Elite Pedo ring

a reply to: JoshuaCox

You know what I mean exactly so don't beat around the bush no one is fooled by semantic's, the allies (western) knew about the death camps', the Jewish council had approached them and begged them to bomb them which they had simply said they would consider, the Nazi regime thought they were getting away with it so continued for a few more years or there murder of million's would have been stopped or at least slowed, the silence of the allies on that matter therefore led to many dying there needlessly as though the Nazi's where indeed not silent they had believed there final solution was a secret.

Are you familiar with the Franklin case?
If you have the time, you might consider looking into it.
There is ample documentation--and a civil court judgement in favor of one of the victim/witnesses--to substantiate the claims of SRA. It's difficult to look at the details of that particular case objectively and dismiss such things out of hand.

And, for the record, there is a big difference between non-theistic and theistic satanism.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: JoshuaCox

You know what I mean exactly so don't beat around the bush no one is fooled by semantic's, the allies (western) knew about the death camps', the Jewish council had approached them and begged them to bomb them which they had simply said they would consider, the Nazi regime thought they were getting away with it so continued for a few more years or there murder of million's would have been stopped or at least slowed, the silence of the allies on that matter therefore led to many dying there needlessly as though the Nazi's where indeed not silent they had believed there final solution was a secret.

The nazis were not quite at all about their opinion of Jews.. of course the outside world and average German prob didn't know the worst of it. But everyone knew roughly what they were about..

That is the opposite of the satanic conspiracy nonesense..

With that there is not ONE SINGLE documented case ever... there are no satanists who are not admitted athiests..

There is not one example of a satanic cult killing anyone, except for your random mental patient who says the devil told them to.. and one case of 4 teenagers pretending to be vampires..





This is FAR CLOSER to the Salem witch trials, than the nazis..

Everyone freaking out over something no one has ever actually seen or has ANY evidence of...

originally posted by: Gandalf77
Are you familiar with the Franklin case?
If you have the time, you might consider looking into it.
There is ample documentation--and a civil court judgement in favor of one of the victim/witnesses--to substantiate the claims of SRA. It's difficult to look at the details of that particular case objectively and dismiss such things out of hand.

And, for the record, there is a big difference between non-theistic and theistic satanism.

You might want to revisit the Franklin case...


"After investigation, a grand jury in Douglas County (of which Omaha, Nebraska is the largest city and county seat) determined the abuse allegations were baseless, describing them as a "carefully crafted hoax" and indicted two of the accusers on perjury charges.[4] The grand jury also suggested that the abuse stories originated from a vindictive employee terminated by Boys Town, the famed refuge for troubled youths.[4] Later, a federal grand jury concluded that the abuse allegations were unfounded and indicted 21-year-old Alisha Owen, an alleged victim, on eight counts of perjury. The same grand jury also indicted multiple officers of the credit union, including King, for crimes related to the embezzlement of funds from the credit union.[4][5] Alisha Owen served 4-1/2 years in prison.[6]"

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I think you're dismissing the testimony of a lot of victim/witnesses.
Going beyond the Franklin case, have you looked into the Berkowitz story much?
Have you looked into Father Malachi Martin?
For that matter, have you looked into the occult connections at the heart of the 3rd Reich?

a reply to: Gandalf77

There are no examples of a real life satanic cult...

If you believe in Christianity why in the hell would you back the side offering hell for all eternity????

You wouldn't, I wouldn't... no one would..

If there are really satanic cults running around it would validate Christianity.. you get way more recruits if you also create a bad guy or opposition party..

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: JoshuaCox

I think you're dismissing the testimony of a lot of victim/witnesses.
Going beyond the Franklin case, have you looked into the Berkowitz story much?
Have you looked into Father Malachi Martin?
For that matter, have you looked into the occult connections at the heart of the 3rd Reich?

Yes because everyone who investigated it thought they were lying enough even to actually charge them with perjury..

Which is not a low bar...

They would need proof they knew they were lying and I think also malicious intent for it to be perjury.

Which they were convicted of..

