The Stigmatization Of The "Loner."

i used to have lots of friends.

til i killed them all and now im a loner.

a reply to: HeathenJessie

No. Sorry, but what you are is a prick. A bully. A ego-maniacal ass who gets his jollies hurting people.

Minor local celeb? Is that what you think? Guess you miss the pointing and eye-rolling.

Notorious hardman? In your own mind, that's probably the case... Nope. You're just a bullying little prick.

I wonder why Fug isn't calling Jessie out. Very interesting, don't you think?

a reply to: TarzanBeta

Fug is scared of him.

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
I wonder why Fug isn't calling Jessie out. Very interesting, don't you think?

The odds of two narcissistic trolls in the same thread aren't out of the question, but I'd be hard-pressed to not consider them to be the same person button-pushing for their e-peen stroking at this rate.

I betcha if we bring up both profiles and keep an eye on the online/offline times, one will ALWAYS be offline while the other is online, and the logins & logoffs will follow each other like a pendulum swinging back & forth.

a reply to: hephalump

How dare you judge and insult me, you ought to be held accountable for that outburst - you don't even know me! You've no right branding me a bully in such a public fashion.

I did other, much worse stuff...you don't even know the half of it. Probably the worst thing what I did was to my best friend not long after we both graduated from high school.

He had a very old, pewter flask that had been given to him I think by his grandfather, or from his father who was given it by a grandfather or something, I can't remember but something stupid like that. It was really old, hand engraved with a really cool, intricate design and worth a lot of money. Very heavy and it took pride of place in his living room.

I went over one weekend and we were drinking for two days and playing computer games and amateur wrestling 'round his back yard - there was me, him and a few other mates, about 6 or 7 of us in total. I woke up on the Sunday and some people had gone, my friend and a few others' were lying around sleeping, so I took the flask from the mantlepiece and left.

Later he called me, accusing me of having stolen it. I said I hadn't, that it was gone when I woke up. He said he knew that wasn't true as he was still awake when the others' had left while I was asleep and it was still there before he went to sleep.

So I went over to my mothers and hid the flask in her house, then I beat myself up and stabbed myself in the buttocks and called the police and said that my friend had come to my house, angry, accusing me of the theft before stabbing me.

He was arrested and even got beaten up by the police. The case wet to court but somehow they worked out that I did it to myself and I got community service. He did lose his job and by that time his girlfriend had left him and his family had stopped talking to him. He lost his flat and had to move in with Tommy, but Tommy kicked him out because he was eating all of his food and not paying any rent.

So in some regard I was unhappy because my plan didn't work out like I expected and I was happy because my friend had gotten his just desserts. A big bonus was he seemed to no longer care about his flask and I got £200 for it, which I spent on sweets and fags and that.

a reply to: HeathenJessie

You're doing a lot of admitting. That's fine if you don't want to be judged. I consider you might be actually providing material that disproves Fug's ideas.

But you shouldn't be surprised if people have a hard time digesting what stories you're telling... That's why you're telling them.

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: SpeakerofTruth

So, its quite evident that a lot of loners on this forum have become butt-hurt about realising that mabey there ways of antisocialism cause other decent law abiding people to become suspicious.

To the decent law abiding people among us (myself included) it's surprising that you didn't already realise this.

You still haven't explained why you feel this way.

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: SpeakerofTruth
But whats particuarly suprising is that so many self righteuos loners actually seem to think there behavior is virtuous. Well, to them I say it isn't.

What a compelling argument...

It has nothing to do with Virtue. So far, from what I have read from people in this thread that claim to be Introverts, they are just explaining why they feel uncomfortable in social settings and how being less involved with others simply works for them.

What does that have to do with proclaiming to be virtuous?

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: SpeakerofTruth
Its time to join society and stop skulking and sulking in the shadows. If you want to think, think. But think while you work. And quit comparing yourself to Steve Jobs and Tesla.

No one here is comparing themselves to either of them. you made several claims that directly accused people who are introverts as "non-thinking useless beings" we presented you introverts that have moved humanity forward dramatically.

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: SpeakerofTruth
Now I shall propose that we agree to disagree, or better yet, agree with me and stop hurling the caustics about like a 2 year old having a tantrum.

Disagree with what? You still have yet to explain your position.

originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: SpeakerofTruth
All you lone wolfs, join the back and start acting like the american-made team players you are!

