Why I think the Russians like Trump...

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: AnonyMason

The president is the boss of FBI. FBI is a bureau of DOJ. DOJ is a department of the federal exec branch. The president is the boss of the federal exec branch.

The reason there is a several months from election day and inauguration day is because it gives FBI sufficient time to do a check on the winner candidate.

FBI is never supposed to investigate the president. That's the job of private investigators.

really? and what exactly could the fbi do if they found the elected president unworthy of ts clearance? he's still the president and so long as he doesnt do anything wrong he's still in need of all that ts intel. are they to deny him the info he needs because he didnt pass their background check?

the majority of congress doesnt have ts clearance, but they still have access to ts material because of their jobs. there's exceptions to everything, even ts clearance.

originally posted by: rickymouse
How much is this special council going to cost the taxpayers? I would bet it will cost many millions to find the same as the

less than the 8 benghazi hearings?

originally posted by: stormson
With the firestorm around Trump and the Russians raging, now would be the perfect time for the Russians to release some intel on Trump, real or fake, if they wanted him removed that is.

See, if the Russians didn't like Trump and wanted him removed, all they would have to do is make some stuff up and let the American media do its thing. Yet they have done nothing. That raises more red flags for me than anything the media does.

By remaining silent, the Russians are allowing Trump to spin his way out of any collusion by claiming a "witch-hunt". With no evidence, the MSM is making itself look foolish. Either way, Trump can come out of this stronger than ever.

So why aren't the Russians trying to take him down? Whether or not Trump actually had anything to do with Russia is irrelevant considering that if Russia were to release even fake intel it would damage Trump beyond repair.

The only thing I can think of is that they like Pence even less than Trump.

Trump being president has caused chaos in the states, this is great for russia. The less united we are the more strength the russians have on the world stage. They love the fact he's president , they love the fact that our media attacks him and they love the fact that we are divided as a nation.

a reply to: stormson

FBI does the check in the election season and between November 8 election day and January 20 inauguration day. That's a sufficient time. Any crime or treason would be discovered during the election and certainly before inauguration day. In the rare event it's not found during this time, private investigators are free to continue any investigation.

a reply to: allsee4eye

So you're also ignoring the ongoing investigation?

Sure Trump's not a target. But do you think the Director of the FBI would tell him if he was? Doesn't make a lot of sense to expose yourself to the guy in charge of the people you're investigating. Thats not how the intelligence business works.

a reply to: stormson

Part of what you said makes perfect logical sense. If the Russians wanted to hurt President Trump, throwing even small morsels of Trump-meat into the MSM cage would trigger a crazy feeding frenzy. The craziness we've experienced this week from the liberal media over the NYT/WaPo Fake, drummed-up LIES, would seem tame by comparison.

a reply to: AnonyMason

Now is not the correct time for investigation. Investigation is supposed to be during the election season from June 2015 to November 8, 2016 and between election day November 8, 2016 and inauguration day January 20, 2017.

There are clear procedures. FBI is not supposed to investigate the president every day for 8 years. That's now what FBI was built for.

a reply to: allsee4eye

There is no time limit for an on going investigation. To say such shows how little you know about the way the FBI works.

These people will spend 3-5 years placing an informant in a biker club. You think they're going to rush investigating the Presiden'ts campaign officials/administration?

Please.

a reply to: allsee4eye

If there's probably cause for it, the FBI will spend all the time they feel necessary.

a reply to: AnonyMason

Only if there is evidence, otherwise it is sedition and the president can fire the director. If FBI find nothing during the election season and between election day and inauguration day, FBI is not supposed to do any further investigation unless the situation is very extraordinary.

a reply to: allsee4eye

HAHA

He has to find another one to take the job first.

No one wants it because he just fired the last Director.

What planet are you living on?

