Is our presence in Afghanistan related to the amount of heroin killing our youth??

We have a multi thousand troop presence in Afghanistan to this day and 90% of heroin in the US comes from Afghanistan through Mexico. You would think the cartels would be listed as a terrorist organization for working with the Taliban and ISIS to move their heroin into the US.

Here's where America's heroin comes from

Heroin consumed in the US comes mainly from Afghanistan and Mexico, members of the UN's International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), said in Mexico City on Wednesday, March 2.

Article from 2016 but that's besides the point.

The question you should be asking yourself is why do we have a continued presence in Afghanistan and how does their heroin get into our country in such large volumes and how much money does it generate for terrorist?

So if any of you are heroin addicts know you are funding ISIS, the Taliban and massive atrocity in the Middle East. You have blood on your hands.

Afghan warlord returns to Kabul after nearly 20 years

Oh suddenly look who returns... an Afghan warlord! Just in time to ramp up the war effort! The CIA must need money for something black budget.... they must increase their presence in the ME, but why?

(CNN)One of Afghanistan's most notorious warlords Gulbuddin Hekmatyar has returned to the Afghan capital Kabul after nearly two decades in exile, reported Tolo, an Afghan news agency.

The return of Hekmatyar, a former prime minister, comes eight months after the government signed a peace deal with representatives of Hezb-e-Islami -- the insurgent faction led by the warlord.

Apparently there is a massive nationalist movement happening in Afghanistan and they want us out. Looks like we will be going back to war.

(but for what?)

Why are we still there?

The Iran-Contra Affair

Ronald Reagan's efforts to eradicate Communism spanned the globe, but the insurgent Contras' cause in Nicaragua was particularly dear to him. Battling the Cuban-backed Sandinistas, the Contras were, according to Reagan, "the moral equivalent of our Founding Fathers." Under the so-called Reagan Doctrine, the CIA trained and assisted this and other anti-Communist insurgencies worldwide.

While the rest of your are paying attention to how many scoops of ice cream Trump had on his taco's and how many poops he took yesterday and how many wipes he used to clean his butt big things are happening behind the scenes.

Trump serves as a fantastic opportunity to keep the masses divided and docile while big strings are being pulled behind the scenes.

Time to wake back up and start paying attention to whats really happening.

Every week someone on my timeline dies to heroin or someone I know's family member and times to cut the head off of the snake.

Excellent thread and points.

To me it's been obvious for years. I have lost plenty of friend to that damn heroin... I look at the rise in pharmaceuticals and their availability..

most of my peers started by getting Vicodin or Codien from our parents med cabinet.. 10 years later OxyContin and all sorts of crap flood the market... problem is it's expensive as all getout and theirs too many Middle men!

Heroin is cheap and straight from the CIA ! Jackpot!

Sadly it's ruined many lives in my area and I'm lucky the # was never for me.

I think your question posed in the title is a no brainer YES!
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I agree on every point. Every drug "epidemic" in the US since the 50's has been a direct result of CIA support: psychedelics in the 50's and 60's, coc aine in the 70's and 80's and now heroin. It's clear, the drug war, like the war on terrorism, has nothing to do with US interests and has everything to do with $$$ and control. IT IS TIME TO DECRIMINALIZE ALL DRUGS. Portugal has done it, drug use is now considered a health issue and not a criminal one. Their addiction rates have gone down.

Someone didn't like my post on this thread. My network went down. Opened up Wireshark after rebooting my network to monitor traffic and my pc had an IP address conflict.

Very odd.

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Hmmm...
Hidden in plain sight?
No Comment.

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IT IS TIME TO DECRIMINALIZE ALL DRUGS.

But if we do that they lose all black budget funding and the prisons are empty.

How will they fund ISIS?

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most of my peers started by getting Vicodin or Codien from our parents med cabinet.. 10 years later OxyContin and all sorts of crap flood the market... problem is it's expensive as all getout and theirs too many Middle men!

This is how they get everyone hooked.

Now they have unlimited funds for the boogiemen in Syria and Afghanistan.

Heroin is so passe..everybody dying from Fentanyl now, that is brought to us courtesy of China.
I'm not even kidding about the # of people dying, 3 or 4 a day here in the Vancouver area, going on a couple of years now.

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Amen. We are on the same page brother.

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Same here, my town got featured on an NBC article as the heroin capital of the US and the most miserable place in the US to live.

No joke every week.

Half of everyone I grew up with is in rehab. I lucked out and joined the military and found a passion.

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Yes good, you need a passion in life..and one needs hope as well, without hope it all goes downhill fast..potentially.

I've heard first hand from armed forces members that the U.S. helps to guard certain farms in Afghanistan that only grow poppies, as well as aid in escorts to and from said farms. They had no reason to lie to me, and their stories seemed genuine (I like to think i have a good BS meter).

I've seen far too many friends die from h, but even more from fentanyl, and im only in my mid twenties. I know there will be more. Its what forced me to whip myself into shape and get clean. The only people i want shedding tears at my funeral are my great grandkids... Not classmates I have yet to share my first highschool reunion with.

Our country is infected with a most crippling disease, and no one person will be left uneffected.

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It's an epidemic if there ever was one, I was messed up for about 3 years..that ended about 14 years ago I picked myself up and have not looked back.

originally posted by: toysforadults
Is our presence in Afghanistan related to the amount of heroin killing our youth??

Probably not as much as 'our' lousy parenting.

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Sometime ago I read an article which I think was in a post on this site. Of the few things I remember is that:

90-95% of all hard drugs that enter the US originate from South America and 95-98% of all hard drugs that enter Europe originate from Afghanastan.

Funny how that coincides with the US having a strong military presence in both places.

Coincidence, the word we use when we can’t see the levers and pulleys – Emma Bull.

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So if any of you are heroin addicts know you are funding ISIS, the Taliban and massive atrocity in the Middle East. You have blood on your hands.

Oh man. The idea of dirt poor street addicts being responsible for ISIS and the Taliban is so dumb. Cokeheads to blame for Mexican cartels? Blood on their hands?

Afghani farmers can grow what they want and poppies make more cash than food produce.

Your war on drugs inflates prices. There's a worldwide market that doesn't go away. Supply and demand.

Decriminalise and control the trade. Cut out cartels. Use tax codes not jail time. Treat it like alcohol.

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I know too many addicts. Too many people that got hooked because they sprained their knee and a doctor gave them oxy's. Too many kids went to war and came back suffering and found comfort in heroin.

We absolutely re-opened Afghanistan to the heroin trade.

As Silverowls said. Decriminalization is an easy fix.

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Same. Lost buddies to it. Not dead, they'd steal and lie. Kids taken off them.

Decriminalisation offers best bet to reduce the chaos and misery of addiction. Less poor on poor crime. Fewer prisoners. More families.

It's an addiction not a moral choice.

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The thing now is elephant tranquilizers getting cut with smack. Fentanyl was bad enough. It's time we had a national discussion. Daily I see people succumbing to their addictions.

No one does this to themselves purposely.

What about Iboga weekend ordered by court? Or at least donated. I was touched by this man's story.

How A Schizophrenic Drug Addict Reclaimed His Life With Iboga

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