Firstly, I despise patriotism, and I'm also not American. Secondly, Why must everyone be social? it's entirely unnecessary and even destructive if your personality naturally rejects social interaction.

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: HeathenJessie

You're doing a lot of admitting. That's fine if you don't want to be judged. I consider you might be actually providing material that disproves Fug's ideas.

But you shouldn't be surprised if people have a hard time digesting what stories you're telling... That's why you're telling them.

Heh...yeah, it does seem that way, don't it?

But why would i say it if it wasn't true...is it even possible to lie online? I mean, if i go the opposite road, for example, and claim to be a chivalrous knight in shining armour - will they buy that hook, line and sinker, and pat me on the back?

a reply to: HeathenJessie

Narcissism isn't a positive trait. Not because it has the potential to hurt others, but because the narcissist them self is highly delusional.

Being self aware is far more beneficial to your mentality than being controlled by narcissistic views of ones self that dramatically inflate 'positive' personal views- views that, in some cases, may not even exist but in the narcissists mind - and inhibits your ability to think clearly due to a massive, ongoing bias.

Unfounded self views tend to lead a narcissist into some rather poor situations.

For instance, lets take a look at violent offenders whom are also highly narcissistic. Let's say someone commits a murder, they are never caught or even suspected. They commit another murder, and another and another. Each one becoming increasingly 'sloppy', hiding fewer and fewer of their tracks because they believe they'll never get caught. They're ego grows and eventually they're arrested, usually for something beyond trivial which could have easily prevented their arrest if only their narcissistic delusion didn't get in the way.

The same scenario could be said for the Narcissistic business man, making riskier and riskier moves and eventually losing everything. Or even in the more common Narcissist in their respective social environments, losing everything.

Ego isn't a good thing.

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: HeathenJessie

You're doing a lot of admitting. That's fine if you don't want to be judged. I consider you might be actually providing material that disproves Fug's ideas.

But you shouldn't be surprised if people have a hard time digesting what stories you're telling... That's why you're telling them.

Heh...yeah, it does seem that way, don't it?

But why would i say it if it wasn't true...is it even possible to lie online? I mean, if i go the opposite road, for example, and claim to be a chivalrous knight in shining armour - will they buy that hook, line and sinker, and pat me on the back?

Your reasons could derive from a multitude of perspectives. It doesn't really matter in the end. If you want to paint yourself that way, that's your right.

I'm more-so commenting about the topic of Anti-social behavior, Narcissism, Introverts and so on, rather than you as an individual. Psychology is what's interesting, not you (not to be offensive)

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: HeathenJessie

You're doing a lot of admitting. That's fine if you don't want to be judged. I consider you might be actually providing material that disproves Fug's ideas.

But you shouldn't be surprised if people have a hard time digesting what stories you're telling... That's why you're telling them.

Heh...yeah, it does seem that way, don't it?

But why would i say it if it wasn't true...is it even possible to lie online? I mean, if i go the opposite road, for example, and claim to be a chivalrous knight in shining armour - will they buy that hook, line and sinker, and pat me on the back?

It's not about whether your stories are true or not. It's the thread in which you chose to share them.

You secretly despise yourself.

originally posted by: Ghost147
a reply to: HeathenJessie

Narcissism isn't a positive trait. Not because it has the potential to hurt others, but because the narcissist them self is highly delusional.

Being self aware is far more beneficial to your mentality than being controlled by narcissistic views of ones self that dramatically inflate 'positive' personal views- views that, in some cases, may not even exist but in the narcissists mind - and inhibits your ability to think clearly due to a massive, ongoing bias.

Unfounded self views tend to lead a narcissist into some rather poor situations.

For instance, lets take a look at violent offenders whom are also highly narcissistic. Let's say someone commits a murder, they are never caught or even suspected. They commit another murder, and another and another. Each one becoming increasingly 'sloppy', hiding fewer and fewer of their tracks because they believe they'll never get caught. They're ego grows and eventually they're arrested, usually for something beyond trivial which could have easily prevented their arrest if only their narcissistic delusion didn't get in the way.

The same scenario could be said for the Narcissistic business man, making riskier and riskier moves and eventually losing everything. Or even in the more common Narcissist in their respective social environments, losing everything.

Ego isn't a good thing.

It's unhealthy to think of narcissism in that way - how does one identify ones own greatness if they're restricted by such a concept? Some people, people like me, are quite right to be full of themselves. To be greedy, selfish, hedonistic, we've earned that right because we have elevated ourselves above the average human.

