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31 seconds of the healthcare vote that shows why people hate politics

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posted on May, 4 2017 @ 08:52 PM
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So you heard the other news today, but what you didn't hear is this crap. 31 seconds of truth in American politics. That a party only gives a crap about their own power. Straight line party vote, and as usual team left is counting their chickens before their hatched.



(CNN)When House Republicans secured their 216th "yes" on the American Health Care Act Thursday, Democrats immediately began taunting their across-the-aisle rivals. "Na Na Na Na, Hey Hey Hey, Goodbye," Democrats sang at Republicans. A few Democrats even waved goodbye. The implication was obvious: Democrats believed many Republicans had just cost themselves their political careers by voting for an overhaul of Obamacare. And the DC political class wonders why people hate them.


Two years is a very long time in the worlds greatest show on Earth.

Na Na Na Na, Goodbye.

Is something WE should be singing to career politicians that ONLY care about their party, and their own power.

I report YOU decide.
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posted on May, 4 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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Politicians actually want people to rely on government rather than themselves.


The only difference between a politician and a 6 foot pile of dog crap is the 100 dollar haircut.


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posted on May, 4 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: neo96

The Dems don't get it. They're brainless or severely hearing impaired. The last election was a huge cry to get rid of the failing ObamaCare.

Americans screamed loudly that they wanted a repeal and replacement of ObamaCare. The vast majority of working Americans saw unsustainable increases in their premiums and deductibles. They might as well not even have had insurance coverage.

ObamaCare helped only a handful compared to the number it hurt.

Republicans heard the calls from America and because they are not lemmings like the Dems, it took some real effort to get a replacement.

The Dems are going to find just the opposite of what they think. People are sick of the Democrat Party and their party-first politics. Their rhetoric about helping middle class families is just that... rhetoric. They were too self-absorbed to hear the cries of help from working middle class families. They are the ones that are going to pay come voting time.


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posted on May, 4 2017 @ 09:07 PM
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The left have chosen their own method of death. Lies and exaggeration about the other side. After years of lies and exaggeration the swing voters have not only become immune to it but many actually automatically now believe the opposite of what the left is preaching.

To further exasperate their problem, left leadership continues to grip this failed policy and their constituents do nothing to find new leadership. They have lost over 1,000 seats politically deploying this strategy and they still do not change.

Keep right on singing dear hearts for the end is near.
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posted on May, 4 2017 @ 09:08 PM
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Next it'll be 30 seconds over Tokyo



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posted on May, 4 2017 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Both sides are acting like immature adolescents. The totally asleep american populace has no clue what is going on and don't care if it doesn't effect them. God help us.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

That's a lot of dog crap.

And one expensive haircut.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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Partisan parrots all about. Even here.

Maybe you missed the Republicans doing the same thing when Obamacare passed.

Its Gross. Nobody wins. The Republicans will certainly loose when the cap hits the fan in the next year if this passes. It's about as bad as the original document it intends to replace.

Until the lobby power is checked the profiteers are writing the bills.

Wake up folks. Your side sucks too.
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posted on May, 4 2017 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: neo96

There's no way the Democrats gain any seats. The level of gerrymandering this time around is more than ever before.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
So you heard the other news today, but what you didn't hear is this crap. 31 seconds of truth in American politics. That a party only gives a crap about their own power. ...


And you think that this is somehow news?



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 10:36 PM
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I heard Republicans did the same thing back in the 90s.


It's sad that I yell at my kids for acting the same way our leaders do. Very sad.



posted on May, 4 2017 @ 10:49 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
Partisan parrots all about. Even here.

Maybe you missed the Republicans doing the same thing when Obamacare passed.

Its Gross. Nobody wins. The Republicans will certainly loose when the cap hits the fan in the next year if this passes. It's about as bad as the original document it intends to replace.

Until the lobby power is checked the profiteers are writing the bills.

Wake up folks. Your side sucks too.


Truth. The unfettered, unadulterated truth. They suck and are only it for themselves. Although that wake up call you made will likely go unheeded. Sadly.



posted on May, 5 2017 @ 05:12 AM
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Please, the whole thing is ridiculous. Have we forgotten how McConnell called on his party to make sure Obama got nothing done as long as he was in? That seemed pretty partisan.

