Trump: ‘I’m a Nationalist and a Globalist’ “I’m both.”

a reply to: SoulSurfer


I have zero problem with this statement. A huge portion of business investment is coming from off-shore.

The world economy is too inter-related to completely separate the U.S. and the rest. One can be America first without destroying the world economy.

It also makes strategic sense in that the U.S. needs to be in far better shape to even take on TPTB.

One step at a time.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

You are aware that Trump can advocate nationalism on a global scale and still be thinking of America's interests first, right?

Wrong? You're not aware? Ok.

Well you are now. Honestly, your short dissertation about the wall and North Korea is quite irrelevant to the comment he made in the beginning of the OP.

Sovereign nations can still 'not' get along with each other, but negotiations and solutions to this problem become much easier when the arm of the one world government isn't there to over regulate and overburden a demographic of the population that has never elected those officials in the first place.

Supporting sovereignty of every nation isn't the same thing as endorsing dictatorships and oppressive regimes around the world.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

Trump is both globalist and nationalist , because he has been confused since he took office.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

I know we would have been way better off with Hillary.
No conspiracy about elites and hidden agendas needed.

Some lessons are gonna be harder to learn than others.

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: Kandinsky

How about g-l-o-b-o-n-a-t-i-o-n-a-l-i-s-t?

You saw it here first. Now watch Spicer say it tomorrow in a press conference.

There'd be no living with you then.

a reply to: pheonix358

Such loyalty.
You even use trumps phrases and spin his ideas.

No no one is still crying about the election. Reality is what it is.
No, we are having to live with the mistake. That's the issue now.
Not the election but what this uncontrolled man may do .

a reply to: FuggleHop

Oh Jesus Christ....

a reply to: ColdWisdom

Actually you're wrong. Supporting sovereignty of every nation includes minding your own business to let them run themselves as they see fit. You can't invade other countries without their permission and then claim to respect their sovereignty. Even simply entering another country's airspace without permission is a violation of its sovereignty.

Syria's President Assad was reelected in a contested election in 2014. He alone is the official head of state for Syria and his government is the official national govt of Syria. Supporting rebel groups in Syria is a direct violation of Syria's sovereignty. Entering Syria's airspace, national waters, and/or soil without the official Syrian's govt's permission are direct violations of Syria's sovereignty. And trying to carve up Syria into separate States is also a direct violation of Syria's sovereignty.

You should probably look up the international law term "territorial integrity" before responding. ETA: In fact, you should probably look up what "sovereignty" means. By definition, sovereignty means ruling over something without external interference. Being pro-global interference and also pro-sovereignty is a contradiction.

It will be an American Globalism or else...
vs
a little correction with a reminder of the trademark.
What is better? The new term is: "asymmetric politics".

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: SoulSurfer

I know we would have been way better off with Hillary

At least that way, we would know 100% sure she is the bad one and we would have united for a common cause against her. Now instead we have confusion and she is still not in jail where she belongs.

Make no mistake though. Both Trump and Hillary Serve the same master. We would have been screwed either way.

Trump's statement is true. He is a globalist, but there are many here in denial about it.

originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: ColdWisdom

Don't waste your time.

This is just another hit piece from the usual people who want to cry because their rather bitchy candidate did not win.

People throw these words around like they have special significance.

OOOH, Socialism is sooo baaaddddd. Nationalism is soooo baaadddd.

Most have no bloody idea what they actually are.

Just more crap!

P

You're right, neither is bad. Maybe we should all become National Socialists?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Wow, Bannon gets in a dig at the president. Guess he's gonna use his freedom of the press to exact a little revenge.

On another note trumps supporters have star dust in their eyes and see no problem with flip flop policies.

Even the nutter Alex Jones is no longer towing the line for the Trump admin.

I do enjoy to see the rampant excuses from the cultists.

Dear Leader can do no wrong, ever. It's all a liberal conspiracy.

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: SoulSurfer


I have zero problem with this statement. A huge portion of business investment is coming from off-shore.

The world economy is too inter-related to completely separate the U.S. and the rest. One can be America first without destroying the world economy.

It also makes strategic sense in that the U.S. needs to be in far better shape to even take on TPTB.

One step at a time.

How you even come to that conclusion is beyond me.

Of course you have zero problems with his statement. He can shoot an innocent in the street and most cultists wouldn't have a problem with that.

It's funny, though, as much as the cultists claim that the liberals need to "get over," Hillary's loss - they consistently bring it up, themselves lol.

You partisan hacks are amusing af

a reply to: enlightenedservant

Actually you're wrong. Supporting sovereignty of every nation includes minding your own business to let them run themselves as they see fit.