I agree that it's wrong for an average, basic person to harbour narcissistic tendencies, but it's perfectly normal for an advanced person like me to acknowledge that we're better than regular people.

originally posted by: TarzanBeta

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: HeathenJessie

You're doing a lot of admitting. That's fine if you don't want to be judged. I consider you might be actually providing material that disproves Fug's ideas.

But you shouldn't be surprised if people have a hard time digesting what stories you're telling... That's why you're telling them.

Heh...yeah, it does seem that way, don't it?

But why would i say it if it wasn't true...is it even possible to lie online? I mean, if i go the opposite road, for example, and claim to be a chivalrous knight in shining armour - will they buy that hook, line and sinker, and pat me on the back?

It's not about whether your stories are true or not. It's the thread in which you chose to share them.

You secretly despise yourself.

How dare you judge me. Nobody talks to me like that...nobody!

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: TarzanBeta

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: HeathenJessie

You're doing a lot of admitting. That's fine if you don't want to be judged. I consider you might be actually providing material that disproves Fug's ideas.

But you shouldn't be surprised if people have a hard time digesting what stories you're telling... That's why you're telling them.

Heh...yeah, it does seem that way, don't it?

But why would i say it if it wasn't true...is it even possible to lie online? I mean, if i go the opposite road, for example, and claim to be a chivalrous knight in shining armour - will they buy that hook, line and sinker, and pat me on the back?

It's not about whether your stories are true or not. It's the thread in which you chose to share them.

You secretly despise yourself.

How dare you judge me. Nobody talks to me like that...nobody!

Hahaha. I got your message.

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: Ghost147
a reply to: HeathenJessie

Narcissism isn't a positive trait. Not because it has the potential to hurt others, but because the narcissist them self is highly delusional.

Being self aware is far more beneficial to your mentality than being controlled by narcissistic views of ones self that dramatically inflate 'positive' personal views- views that, in some cases, may not even exist but in the narcissists mind - and inhibits your ability to think clearly due to a massive, ongoing bias.

Unfounded self views tend to lead a narcissist into some rather poor situations.

For instance, lets take a look at violent offenders whom are also highly narcissistic. Let's say someone commits a murder, they are never caught or even suspected. They commit another murder, and another and another. Each one becoming increasingly 'sloppy', hiding fewer and fewer of their tracks because they believe they'll never get caught. They're ego grows and eventually they're arrested, usually for something beyond trivial which could have easily prevented their arrest if only their narcissistic delusion didn't get in the way.

The same scenario could be said for the Narcissistic business man, making riskier and riskier moves and eventually losing everything. Or even in the more common Narcissist in their respective social environments, losing everything.

Ego isn't a good thing.

It's unhealthy to think of narcissism in that way - how does one identify ones own greatness if they're restricted by such a concept?

By all means, you can be proud of yourself, there's nothing wrong with that.

What's narcissistic is when being honestly proud is dramatically inflated into, and I quote, "people worship the ground I walk on"

originally posted by: HeathenJessie
Some people, people like me, are quite right to be full of themselves. To be greedy, selfish, hedonistic, we've earned that right because we have elevated ourselves above the average human.

Right, and that would be the narcissism talking. Or trolling, or compulsive lying. Whichever you'd rather fancy.

originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: Ghost147
a reply to: HeathenJessie

Narcissism isn't a positive trait. Not because it has the potential to hurt others, but because the narcissist them self is highly delusional.

Being self aware is far more beneficial to your mentality than being controlled by narcissistic views of ones self that dramatically inflate 'positive' personal views- views that, in some cases, may not even exist but in the narcissists mind - and inhibits your ability to think clearly due to a massive, ongoing bias.

Unfounded self views tend to lead a narcissist into some rather poor situations.

For instance, lets take a look at violent offenders whom are also highly narcissistic. Let's say someone commits a murder, they are never caught or even suspected. They commit another murder, and another and another. Each one becoming increasingly 'sloppy', hiding fewer and fewer of their tracks because they believe they'll never get caught. They're ego grows and eventually they're arrested, usually for something beyond trivial which could have easily prevented their arrest if only their narcissistic delusion didn't get in the way.

The same scenario could be said for the Narcissistic business man, making riskier and riskier moves and eventually losing everything. Or even in the more common Narcissist in their respective social environments, losing everything.

Ego isn't a good thing.

It's unhealthy to think of narcissism in that way - how does one identify ones own greatness if they're restricted by such a concept?