Bottom line is the populace has either been asleep or distracted for decades. Tax breakers for the very richest? Did they promise the 'create' 50 new jobs for us or some other nonsense? The fact that healthcare is even the issue it has become just illustrates how diseased the population has become chasing the almighty dollar they will never quite catch. Get the people fighting amongst themselves so they're easier to control.
Well, as long as we have that new truck and huge tv nothing else really matters anyway. Especially some fat sick guy that did it to himself. Right?



posted on May, 5 2017 @ 07:09 AM
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Democrats believed many Republicans had just cost themselves their political careers by voting for an overhaul of Obamacare.


I wont pretend I understand your health care...but I dont get why are Americans (or at least some of them) so hung up on Obamacare.

In my country every 4 years when a new party takes power...they do a comprehensive health care reformation. It never means that anyone under the current health care program loses anything...they just switch you to a new program.

Maybe somebody can explain to me...why is changing health care programs...such a taboo ?

Is Trump going to take away everybody's health care...which you got for free up until so far ?


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Is obamacare some kind of sacred cow...that was supposed to remain unchanged for decades to come ?
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posted on May, 5 2017 @ 07:16 AM
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I don't think it's the free part that will enrage the public, it's the lack of coverage for pre existing conditions, mental health coverage, women's health coverage etc.

I think the issue is the lobysists write the bills and the two parties pretend to be fighting each other.

Why not make Healthcare nonprofit? It would keep many ethical problems and conflicts of interest from the motive being profit on wall street. It would also keep government from controlling Healthcare and the companies could still compete.

Why isn't it even discussed,...because nobody wants a solution.



posted on May, 5 2017 @ 08:11 AM
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Why not make Healthcare nonprofit? It would keep many ethical problems and conflicts of interest from the motive being profit on wall street. It would also keep government from controlling Healthcare and the companies could still compete.


I dont get it...but why would any company compete...if it's...non-profit ?

And you can never make it non-profit...unless govt controls it.



posted on May, 5 2017 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

The government needs to regulate Healthcare. It is a unique circumstance where fraud kills or harms people directly.

If it's non profit they compete to have jobs and research money. Non profit doesn't mean you don't compete. You should examine the Swiss model where many large companies exist. Non profit does not mean you can't be paid millions. It means the goal is not to raise as much capital as possible.

50 percent of American clinical drug trials are found to be false when rerun. The chief editor of the new England journal of medicine himself was part of a study confirming a tainted peer review process because of the conflicts of interest. Over 25 percent were purposely fabricated.

We are talking treatments and diagnosis.


No profit would take a lot of the detailed control away from the government.

Most hospitals operate as nonprofits and do just fine , they however are bound by the insurance/government profiteering system both parties enjoy.

Like how most republicans block generics from Canada, Corey Booker is on that list as well.

www.collective-evolution.com...

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posted on May, 5 2017 @ 11:07 AM
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I think the repeal of ACA with the current replacement is a mistake, mostly because i have no idea what it means yet. And doubt anyone else does, either. My gut says we jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire, though.

All that aside...is this true? Did this really happen?

Every. Last. One. They all need to be removed. I've been fairly clear to folks in my personal life: if you want to discuss politics with me, and you are voting for someone currently in power, you will be shut down harshly.

I can count maybe 2 incumbents who should keep their jobs in our legislative arm. Even them, i wouldn't mind seeing removed just to make sure the whole tumor was gotten.



posted on May, 5 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: neo96

The Dems don't get it. They're brainless or severely hearing impaired. The last election was a huge cry to get rid of the failing ObamaCare.

Americans screamed loudly that they wanted a repeal and replacement of ObamaCare. The vast majority of working Americans saw unsustainable increases in their premiums and deductibles. They might as well not even have had insurance coverage.

ObamaCare helped only a handful compared to the number it hurt.

Republicans heard the calls from America and because they are not lemmings like the Dems, it took some real effort to get a replacement.

The Dems are going to find just the opposite of what they think. People are sick of the Democrat Party and their party-first politics. Their rhetoric about helping middle class families is just that... rhetoric. They were too self-absorbed to hear the cries of help from working middle class families. They are the ones that are going to pay come voting time.



This...and all who starred it (unfortunately quite a few) show that so many people have NO IDEA what the ACA is or what the crooked republican politicians are trying to do.

So sad.



posted on May, 5 2017 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: veracity

Well what *ARE* they "trying" to do anyway ?








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