It means not trying to blanket international law over a country where international laws have not been democratically agreed upon.

And trying to get Mexico to pay for the wall is not anti-sovereignty of Mexico. The boarder exists between both our nations, and Mexico isn't pulling its own weight in terms of cracking down on illegal immigration. In fact, Mexico hands out literature to their citizens that explains the safest ways to illegally enter the US.

Do you think that's respecting the US's sovereignty? No. Is it Trump's fault that Mexico is egregiously aiding and abetting illegal immigration on a national scale? No.

You should probably look up the international law term "territorial integrity" before responding. ETA: In fact, you should probably look up what "sovereignty" means.

You should probably look up the word condescending, then stop doing it.

Being pro-global interference and also pro-sovereignty is a contradiction.

Trump never said he was pro global interference, nor did he say he was in favor of toppling Assad's regime, nor did he say he wanted to carve out the land in Syria into different territories. You can interpret what he said as saying "I'm a warmongering neocon/globalist/nwo shill and I want to conquer the world," but you and I both know that's not what he said.

The real point here is, until it is explained by the man himself, no one knows what Trump really meant when he said he's a nationalist globalist. You can take that your way and I'll take it my way. As far as I'm concerned, Trump supports nationalism on a global scale, encouraging other nations (particularly the oppressed ones) to free themselves from world government (brexit, frexit, Taiwann, etc.) in order to achieve more freedom.

You go really far out of your way to demonize both Trump & Trump supporters on this forum and you're better than that, so my suggestion is to chill out.

a reply to: RomeByFire

I could care less about Hillary, Obama or the Democrat Party.

They are done. Toast. Ancient history.


Your ilk, on the other hand, are creative. Unfortunately it's only in reaction to Trump. That puts him in the position to decide what to give you to 'react' to.

No platform, no ideals, just squealing and moaning . Personally, I love it. Carry on.....

originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Wow, Bannon gets in a dig at the president. Guess he's gonna use his freedom of the press to exact a little revenge.

On another note trumps supporters have star dust in their eyes and see no problem with flip flop policies.

Even the nutter Alex Jones is no longer towing the line for the Trump admin.

I do enjoy to see the rampant excuses from the cultists.

Dear Leader can do no wrong, ever. It's all a liberal conspiracy.

I feel so powerful.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

That is dualism, maybe he can combine the opposite forces with in him, than he is really gifted

a reply to: SoulSurfer

TRUMP is 1st Seal (hypothetical because Bible could be true, could not be true, Book of Revelation could be true, could not be true) REVELATION 6:1,2

a reply to: galien8

I think... I will trust scriptures more.

A Father's Wise Instruction Proverbs 4 (KJV)
Pro 4:1  Hear, ye children, the instruction of a father, and attend to know understanding. 
Pro 4:2  For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law. 
Pro 4:3  For I was my father's son, tender and only beloved in the sight of my mother. 
Pro 4:4  He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live. 
Pro 4:5  Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth. 
Pro 4:6  Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee. 
Pro 4:7  Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. 
Pro 4:8  Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her. 
Pro 4:9  She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace: a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee. 
Pro 4:10  Hear, O my son, and receive my sayings; and the years of thy life shall be many. 
Pro 4:11  I have taught thee in the way of wisdom; I have led thee in right paths. 
Pro 4:12  When thou goest, thy steps shall not be straitened; and when thou runnest, thou shalt not stumble. 
Pro 4:13  Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life. 
Pro 4:14  Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men. 
Pro 4:15  Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away. 
Pro 4:16  For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall. 
Pro 4:17  For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence. 
Pro 4:18  But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day. 
Pro 4:19  The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble. 
Pro 4:20  My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. 
Pro 4:21  Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. 
Pro 4:22  For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh. 
Pro 4:23  Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life. 
Pro 4:24  Put away from thee a froward mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee. 
Pro 4:25  Let thine eyes look right on, and let thine eyelids look straight before thee. 
Pro 4:26  Ponder the path of thy feet, and let all thy ways be established. 
Pro 4:27 Turn not to the right hand nor to the left: remove thy foot from evil.

Now the bible has confirmed that the Hegelian Dialectic is pure evil.

Well lets see in his actions....

The wall gets built, laws are followed and some sanity is used to control immigration...
He makes better trade agreements with other countries in the US best interests....
He lets the world know the US is no longer a Beta male/female...
He fills the SC with another moderate Conservative...
The economy gets much better than the last 8 years...

I don't know what you would call this...don't care, but if nationalist/globalist is what he wants to call it to describe his actions then I fine with it...hehe