By all means, you can be proud of yourself, there's nothing wrong with that.

What's narcissistic is when being honestly proud is dramatically inflated into, and I quote, "people worship the ground I walk on"

originally posted by: HeathenJessie
Some people, people like me, are quite right to be full of themselves. To be greedy, selfish, hedonistic, we've earned that right because we have elevated ourselves above the average human.

Right, and that would be the narcissism talking. Or trolling, or compulsive lying. Whichever you'd rather fancy.

People do worship the ground I walk on, that's respect and fear.

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: Ghost147
a reply to: HeathenJessie

Narcissism isn't a positive trait. Not because it has the potential to hurt others, but because the narcissist them self is highly delusional.

Being self aware is far more beneficial to your mentality than being controlled by narcissistic views of ones self that dramatically inflate 'positive' personal views- views that, in some cases, may not even exist but in the narcissists mind - and inhibits your ability to think clearly due to a massive, ongoing bias.

Unfounded self views tend to lead a narcissist into some rather poor situations.

For instance, lets take a look at violent offenders whom are also highly narcissistic. Let's say someone commits a murder, they are never caught or even suspected. They commit another murder, and another and another. Each one becoming increasingly 'sloppy', hiding fewer and fewer of their tracks because they believe they'll never get caught. They're ego grows and eventually they're arrested, usually for something beyond trivial which could have easily prevented their arrest if only their narcissistic delusion didn't get in the way.

The same scenario could be said for the Narcissistic business man, making riskier and riskier moves and eventually losing everything. Or even in the more common Narcissist in their respective social environments, losing everything.

Ego isn't a good thing.

It's unhealthy to think of narcissism in that way - how does one identify ones own greatness if they're restricted by such a concept?

By all means, you can be proud of yourself, there's nothing wrong with that.

What's narcissistic is when being honestly proud is dramatically inflated into, and I quote, "people worship the ground I walk on"

originally posted by: HeathenJessie
Some people, people like me, are quite right to be full of themselves. To be greedy, selfish, hedonistic, we've earned that right because we have elevated ourselves above the average human.

Right, and that would be the narcissism talking. Or trolling, or compulsive lying. Whichever you'd rather fancy.

People do worship the ground I walk on, that's respect and fear.

And also narcissism.

originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: HeathenJessie

originally posted by: Ghost147
a reply to: HeathenJessie

Narcissism isn't a positive trait. Not because it has the potential to hurt others, but because the narcissist them self is highly delusional.

Being self aware is far more beneficial to your mentality than being controlled by narcissistic views of ones self that dramatically inflate 'positive' personal views- views that, in some cases, may not even exist but in the narcissists mind - and inhibits your ability to think clearly due to a massive, ongoing bias.

Unfounded self views tend to lead a narcissist into some rather poor situations.

For instance, lets take a look at violent offenders whom are also highly narcissistic. Let's say someone commits a murder, they are never caught or even suspected. They commit another murder, and another and another. Each one becoming increasingly 'sloppy', hiding fewer and fewer of their tracks because they believe they'll never get caught. They're ego grows and eventually they're arrested, usually for something beyond trivial which could have easily prevented their arrest if only their narcissistic delusion didn't get in the way.

The same scenario could be said for the Narcissistic business man, making riskier and riskier moves and eventually losing everything. Or even in the more common Narcissist in their respective social environments, losing everything.

Ego isn't a good thing.

It's unhealthy to think of narcissism in that way - how does one identify ones own greatness if they're restricted by such a concept?

By all means, you can be proud of yourself, there's nothing wrong with that.

What's narcissistic is when being honestly proud is dramatically inflated into, and I quote, "people worship the ground I walk on"

originally posted by: HeathenJessie
Some people, people like me, are quite right to be full of themselves. To be greedy, selfish, hedonistic, we've earned that right because we have elevated ourselves above the average human.

Right, and that would be the narcissism talking. Or trolling, or compulsive lying. Whichever you'd rather fancy.

People do worship the ground I walk on, that's respect and fear.

And also narcissism.

Narcissism causes other people to worhip the ground that I walk on? Are you saying that those people are also narcissists?

a reply to: HeathenJessie

True, that's respect and fear.

But respect and fear is overrated. It takes much more strength to let people think they're in charge than it does to actually be in charge.

I have a minor issue with that due to dealing with people like you and I had to build myself up. I have to remember not to use it on the wrong people.