New Study - Transgender myth exposed - a mental disorder.

a reply to: kaylaluv

, there is increasing evidence that it is a discrepancy between how the brain develops and how the body develops. It is believedthat this happens in utero (in the womb).

So it is faith and the new religion of Science with no facts that you base your claims on. In other words your "religion"

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: kaylaluv

They are not being obtuse...you sugar coat the fact that there is a trend to normalize worrying trends

Incest next...

Wouldn't a woman wanting to marry her son be a "hetero trend"? I guess that slippery slope happened when we allowed hetero people to get married.

I warned everybody back then. Nobody listened. Now we have incestuous hetero couples running amok.

Have you guys heard of "Body Integrity Identity Disorder"/

en.wikipedia.org...

It's where a person feels a need to amputate a limb, because somehow they don't feel psychologically like the limb belongs there. Many of them follow through and amputate.


I imagine that the feeling is kind of like how you might feel if you had a third arm. Only one of these people might feel that way about having two arms.




Anyway, I just thought I'd throw this into the mix. See how it affects the discussion about people who similarly feel their body is anatomically the wrong gender.

I suspect we would find that both disorders have the same cause.

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: SeaYote

That is a nice hippie sentiment, but your body and your clothes are two different things, no? In the real world it matters what your body looks like. Try going out dressed like the opposite gender from what you are, you might find that there's more to being a man or woman than clothes."

"Nice hippie sentiment" is rather dismissive of you. Your body, NOT your clothes, is exactly the point - not being comfortable in your own skin. I have compassion for how that feels; you have no idea of the range of experience I have and who I have known and loved with varying degrees of self discomfort...People I've known who went through the whole gender transition surgery and were still miserable, and were left with major lifelong health issues from the hormones and medical procedures.

I say again, no amount of surgery is going to make anyone "perfect" --- At the end of the day, you have to come to terms with whatever body you're walking around in.

We'd have a far healthier world if our culture would teach us to embrace the gifts we are born with rather than the constant bombardment of messages that we are inadequately endowed, too fat, too skinny, not sexy enough, not feminine enough, not masculine enough...blah blah blah.

The body you are born into is a gift - that's not some hippie dippy thing.

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originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
Have you guys heard of "Body Integrity Identity Disorder"/

en.wikipedia.org...

It's where a person feels a need to amputate a limb, because somehow they don't feel psychologically like the limb belongs there. Many of them follow through and amputate.


I imagine that the feeling is kind of like how you might feel if you had a third arm. Only one of these people might feel that way about having two arms.




Anyway, I just thought I'd throw this into the mix. See how it affects the discussion about people who similarly feel their body is anatomically the wrong gender.

I suspect we would find that both disorders have the same cause.

It doesn't affect the topic for anybody who's researched the two. Totally different things, completely different pathologies and causes.

Body integrity disorder is akin to anorexia. It's not seeing your body for how it really is. Transsexuals are tragically aware of what their bodies are like.

I brought it up because it allows us to look at the issue without the issue of "sin" being involved. Wanting to cut off a limb isn't the result of someone's lustful perversions.

And yet it would be silly to argue that the one is possible, but the other isn't.

It's not an "all or nothing" question. Where either all who seek transgender surgery must unanimously be motivated by a body image disorder similar to "Body Integrity Identity Disorder", or none of them be motivated by it.

What if 1,000 people are simply confused, but 1 is suffering from "Body Integrity Identity Disorder". Should we lump them together and make them all fit into the same mold?

a reply to: Abysha

I guess that slippery slope happened when we allowed hetero people to get married

ah I see...laugh it all off....nothing to see here....

I think many people who seek transgender surgery are just stating a preference. Just like how on many MMO's you may find a person playing a female character, and trying to pretend they are really female.

Last time I was in a porn shop, there was a sizeable section dedicated to "she male" fetish. I can't imagine there are enough people with a serious gender identity disorder to motivate a business to keep that much porn in stock. The majority of watchers are probably just people who've watched too much hentai and can't get turned on by normal porn anymore.



However..... that doesn't mean ALL people who want gender reassignment are just confused, or indulging a perversion or anything like that.

There might be some who have a more serious motivation.