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: stormson

FBI does the check in the election season and between November 8 election day and January 20 inauguration day. That's a sufficient time. Any crime or treason would be discovered during the election and certainly before inauguration day. In the rare event it's not found during this time, private investigators are free to continue any investigation.

thats not how ts clearance works.

they check everything! they send people out to talk to your neighbors. they check your references and then have to do "discovered contacts" (where they get names from your references you didnt put down) and talk to them. they talk to people at your job, and every job youve had for the last 7-10 years. they check your family members. they check distant family members you see twice a year. they arent looking for crimes, but suspicion of immorality, untrustworthiness, or ways that a foreign gov can compromise you.

a friend of mine was turned down for ts because his wife was born in russia (she came to the states when she was 2) and still had family over there (that she never saw, btw). he was just a joe tho. there are exceptions made the higher your status. business dealings are a good example. a middle manager would be excluded even tho his job required russian contact, it would be assumed he would need the money. a ceo would be excepted due to his status. it would be assumed "he has money, why would he turn?"

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: AnonyMason

Only if there is evidence, otherwise it is sedition and the president can fire the director. If FBI find nothing during the election season and between election day and inauguration day, FBI is not supposed to do any further investigation unless the situation is very extraordinary.

Do you think this is extraordinary? I think it is...

www.washingtonpost.com...

a reply to: AnonyMason

Fbi done got fired lol

a reply to: olaru12

Everything is done according to procedure. FBI does not investigate unless there is evidence. Otherwise it can be considered obstruction to governing, and that is sedition. With today's technology, any crime can be uncovered in 2 years which is how long candidates spend between start of election and inauguration day.

If FBI investigation the president during the midterm congress election after 3 years of investigation with no result, then that is obstruction to election and sedition.

Contrary to what many think, FBI is not king. FBI doesn't get to investigate whoever they like for however long they like.

There are time limits to everything. If you do a test that's allocated 1 hour. After 1 hour, the teacher will snatch away your test regardless if you finished or not. FBI has time limits. FBI is not king. FBI does not do whatever it wants.

a reply to: allsee4eye

The President isn't king, either.

Nothing you've said is based in fact.

The Department of Justice essentially has as long as it feels it needs to investigate whatever they want.

Regardless of your opinion the FBI works directly for DOJ and the DNI. The president may have authority to fire and hire (with the backing of the Senate in the latter case) but the FBI doesn't work for POTUS.

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: olaru12

Everything is done according to procedure. FBI does not investigate unless there is evidence. Otherwise it can be considered obstruction to governing, and that is sedition. With today's technology, any crime can be uncovered in 2 years which is how long candidates spend between start of election and inauguration day.

If FBI investigation the president during the midterm congress election after 3 years of investigation with no result, then that is obstruction to election and sedition.

Contrary to what many think, FBI is not king. FBI doesn't get to investigate whoever they like for however long they like.

just about everything you wrote is wrong.

they investigate based on suspicion, to gather evidence. an investigation is not obstruction or sedition.

white collar crimes can take years to figure out, and its usually discovered based on a pattern of behavior, which also can take years to figure out.

you are right about time periods tho. investigating for years just based on suspicion is a no go. the investigators have to justify their work to their superiors. it's their bosses that say yay or nay to continuing an investigation based on evidence or patterns uncovered.

a reply to: AnonyMason

The president and FBI are both not king. The president is FBI's boss. FBI may investigate the president, only if there is ample evidence that FBI did not come across in the election season.

a reply to: allsee4eye

There are time limits to everything. If you do a test that's allocated 1 hour. After 1 hour, the teacher will snatch away your test regardless if you finished or not. FBI has time limits. FBI is not king. FBI does not do whatever it wants.

Then the FBI will just slide it over to the CIA being as how it's a International crime. The NSA will volunteer all the evidence they have collected as well.

The CIA does whatever it wants because it's the CIA and that's the way they roll....

originally posted by: allsee4eye
a reply to: AnonyMason

The president and FBI are both not king. The president is FBI's boss. FBI may investigate the president, only if there is ample evidence that FBI did not come across in the election season.

thats just not true. the pres can hire and fire the fbi director, but he has no power to interfere with a case. hes not in the direct chain of command, per se.

the pres is in charge of the military, but he cant just walk on a base and bring a joe up on charges. he has to go through that joes chain of command, starting at the top general and going down.

granted it will take some pretty rock solid suspicion to get the fbi to investigate the pres, but they arent bound by election dates. they just follow the threads, regardless of time, till they can say "nope, nothing here".