Erasing history to ease hurt feelings.

Yes, back when the flag flap was all the rage, I mentioned it then. But I was assured by the SJW brigade that NOBODY was banning the flag, or erasing history, they just didn't like it and didn't want to see it, so enough crybabies emerged and had it removed from government buildings. And like most things, you give them an inch, and they will take two, then two more, then a mile.

Alexandria is moving this monument and renaming the highway to do their best to appease the tearful folks who can't handle history. What was this horrid statue for? It was a memorial to fallen soldiers. But I suppose is you don't like the conflict, to hell with those who faught, just spit on them and be on your way.

Now we have this:
www.wral.com...

NEW ORLEANS — Workers in New Orleans removed the first of four prominent Confederate monuments Monday morning, making the city the latest Southern institution to sever itself from symbols viewed by many as a representation of racism and white supremacy.

So just remember, if you don't like something, close your eyes, and it will go away, if it's still there when you open them, just cry a bit, and others will remove it for you. History be DAMNED!!!

a reply to: network dude

Removing statues is NOT erasing history. The history is still there. You can still study it. You can still go view the memorabilia. It just isn't in your face anymore as as a statue. You right wing cry babies make it sound like if these things are gone then it will be physically impossible to study the Confederacy anymore.

ETA: And come to think of it if your view of history starts and ends with monuments, road names and flags then that isn't history anyways. That is idolatry.

When are they going to erase all the presidents from Washington to Lincoln that presided over the United States of Slavery ?

And when is that political party that's mascot is the donkey going to get erased from existence ?

Since it was started by a slave owner ?

*crickets.

a reply to: network dude

It may seem like it is to ease hurt feelers, but if could really be about rewriting history in a way the globalists/corporations want.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: network dude

Removing statues is NOT erasing history. The history is still there. You can still study it. You can still go view the memorabilia. It just isn't in your face anymore as as a statue. You right wing cry babies make it sound like if these things are gone then it will be physically impossible to study the Confederacy anymore.

Ah yes, the one I mentioned in the OP is here to again, assure us that NOBODY is ERASING HISTORY, they are simply placing it somewhere out of the way so as not to anger the few who are upset by the historical facts that exist in this world. Sure, one day skippy may stumble upon a blurb in a book about the dirt mound that exists in the center of town, he may even ask, "daddy, why did they take that statue down?", and sadly, his father will only answer, "Son, the pinhead lefties removed all the historical significance of this town because a few of them just couldn't handle the reality they lived in."

Please answer this, why is history so offensive? Are you in the mindset that making it hard to find will somehow erase what happened?

a reply to: network dude
That's complete bull#. We don't need flags of nazis hanging on government buildings or statues of SS officers prominently displayed around the country to be reminded that the nazi's existed.

Please answer this, why is history so offensive? Are you in the mindset that making it hard to find will somehow erase what happened?

This is a strawman. I find nothing offensive about history. I read it all. I just don't support idolatry being passed off as history like you are trying to do. Plus, history isn't hard to find. It's in the same places it has always existed. Textbooks, museums, libraries, schools, colleges, etc.

Also, for someone so outraged about history being erased. Why aren't you pitching a fit over Trump defunding libraries and museums? THAT'S the real threat to history here. Not some silly statue or street name.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: network dude

Removing statues is NOT erasing history. The history is still there. You can still study it. You can still go view the memorabilia. It just isn't in your face anymore as as a statue. You right wing cry babies make it sound like if these things are gone then it will be physically impossible to study the Confederacy anymore.

ETA: And come to think of it if your view of history starts and ends with monuments, road names and flags then that isn't history anyways. That is idolatry.

The history that you say is still there, is it in our history books at school? How honest are those books in each subsequent publication as far as what really happened? Sorry if you cannot see, that they are very much trying to erase history, or shall we say, hide it, from the average person.

a reply to: Krazysh0t


The whole reason the statues were removed was because some people didn't like it. Forget the history, just because some people think that it's racist; doesn't make it so. The right thing to do is to leave the statues where they are.

a reply to: iTruthSeeker

History can be studied in more places than just the classrooms. Though, just a heads up, you are identifying a problem caused by conservatives pitching idolatry over history when you bring up the problems with high school history text books. I'm all for fixing them, but they aren't flawed due to liberals.

originally posted by: stelth2
a reply to: Krazysh0t


The whole reason the statues were removed was because some people didn't like it. Forget the history, just because some people think that it's racist; doesn't make it so. The right thing to do is to leave the statues where they are.

