KODI users may face up to 10 years for copywrite infringement.

a reply to: network dude

Remember, once you see something, you can't unsee it.

*shakes head* why did I click that?

a reply to: schuyler

When you work you expect to get PAID, right?

When I pay I expect a quality product.

The problem is that 99% of the absolute garbage hollywood puts out.

Isn't worth a cent.

I only steal things I ultimately plan on buying. I see no need to wait as the consumer. I shouldn't be punished for fandom.

The last thing I stole, I have purchased 12 copies of. I'll see you in court haters. If any of you ever sued me, boycott for life.

a reply to: network dude

Back in the day (late 80's early 90's) i remember my old Analogue Modem, baud rate 1400 with an A4 footprint size, dialing up "Bulletin Boards" and downloading pictures 1 line at a time (didn't have a PC then, was doing my stuff on an Amiga!!) LOL, i can still hear the handshake sequence between the two modem's.

Now, with a router, no noise, instant access and ridiculous download speeds.

Who would have thought back then, that you could be serving time in prison for 0's and 1's.

Even then, back as a young one, it was still legal in the UK to download (about a week) "Jolly Rodgers Cookbook" and try to fathom out what all the different coloured box hacks were!! until it finally dawned it was USA specific. Nowadays, you would get arrested on anti-terrorism charges just for possession.

How times have changed

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: opethPA


Basically if a person wants to use KODI or Torrents or whatever approach their is to get things for free they normally have to pay for then they give up the right to complain when they have to pay the price for their choice.

Yea, no. I raised 3 kids, 2 of whom liked to push the envelope whenever possible. When you get a call from the Cable company saying they will shut your signal down due to illegal accessing of Copyrighted material and you didn't do it, but your kids did, I'm not sure where the line is on that. I won't be sending my 12 year old to jail for 10 years, and I'd rather not go in their place, due to the fact that I didn't break the law. Kids are all grown and gone now, but that was a real scenario.

I feel like the penalty is a tiny bit excessive here.

Im not a parent so probably not qualified to speak on this but maybe your kids shouldn't be in a position to break the law then at age 10 and 12?

a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

LOL

My first modem was 2400baud on a 486sx!

OMG what a drag. Like getting one tiny TXT file was like a big deal. Jolly Roger bebe!

We could get SWEET shareware like Wolfenstein 3D and DOOM at least, it just took like what seemed a month to get.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

LOL

a reply to: schuyler

I can appreciate your position on this. but I remember when Napster came out. I was able to download lots of strange music. (and other things) and listen to stuff I never would have otherwise. I was introduced to some really cool things that I am a fan of today because of that interaction. And knowing that word of mouth advertising is usually one of the best forms for certain products, I really don't know why more artists weren't in favor of that venue.

a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

Argh, meant 2400 baud.

a reply to: neo96

It is worth a cent, the issue is they just slap $40 on it like 'its the same as the rest' and now there is more garbage than product worth that much. It undercut everything. I purchase the new Star Wars for $20, so it's easy to see people at least 'trying' are getting screwed by it.

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: opethPA


Basically if a person wants to use KODI or Torrents or whatever approach their is to get things for free they normally have to pay for then they give up the right to complain when they have to pay the price for their choice.

Yea, no. I raised 3 kids, 2 of whom liked to push the envelope whenever possible. When you get a call from the Cable company saying they will shut your signal down due to illegal accessing of Copyrighted material and you didn't do it, but your kids did, I'm not sure where the line is on that. I won't be sending my 12 year old to jail for 10 years, and I'd rather not go in their place, due to the fact that I didn't break the law. Kids are all grown and gone now, but that was a real scenario.

I feel like the penalty is a tiny bit excessive here.

Im not a parent so probably not qualified to speak on this but maybe your kids shouldn't be in a position to break the law then at age 10 and 12?

Please do me this one favor. Years down the road, when you have kids, (specifically teenagers), remember this moment and contact me to see of your opinion is the same. I'd be really interested to see the result.

originally posted by: slapjacks
a reply to: network dude

Remember, once you see something, you can't unsee it.

*shakes head* why did I click that?

got one.

a reply to: network dude

How about I had the entire catalog of Metallica (amongst many others) CD's stolen from me like 2 or 3 times over by the time napster came out. Bandwidth still SUCKED in the 90's so other than checking the thing out I never bothered much with Napster, but had I went and DL'ed some of those Metallica songs I had already bought and owned on disc several times over they would have tried to PROSECUTE me for trying to listen to their stuff again outside the confines of the CROOKED radio station model (that doesnt even play all the best stuff for any given band most the time).