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
I think many people who seek transgender surgery are just stating a preference. Just like how on many MMO's you may find a person playing a female character, and trying to pretend they are really female.

Last time I was in a porn shop, there was a sizeable section dedicated to "she male" fetish. I can't imagine there are enough people with a serious gender identity disorder to motivate a business to keep that much porn in stock.

You'd be surprised. A LOT of men love that kind of porn. I know because so many go out of their way to tell me this as if it's a sweet pick-up line.

Trans women are the punch-in-public/bang-in-private type of women in a lot of conservative places. Soooo glad I moved.

i couldn't be assed reading yet another pointless thread of ignorance and flippant cruelty
just wanted to know if anyone has pointed out
in response to the first sentence of the OP

you're right, you can't choose your gender
which is why we transition
because we can't go on pretending to be something we're not

do you honestly think anyone would choose to spend their entire life fighting the eternal waking nightmare so many of you insist on trying to turn our lives into?

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: DeathSlayer

Dayum...that song made my pecker jump off and run under the couch to hide.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Well.
That about addresses this medical issue properly.
Instead of, Cut scene Laboratory:
" Herr Docktor, I have a perfect female
body, but I wish to be a man".

Ah Ha!, It'z be no problem, vee vill carve you up into
zee new perfeckt body zoot zuit. Und zee Taxpayer vill
foot za bill!
You shall be svinging a big wanger in no time. Ya Vol!
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me sterilization toolz?

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S&F

a reply to: kaylaluv

And thousands of peers who disagree with him.

Cite 50 then.

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
a reply to: kaylaluv

And thousands of peers who disagree with him.

Cite 50 then.

Keep reading. She literally cited thousands.

But does that matter? No. So why do you even ask?

This isn't a new "study" by someone who is long time against it:

He opposes sex reassignment surgery for transgender people.[16] In 1979, he shut down the gender identity clinic at Johns Hopkins, explaining that a study found that most of the people who had undergone this type of surgery "had much the same problems with relationships, work, and emotions as before. The hope that they would emerge now from their emotional difficulties to flourish psychologically had not been fulfilled."[17] He has said that medical treatment for transgender youth is “like performing liposuction on an anorexic child”,[18] described post-operative transgender women as “caricatures of women” because the surgery failed to change many of their male traits,[17] and stated that “The transgendered suffer a disorder of 'assumption.'”[16] McHugh considers homosexuality to be an “erroneous desire”[19] and supported California Proposition 8.[20] He co-authored a criticism of medical treatment for transgender youth[21] published by the American College of Pediatricians.

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Breakingschritiannews is using it for what reason now?

wrg

Here's a random stance on the subject. Don't know if anyone has said anything about this.

I believe in reincarnation. I believe we all have had hundreds of lives if not thousands. I think all of our souls are a little different. Some have been female a lot more so they are very feminine, some have been male many times so they are more masculine. Some have a balance of male and female so they are comfortable either way. And there is everything in between.

Don't get mad at me I'm not sure i believe this, its just a thought i've played with for a while.

But this is why we have straight, gay, bi, transgender, pan, all the different sexual orientations, whatever they are.
This might also be why we see people using plastic surgery to turn themselves into aliens, and lizards, and demon things, frog people, snake people, etc...

We chose to come to this life before we were born to learn specific lessons and have specific feelings. Those lessons might not be learned if you decide to have a sex change. Or maybe that is the lesson. Who knows?

None of this really bothers me at all, I have a couple transgenders that eat at my restaurant and they are really nice.

a reply to: booyakasha

Exactly. Who the hell cares? Only the far right Fumanmenalist Christians go nuts over this for some reason. They want to "save your soul", whatever that means. Believe me I've been there.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

oh yeah, i forgot about that aspect. So strange.

So angry at others for their own delusions.

I've noticed whenever someone is putting someone else down it is always a reflection of their own insecurities. always.

originally posted by: booyakasha
a reply to: Deaf Alien

oh yeah, i forgot about that aspect. So strange.

So angry at others for their own delusions.

I've noticed whenever someone is putting someone else down it is always a reflection of their own insecurities. always.

Bingo. Like Ted Haggard.