Again. A statue isn't history. It is idolatry. If it is offensive then remove it. The history isn't erased with no statue there.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

History can be studied in more places than just the classrooms. Though, just a heads up, you are identifying a problem caused by conservatives pitching idolatry over history when you bring up the problems with high school history text books. I'm all for fixing them, but they aren't flawed due to liberals.

I am sure over time it has been both sides that are guilty, of course. I am talking about the recent issues such as this OP.

a reply to: network dude

The SJW's will not be satisfied until America looks like a padded cell, devoid of everything that can invoke emotion.

Denial is an ugly thing, so too is weak-assed capitulation to feelings over facts.

a reply to: network dude

Yeah, makes me laugh.

We have something similar going on in Bristol UK at the minute regarding Edward Colston who was a slave trader back in the late 1600's. Yeah, i'm sure he was a nasty person but hey ..... that was then and IT IS part of the History of the City / Region.

Before this "issue" was highlighted i never even considered the name of the Music Hall venue, schools, streets and monuments dotted around the city that have been named or erected after the guy.

Population of Bristol = just short of half a million. Followers of the protest group (according to facebook) = 310

So, someone has a problem with this name (young black woman if truth is known) gets a "few" followers and now it is seriously being considered to change the names of the venues and to remove the monuments. Don't get me wrong, she has a right to voice her opinion about something that occurred 300+ years ago, however, it did happen and IS part of history,.

Not nice, lets erase it, never discuss it again eh? much like the colonial wars of old (when there was a British Empire) is never discussed in History lessons in UK schools anymore. It's not PC anymore

For Ref Colston

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

History can be studied in more places than just the classrooms. Though, just a heads up, you are identifying a problem caused by conservatives pitching idolatry over history when you bring up the problems with high school history text books. I'm all for fixing them, but they aren't flawed due to liberals.

I am sure over time it has been both sides that are guilty, of course. I am talking about the recent issues such as this OP.

This OP isn't about erasing history though. If you are getting your history from statues then you are part of the problem for why history is so poorly understood in this country.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: stelth2
a reply to: Krazysh0t


The whole reason the statues were removed was because some people didn't like it. Forget the history, just because some people think that it's racist; doesn't make it so. The right thing to do is to leave the statues where they are.

Again. A statue isn't history. It is idolatry. If it is offensive then remove it. The history isn't erased with no statue there.

Ever think maybe statues are there to remind us of history? So we don't forget and repeat it?

This is my problem with this issue, and society today.

People decide to get offended, and have something removed.

What is wrong with using the offending object, as a teaching tool?


Isn't there a saying about forgetting history? (Yes)

And if we remove said statue, and (godess knows) only "certain" things are being taught in schools these days, then what exactly will we remember, in say, 50 years? 100?

I personally think it is a slippery slope.

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: stelth2
a reply to: Krazysh0t


The whole reason the statues were removed was because some people didn't like it. Forget the history, just because some people think that it's racist; doesn't make it so. The right thing to do is to leave the statues where they are.

Again. A statue isn't history. It is idolatry. If it is offensive then remove it. The history isn't erased with no statue there.

Ever think maybe statues are there to remind us of history? So we don't forget and repeat it?

You are making a large assumption about the reason that statue was erected; furthermore, statues are more often than not erected to honor a historic figure. Not serve as a reminder of a past tragedy. USUALLY the reminders are known as memorials not statues.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The world didn't hire you and the SJW brigade to dictate morality to us. So no, your opinion isn't more valid than any other. Towns have historical landmarks that existed during a time where we did some bad things. But removing those statues isn't going to remove the bad things that were done. Slavery will still have eixsted even if the Old Market House in Fayetteville is removed. And having it there as a reminder, keeps that idea fresh in the minds of all. To remove it will make those memories fade into obscurity.

How long before it's illegal to mention slavery? (and remember, when something that crazy happens, you can think back to this moment in time and realize what a tool you were to the system)

a reply to: chiefsmom

What exactly does this statue teach about the past? What does ANY statue teach about the past actually?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Really? Because you don't think maybe even ONE kid, might see that statue, and want more information about it and decide to actually read and learn?

Why is that not worth it?