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Trust me: It goes much deeper than what you're pulling up about the grand jury proceedings. That snippet leaves out all of the evidence for tampering, witness intimidation, and outright coverup.
There is a string of bodies connected to that case. It's by no means open and shut.

a reply to: Gandalf77

Humans are horrible witnesses..

They lie, misremember, fool themselves, exc..

That's why testimonials count for jack "beep" in science..

Because they are almost totally unreliable.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

That's just it: at the core of theistic satanism, there is an acknowledgment of two sides. It's just flipped upside down and perverted. Light is dark, dark is light, good is bad, bad is good.

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Trust me: It goes much deeper than what you're pulling up about the grand jury proceedings. That snippet leaves out all of the evidence for tampering, witness intimidation, and outright coverup.
There is a string of bodies connected to that case. It's by no means open and shut.

Evidence of that from who???

How do you function in a world where every legit news source is "in on it" and Alex Jones is your most trusted news source?!?! (Fyi not you personally..figure of speech you)



How does some one even debate that?!?!

"Well if you believe everyone is a vast conspiracy to convience you otherwise, then it all makes perfect sense.."

a reply to: JoshuaCox

The civil judgement rendered on behalf of one of the victim witnesses wasn't due to perjury or unreliability.
Again, you're glossing over volumes of details and testimony here.

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: JoshuaCox

That's just it: at the core of theistic satanism, there is an acknowledgment of two sides. It's just flipped upside down and perverted. Light is dark, dark is light, good is bad, bad is good.

Then please provide an example of that...

Yazities believe god and lucifer made up and god let him back in the club..

That doesn't make them a satanic cult running around running pedo rings and murdering people..

The satanic scare is a known BS phenomenon where news papers pretended like they made sense for click bait..

Now with information being readily available that stuff doesn't fly anymore..

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: JoshuaCox

The civil judgement rendered on behalf of one of the victim witnesses wasn't due to perjury or unreliability.
Again, you're glossing over volumes of details and testimony here.

Please post proof of this eledged civil suit..

Because how do you get a civil settlement when you were convicted of perjury..

I bet that is a lie from whatever Christian conspiracy site you found it on.

a reply to: Gandalf77

en.m.wikipedia.org...

The wiki page makes no mention of said eledged civil suit..

How do you win one when you were convicted of perjury over the same exact instance.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Where the Franklin case is concerned, the 'legit' news sources have been shown to not exactly, uh, have been unbiased.
Do the research and see how the Omaha Herald played into the whole story.
Read the accounts of the members of the select commitee Nebraska established to look deeper into the matter after it became apparent that law enforcement wasn't exactly being cooperative and forthcoming (and, similar to the Herald, there are reasons for that). Look into what happened to the private investigator they hired to assist in the matter. Maybe take a look at some of the excellent investigative journalism that's been done--and the standards they abided by for corroboration.

Or not.

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Where the Franklin case is concerned, the 'legit' news sources have been shown to not exactly, uh, have been unbiased.
Do the research and see how the Omaha Herald played into the whole story.
Read the accounts of the members of the select commitee Nebraska established to look deeper into the matter after it became apparent that law enforcement wasn't exactly being cooperative and forthcoming (and, similar to the Herald, there are reasons for that). Look into what happened to the private investigator they hired to assist in the matter. Maybe take a look at some of the excellent investigative journalism that's been done--and the standards they abided by for corroboration.

Or not.

"Only conspiracy theory sites count.."

Really???

I just did a little and found countless articles saying there was no evidence of any satanic cult..

Only the info wars and Christian conspiracy sites claim otherwise..

a reply to: Gandalf77

It should be pretty telling that no one without a vested interest (a Christian trying to validate Christianity) Believes satanic cults exist..

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Paul Bonacci (victim/witness) won a million dollar judgement against Lawrence King on 2/14/99.

Source: The Franklin Case Timeline (on Franklincase.org)

www.franklincase.org... w=article&id=11&Itemid=9

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I realize it's anecdotal, but I have spoken with law enforcement officers who will tell you otherwise.