if it lands and leaves marks, is photographed, painted on radar or viewed by highly trained pilots and military people. Then there are those that see a funny shaped craft and report a time-loss experience with little grey folks. All bogus and wrong because, officially, the government claims that to be the case?

Also, we have things that are witnessed in near and far in space that suggest that they are extraterrestrial. Where are they from, mylar birthday balloons from Earth?

It is closed-mindedness to insist that there isn't anything strange out there when some of our top scientific programs these days at work trying to find signs of ETIs out there. Do you ever wonder why they are doing that? For what constructional purpose would they be wasting their time and our money?

a reply to: Jertens61

I could take you to a place in So. Colorado that not only would change your mind about UFOs, but change the way you view reality.

I have offed this challenge many times. No one has yet enough guts to accept my challenge. It's much more complex than nuts and bolts craft.
It's hard to separate the mystical from the mind control, inter dimensional aspect of the phenomenon.

a reply to: Jertens61

Based on the concept of the Universe being 'big' and this planet having an abundance of life I'm going to say that I believe we will eventually learn that we are not alone on this plane of existence and we share the universe with other intelligent and sentient lifeforms. They have likely been here since the creation of earth and form the basis for the planets religious encounters and subsequent scriptures. 70% of the planet is covered in water, some of it bloody deep and unexplored to this day.

Far too many people for far too long have eyewitnessed aerial phenomena (and underwater phenomena) and in more modern times investigation(s) by authorities have yielded no explanation and so until those particular encounters can be explained with very terrestrial evidence, then whatever remains, no matter how absurd, must be the truth.....

a reply to: olaru12

I would take your challenge but I live to far from Colorado besides I have already seen my share of ufo like objects so I don't need convincing. It sounds like a hotspot

The Earth is flat. Let us not forget that fact too according to the OP's logic. Also there is no such thing as extraterrestrials living in the entire expanse of the universe too.

$100 bucks I bet the OP gets abducted by said extraterrestrials for saying there isnt any.

a reply to: Jertens61


Well you have this. But these sort of sightings are just part of the whole large. Certainly cant be applied to the whole.

I am kinda confused. So is the video stating that all the objects at the 0:24 minute mark are all Boomerangs?

~Morpheus

originally posted by: blueyedevilwoman

originally posted by: schuyler
Nice shots of some Mylar balloons there, but then you devolved into yet another wall of text screed against all of Ufology. Aren't you the same guy who just got his Greer thread removed? It seems you have not learned your lesson. This stuff really isn't very good, sadly. Showing us balloons then leaping to the idea that all of Ufology is a scam is very short-sighted and shows a lack of knowledge of the UFO field. If you want to build a case, by all means do so. Please learn to use paragraphs, though. This, however, is not contributing to the issue.

All of ufology is against terrestrial origins? I didnt know that.

Count me in as well.
I believe most, if not all UFOs are terrestrial in origin.

I didn't mean to say that (and I think you already know that.) Showing us a couple of balloons does not account for all UFO sightings. The point here is that OP has not done a very good job of articulating the UFO issue, but seems more hell bent on accusing "traditional Ufology" of being a total scam. There's no doubt in my mind as well that most UFOs are simply mis-identifcations coupled with wishful thinking. But it doesn't seem logical to me to dismiss all of Ufology with that theme or to claim that all of Ufology is a "scam." That is really doing a disservice to the many people who have invested serious time and effort into the issue and are not motivated by money. To claim everyone is is a cheap shot and does not contribute to the field. It is completely simplistic and superficial. If you were familiar with OP's other threads on the topic you would know that is his M.O. He really doesn't have much to contribute and what he does is inarticulate.

originally posted by: SolAquarius
a reply to: olaru12

I would take your challenge but I live to far from Colorado besides I have already seen my share of ufo like objects so I don't need convincing. It sounds like a hotspot

It's much more than a ufo hotspot. Some of my experiences there have been so surreal and "crossover" it's hard to explain.

The only way to fully explain many abduction accounts is actually that these are the work of "extraterrestrial" entities.

Your thread premise is wrong.