Do all Holiday's have Pagan Origins, Aren't there any that are truly unique?

I watched another one of this guys YouTube videos, before on Easter, and now on May 1st. Once again he associates it with a bunch of pagan stuff. Aren't there any holidays that don't have associations with Paganism? I really have a hard time believing what he is saying, is he full of $h!t

Presidents Day.



Sorry, no idea. Maybe I should watch the vid?


ETA; I can roll with the may pole.

Seems logical. Right down to feeding Christians to the lions.

a reply to: BStoltman


Hanukkah isn't based on foreign or Pagan myths. It's uniquely Jewish.

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I didn't watch the video, don't know that guy, but May 1st is Walpurgisnacht. Always was.
Where the witches climb their brooms and fly around. Beautiful, you've never been? There is this sense of community while we plot to castrate all men it gets you through the rest of the year.

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Thanksgiving, Labor Day, Veterans Day, Memorial Day, Presidents Day among a bunch of others...

When we owned a drug store in the 60's....Dad used to say while I put out the current holiday cards...that it was Hallmark and the other card companies who invented alot of them to sell more cards.*

P.S. Sorry..had no time to watch your video

a reply to: BStoltman

That depends on whose explanations you believe. Homo Sapiens have been around for 10s of thousands of years, and more than 200,000 according to the theories that say we started in central Africa. There are only 365 days in the solar year (less in the lunar year). This means there are bound to be overlapping dates for "special days". So it really comes down to the explanation for why a day is considered special by the group that's celebrating it.

ETA: Here's an example of what I mean. This website shows some of the various international holidays for each day this month (HERE). It shows that today, May 1st, is:
Australia (regional): Labour Day
Finland: Vappu
India (regional): Maharashtra Day
Ireland: May Bank Holiday
Kazakhstan: Kazakhstan People Solidarity Day
United Kingdom: Early May Bank Holiday
Various: May Day

Pagan here. Didn't watch the video. Yep may day is celebrated as bealtinne by the Irish pagans. We dance around maypoles and have huge bonfires to celebrate the divine wedding. It's a huge day for purification, and the bonfire purifies people and animals (tradition is to leap over the flames but most don't do that now for safety reasons.) Druids used to charge money to everyone that collected fire from them (because all fires had to be started new that day, and no one had lighters back then).

a reply to: BStoltman

Was Martin luther King a pagan? Hmm mother's day mom might be a pagan she would beat me with a broom. Father's day nah dad worked to much. So lets go with fathers day.

Most religious holidays have pagan roots. There are some holidays that are patriotic. And some that seem innocent but that also have pagan origins. Such as the celebrating of birthdays, which is pagan in origin as well.

Here is the truth:

(1 Corinthians 10:20-22) 20 No; but I say that what the nations sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers with the demons. 21 You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons. 22 Or ‘are we inciting Jehovah to jealousy’? We are not stronger than he is, are we?


There is a reason Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate Easter, or Halloween, or Christmas.

Because their origin is based in pagan worship of demons. And by mixing what is unclean with the clean, you make what is holy defiled.

Jehovah says:

(2 Corinthians 6:17) . . .“‘Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take you in.’”

You see this admonish is real and true and trustworthy. There is a reason the other religions don't want you to listen to us. And it is because Satan has everyone that celebrates these holidays as slaves to himself.

You have to separate yourself out of the world, and have to quit touching what is unclean, and come to serve Jehovah with spirit and truth in order for your worship to be valid.

This is the truth.

Patriotic holidays are just the same. They are a way Satan gets you to put the mark of the beast on your forehead. The number 666. Everyone involving themselves with the world's politics, and the world's wars receive the mark. And no one that receives the mark, has their name written in the book of life.

The entire world is living in spiritual bondage and darkness to the the prince of darkness. That is why he, and you as well hate Jehovah's Witnesses. Because they are the light in the world.

(Revelation 12:9) So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him.


Jehovah's light shines through them and exposes all the falsehoods Satan has spent 6 millennium building. Jehovah's word is trustworthy and true.


(Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.

Just think. Maybe God is so much more then us, that things still happen, and we do not understand.

Pagan, was an early Roman term used to describe the early followers of Christ. Meant, basically, country dweller. Hick. Poor country folk that can't live in the city kind of thing. After the first ring of Christ's followers formed it is speculated Christianity, was moved out to the hinterland by persecution in the cities. The fashionable Romans that were urban (and had a plethora of Gods) thought Christianity to be 'pagan'. Country.

Funny, that.

Anyway I like to look at it as such. No matter what spirituality you subscribe to, I believe it is an almost to much to fathom by mere mortals. The day picked itself.

No matter the 'when' of your unique time, or the God you speak of - it was always a "Holy Day' i.e. holiday.

Witnesses may take such a mantle upon themselves, shun them and say it's evil... and subscribe to it. However I would have them contemplate the book of Acts before getting judge-y.

I enjoy the celebration of Christ's Birth and celebrate that as 'Christ Mass'... and also a kind of today is your birthday woo hoo wrapped in there. I, also don't know his real birthday from any other so, might as well go for the 25th of December and I keep it in my heart to celebrate the occasion.

My Mother wants to build a Bonfire to call back the Sun, in her backyard.

Through the annals of time all time, a very Holy Day.

My whole family still lives in the country - even my Aunt, a Jehovah's Witness.

All us pagans.

Just coming to confirm what others have already stated. Most holidays do have Pagan roots. The others are pretty much local/national pride holidays, or hallmark holidays.

For example for pagans today is May Day/ Beltane etc.....
For me it's similar but I call it the welcoming of the Flower Moon (Waawaaskone Giizis)

-Alee

I can't help but giggle a little bit as I see all my neighbors in the Bible Belt celebrate all these pagan holidays.

To answer your question, the early Christians appropriated many holidays in an attempt to convert the heathens. I would posit that there are more pagan holidays than Christian.

Some, like me, figure it out and go back to their heathen roots.

I think it's around this time of the year that we celebrate and unfurl the "where did beezer go" banners and dance around the mythical cyber pole.

Kwanza!

Anthropologically speaking...All Human Holidays can generally be broken down into 4 basic types...

1. New Year festivals

2. Harvest festivals

3. Festivals of the Dead

4. Festivals that honor people

...Regardless of the country or culture...

...Sometimes, Pagan just means they came before Christianity....

You missed a few of the truly stupid ones; Groundhog Day, Arbor Day and Flag Day.

It's the Christian holidays that aren't truly unique since they're all just cheap knockoffs of pagan holidays. Ba ha ha.

a reply to: BStoltman
First off, define Pagan. Paganism actually encompasses a TON of different belief systems and many unique religions were unfairly lumped into the "pagan" title by hateful Christians spreading their religion during the medieval days. Basically anything that wasn't Christian was Pagan. So do you think of Muslim or Jewish holidays like Ramadan or Passover to be Pagan?

Also, here are some secular holidays:
Memorial Day
Veteran's Day
4th of July
Cinco de Mayo

Short answer is NO. At least that's the case in the UK.

There are some bank holidays (i.e. public holidays) that have religious connections , e.g. Christmas and Easter, and which are probably linked to Pagan festivals if you want to go far back in time, but they celebrate Christian events, so they're not Pagan. May Day (in the UK) has Pagan roots.

Other bank holidays are just that. Time off for most people.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus


You missed a few of the truly stupid ones; Groundhog Day, Arbor Day and Flag Day.

Groundhog day isn't stupid! How else would we know when winter ends.

Then after the cold weather is over we can break out the decorations for the "bean squeezer" festival of lights.