F(@&(@(*@&*@& Metallica!!!

originally posted by: network dude
Link to source

The Digital Economy Act has passed into law, meaning people could now face ten-year prison sentences for illegally streaming copyrighted content. It covers a wide number of areas, including broadband speeds, access to online pornography and government data-sharing. However, amid the rising popularity of Kodi, an increase to the maximum prison term – from two years to ten – for people guilty of copyright infringement is particularly interesting.

For those who don't know what KODI is, it's a program you can load on devices like the Amazon Fire Stick. By itself, it's not something that's illegal or can get to illegal content, but you can load what's called "builds" on it, which can allow you to view things that aren't legal. Like movies that just came out, or neked people doing stuff.

The comments in the article seem to suggest that the end user won't really be the target, but the way this is laid out, it very well could be. Can you imagine getting 10 years in jail for watching Smurfs, the lost village? I think Bank Robbery and Manslaughter have lighter sentences.

Remember, once you see something, you can't unsee it.

This is the answer to minorities going to prison more often for marijuana charges, especially with it being legalized more now....gotta have a new prison filler and it is whiteys turn I guess....

a reply to: opethPA

That's impossible though- and also not what you would want to do anyway.

Kids doing that thing at that young an age is illegal, but that's also misguided talent.

Kids are also altruistic. I stole for almost years before I found out it was illegal and this was wrecking on me, but I altered my strategies massively to something I thought should be acceptable for the medium of the technology verses the legality and many did the same. It needs to exist, but the adults aren't addressing 'how'. Torrent has the best possible solution in it's own name. Rent the data. Rent.

originally posted by: network dude
I really don't know why more artists weren't in favor of that venue.

Because it would have made the record labels obsolete and not needed any more, the reality is the artists didn't have a say in the matter.

Don't forget it's not the artists who own the copyright of their work, but the labels once the artists has signed the contract

originally posted by: DClark
a reply to: network dude

Not enough prison space.

Probably true, but suppose as with pirating CDs and DVDs that there is a hefty fine with the promise of prison to go along with that? Why should people want to steal something just because it is easy and you probably won't get caught?

Isn't that the same as ghetto looting?

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: KnightFire
If this is truly the case.....I will expect to see every YouTube user in prison as well. Streaming data is legal. Hosting is not without permission or some form of way to pay royalties. It has never been about if you or can't do it, it's always about who is going to get PAID!!!

When you work you expect to get PAID, right? You wouldn;t like it if your paycheck were withheld, would you? It's about the right (not write) of the owner of a work to the fruit of his efforts. Nowhere in commerce is it okay for the consumer to decide whether or not he will pay for an item. Had I been actually paid the modest royalty on the software products I produced, I would have been able to make a living from my efforts. As it stands, copyright (not write) infringement made it impossible for me to quit my day job. People seem to think this is all about corporate profits and greed. Is it "greed" to want to buy food for my family? Who is being greedy here? the person who steals from others with impunity and tries to justify it by saying other people do it, too? Or is it the guy who seeks a modest income to allow him to put bread on the table? It's not all about stealing from big, bad corporate Disney, so that somehow makes it morally justifiable because you don't like the owner. And don't tell me you "couldn't afford it." That's an outright lie and you know it. (Can I steal from you if I don't like you?) It's about people like me not being in a position to write more cool stuff because copyright (not write) infringement deprived me from the ability to do so.

Lets get one thing straight. Piracy isnt stealing. Stealing implies i have taken something out of your possesion and keeping it in mine. Piracy is nothing more than giving someone a duplicate of a file.
Majority of movie sales are made from theater sales, not dvd or bluray.
Majority of music money is made from concerts, not sale of cds.
So dont give me that youre stealing my money bs. If you believe pirates are stealing your money, maybe you should consider a new line of work that has more stability for your obviously fragile state of income. If youre big enough for people to WANT to pirate your garbage, youre making your money from concert ticket sales or theater sales, to claim otherwisr is massive BS and im not buying it, just like im not buying music or movies.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

That's an interesting point.

How does KODI sustain? Who runs it and pays for the servers and upload?

Glad the surveillance state is putting yet again more effort into attacking the consumer.

And again corporations have gotten the government to foot the bill for seeking out the consumers.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yea, but in their defense, they only started to whine about things after they sold out and started making garbage music. Back when they rocked, all they cared about was drinking, playing fast and loud, and drinking.