1983: STS-8 Challenger : Giants in Space?

Well straight to the point, either we are looking at giants in space,(3:28) or a refection's though a window or glass, and if it is a reflection, how come we don't see the reflection over the the shuttle?

That aside, going into space, there wearing what looks like motorcycle helmet, plus no gloves or pressurised suit, even though claiming to be experiencing over 5G on take off?! that alone should have people thinking.

IMO looks fake as hell and if anyone remembers thunderbirds, they did a better job.

Interested to see how people will explain this away.

Peace.

Nice!

Looks like a reflection, as the head moves away to the right, there is a little overlap on the blue spot on the wing. Also right before the shot ends I can make out lens from a hand held camera on the top right corner.

I wish giants in space!

Definitely refections!

And I think they only need the pressure suits at launch and reentry, or spacewalk. Other than that, they can wear bikinis if they want.
The flight suits there are blue, and minimally pressurised..you need to look up the resume for what came after.

Looks like a black man with sunglasses
cool. Perhaps the recording is a recording of a monitor.. so reflections ?

a reply to: TheDon

Would one expect to see a reflection in glass when the object behind the glass is stark white and illuminated? As in should you be able to see the reflection of a face over top of the bright white of the shuttle?

I don't think you should be able to see it but I'm no photography expert.

Looks an awful lot like the Payload Specialist looking out the window at....the payload.

originally posted by: TheDon

...and if it is a reflection, how come we don't see the reflection over the the shuttle?

As mentioned above, you can see the person's nose over top of a blue part of the shuttle. Otherwise, I think the white parts are so white that they would overpower and obscure a reflection that might be over top of them.

Nice, lol.

thanks for putting the time of the event.
I hate searching thru a long video like that.

The shape looks like a big head to me, like
someone accidentally stepped into view
on the mini set/stage.

good catch.

originally posted by: smurfy
Definitely refections!

And I think they only need the pressure suits at launch and reentry, or spacewalk. Other than that, theycan wear bikinis if they want.

You see the launch at the beginning, no pressure suits?!

originally posted by: Box of Rain

originally posted by: TheDon

...and if it is a reflection, how come we don't see the reflection over the the shuttle?

As mentioned above, you can see the person's nose over top of a blue part of the shuttle. Otherwise, I think the white parts are so white that they would overpower and obscure a reflection that might be over top of them.

I thought that to, but, then after looking at the clip many times, it could also be a pixel glitch due to the poor quality.

If it was a refection, should one not see it all over the shuttle, especially due to the the size of the guy seen in the film?

a reply to: shlaw

Thunderbirds are GO!

:-)

a reply to: Shamrock6

That is a reach from what you see there LOL

Comon, I can go with reflection, but that ?!

though thanks for the input

a reply to: TheDon

They're wearing the same suits all the other astronauts wore in those days.

NASA didn't mandate the orange partial pressure suits until the late 80s.

a reply to: TheDon

Not really a reach at all. Look at the parting of the hair and the nose shape and, as near as I can tell, a mustache. Only one guy on the flight has hair like that and a mustache.

a reply to: TheDon
In this instance, the burden of proof is not to explain something so ridiculous away, but for you to provide better evidence that isn't an obvious reflection.

originally posted by: TheDon

originally posted by: Box of Rain

originally posted by: TheDon

...and if it is a reflection, how come we don't see the reflection over the the shuttle?

As mentioned above, you can see the person's nose over top of a blue part of the shuttle. Otherwise, I think the white parts are so white that they would overpower and obscure a reflection that might be over top of them.

I thought that to, but, then after looking at the clip many times, it could also be a pixel glitch due to the poor quality.

If it was a refection, should one not see it all over the shuttle, especially due to the the size of the guy seen in the film?

Uh...if you can't see the guy because the white of the shuttle washes out the reflection, why would you be able to see the reflection "all over the shuttle" when it's almost entirely white?

a reply to: Shamrock6

Look at Apollo, www.youtube.com... , not ture they wore full suits, not a helmet and a jumpsuit
:-)

So that fact is not true.
please research before commenting :-)

a reply to: Shamrock6

Maybe, I don't know, but IMO, I am going to say it is fake and they used a small model.
Remember when this was filmed, there was no internet as we know, everyone had crappy TV's. and everyone was looking at the satellite, for the few seconds this man appeared.

Food for thought maybe?

a reply to: TheDon

Maybe you should research before concocting hair brained conspiracy theories chief.

Apollo isn't a shuttle, it's a capsule.

STS 8 flew in Challenger, which is a shuttle. You can go research yourself when they adopted the pumpkin suits and what they flew in before that.

The four test flights, between April 1981 and July 1982, went without incident, and the pressure suits performed without any problems. With the termination of the test flight program, all flights from STS-5 to STS-51-L (the Challenger disaster) saw the crew wearing one-piece light blue flight suits, escape harnesses, and helmets similar to the pressure suit helmets, but fitted around the head with a clamshell-like closure. After Challenger, NASA, in need of an escape system, also required the reintroduction of the wearing of pressure suits during the launch and landing portions of the flight. The initial eight suits were navy blue,[3] similar in color to the previous flight suits, the rest of the suits were bright orange to contrast against the dark blue ocean water they'd most likely be used in. The blue suits were never used on an actual mission.

Don't attack my research when you clearly haven't even done any to begin with.

a reply to: TheDon

Of course you will, because you don't want proof.

You just want to be right.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

I don't have to prove anything, i have put this out for other to look at and voice there own opinions.

Everyone is welcome to make up the own dam mind no matter what I say.

Have a good day