Hanford Nuclear tunnel collapases.

Given contaminated cooling water was dumped back into the river during it's operational days, most of what goes on won't be any worse.

a reply to: Violater1

This has been an catastrophe waiting to happen for years, my thread from five years ago:
Hanford, WA: Monunental Cleanup at Hanford Nuclear Waste Site

Gotta wonder if ANY cleanup has happened in the last FIVE years

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Violater1

This has been an catastrophe waiting to happen for years:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

WOW...you wrote this 5 years ago, and nothing happened. Oroville Dam, ready to explode and it was reported that the spillway cracked in 2013. Too many social programs and not enough returned to the infrastructure.

a reply to: Violater1

Scary, huh?

I saw your thread....and Hanford rang a bell....hard to believe that the problem has been known for so long ...and they either drag their feet....or do nothing.

Brent and Armand from BLM came up to the house to find out what we knew and the county sheriff called our cattle boss to find out what he knows.

Anna King is doing good local reporting if you would like to follow her reports.

@AnnaKingN3 she is updating info as she gets it and is on local TV and radio.

So either nothing serious is going on:"just another Hanford F*up" (which are many and unending)...

Or we are all out of the loop because we only live and work here...

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Violater1

Scary, huh?

I saw your thread....and Hanford rang a bell....hard to believe that the problem has been known for so long ...and they either drag their feet....or do nothing.

Yes it is.
ATS Mod Seagull lives close to Hanford. I hope they can give us a local update and not something polluted from the MSM (Marxist State Media).

originally posted by: rickymouse
We shouldn't be creating this kind of dangerous stuff if we cannot make it safe when we are finished. Handing this mess down to future generations is not acceptable. People running things are not too smart, they allowed these kind of things to be done, it should have been done right years ago or we should have never started using nuclear energy

We have a facility to store this stuff. Yucca Mountain was over engineered, and capable of storing waste for at least 50-100 years (time enough to get a space elevator).

Blame Congress, they built it and then defunded it.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: rickymouse
We shouldn't be creating this kind of dangerous stuff if we cannot make it safe when we are finished. Handing this mess down to future generations is not acceptable. People running things are not too smart, they allowed these kind of things to be done, it should have been done right years ago or we should have never started using nuclear energy

We have a facility to store this stuff. Yucca Mountain was over engineered, and capable of storing waste for at least 50-100 years (time enough to get a space elevator).

Blame Congress, they built it and then defunded it.

Yucca mountain is a temporary storage area, a very expensive one. It just makes sure that the materials will not have to be dealt with by our generation. We should be paying our bills as we make them.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: rickymouse
We shouldn't be creating this kind of dangerous stuff if we cannot make it safe when we are finished. Handing this mess down to future generations is not acceptable. People running things are not too smart, they allowed these kind of things to be done, it should have been done right years ago or we should have never started using nuclear energy

We have a facility to store this stuff. Yucca Mountain was over engineered, and capable of storing waste for at least 50-100 years (time enough to get a space elevator).

Blame Congress, they built it and then defunded it.

I think it's high time that President Trump gets involved.

a reply to: dianajune

With all due respect, WTF do you think he can bring to the table at this point? Keep on mind that the people around here refer to Hanford as "Nagasaki's Revenge"...this is a big messy problem that goes back 80 years

originally posted by: rickymouse
Yucca mountain is a temporary storage area, a very expensive one. It just makes sure that the materials will not have to be dealt with by our generation. We should be paying our bills as we make them.

I won't deny Hanford is a mess, truth is Yucca still wouldn't solve it. But, nuclear is still the safest form of power generation we have. Take a look at the death print of various energy sources. Nuclear is by far the safest, it just has the most visible mishaps.

originally posted by: dianajune
I think it's high time that President Trump gets involved.

He did. His budget proposal cuts superfund funding, which means less clean up dollars for Hanford.

a reply to: Aazadan

There have never been enough voters here for any politician to give a tinkers-damn what happens here.

The latest info from The Spokesman - Review,
“Emergency responders are out there to make sure the site remains secure,” said Destry Henderson, spokesman for the Hanford Site Emergency Operation Center. “Folks are meeting to develop a recovery plan.”

But exactly how the hole, estimated at 400 square feet, will be plugged or covered – and how long that will take – remained unclear Tuesday. Officials said they are exploring placing a barrier between the contaminated equipment inside and the outside air without causing the hole to grow bigger.

“Certainly the cleanup includes technical challenges and hazards,” Henderson said. “Sometimes you run into unexpected situations like this and our employees are figuring out a path forward to deal with it.” The Spokesman - Review is on 999 West Riverside Avenue, Spokane WA 99201.
www.spokesman.com...

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: rickymouse
Yucca mountain is a temporary storage area, a very expensive one. It just makes sure that the materials will not have to be dealt with by our generation. We should be paying our bills as we make them.

I won't deny Hanford is a mess, truth is Yucca still wouldn't solve it. But, nuclear is still the safest form of power generation we have. Take a look at the death print of various energy sources. Nuclear is by far the safest, it just has the most visible mishaps.

Price tag on the Fukishima cleanup is estimated to be 190 billion dollars. Thats if you can put a price tag on it. How much will it cost to clean up Hanford?

A wikipage page states an estimates 113 billion still to go. How much has already been spent?

Citing the 2014 Hanford Lifecycle Scope Schedule and Cost report, the 2014 estimated cost of the remaining Hanford clean up is $113.6 billion – more than $3 billion per year for the next six years, with a lower cost projection of approximately $2 billion per year until 2046.

originally posted by: Leonidas
a reply to: dianajune

With all due respect, WTF do you think he can bring to the table at this point? Keep on mind that the people around here refer to Hanford as "Nagasaki's Revenge"...this is a big messy problem that goes back 80 years

If there is enough of a public outcry about this issue, and esp. if it gets worse at Hanford, our Potus will have no choice but to respond. At the risk of sounding like Captain Obvious, this merits more attention than that wall (which is important imo but that belongs to another thread).

a reply to: D8Tee

You can't put a price on either one; neither can be 'cleaned up' beyond attempted containment. Physically impossible.

Fukushima, however, is outputting orders of magnitude more radiation than Hanford, and is totally uncontained. The cores are reacting inside the bedrock with direct access to the Pacific Ocean. Hanford is imbibed with residual radiation and completely contained (assuming no leak from the rail cars).

TheRedneck

These were more bunkers then tunnels.

These were concrete arches pored in place and then covered with earth like explosive magazines with rail run down them.

These were built for temporary storage till a permanent storage area could be found like Yucca Mountain Nuclear Waste Repository that was never opened.

For this you can 100% blame the democrats that have blocked every place for permanent storage of waste.

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Violater1

Scary, huh?

I saw your thread....and Hanford rang a bell....hard to believe that the problem has been known for so long ...and they either drag their feet....or do nothing.

I'm afraid it's the do nothing.
It's been less than 18 hours and it has already been swept under the rug.
BTW, thank you for the Applause!