What?! Nuclear Hoax

originally posted by: neo96
Unfortunately they are very real.

You can't fake HEMP,NEMP effects.

They sure didn't fake Nagaski and Hiroshima.

They sure didn't fake those underground tests all over the world, and atolls in the worlds oceans.

The holy grail af two bit tyrants.

Pandora's box that should have never been open.

How do you know that they didn't fake the bombs in WW2?

The cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima were destroyed by fire bombing, just like half of Tokyo was, a bit earlier on.

Nobody saw images of Tokyo after it was fire-bombed, back then. It was deliberately held from the public. Only recently, we've been able to see those images.

Compare the images of Tokyo after the fire-bombing to images of Nagasaki and Hiroshima after they were 'nuked'.

The destruction of Tokyo is exactly the same as those two cities we've all seen images of, many times.


I had always wondered why Hiroshima and Nagasaki still had bridges and a few buildings remain intact, after they were 'nuked'. The reason is that the bridges and buildings were made of steel, or concrete, or brick.

If a nuke was dropped on the cities, these structures were at ground zero, and would have been flattened, like all the rest was. But they were intact, and that's proof the cities were NOT 'nuked', but fire-bombed, just like Tokyo was.


Nothing would remain intact from an atomic bomb, if it existed, as they claim. How can a multi-story building stand intact among all the ruins, if it was 'nuked'? Not a chance in hell.

The reason those cities were flattened was because almost all the structures were made of wood, straw, and foliage. That's why it all was burned into little pieces. That's why the trees remained standing, but the leaves were gone. Anything of wood, etc. was all charred black.

But we all believed they were destroyed by a new, incredibly powerful weapon, the Atomic Bomb! Nobody had ever seen such destruction before. That's why they didn't show Tokyo after it was fire-bombed, at the time, or many years later, either. If people had seen Tokyo after that, and know it was the result of fire-bombing, it would not look any different when they saw Hiroshima or Nagasaki afterwards. Even if they said they were 'nuked', it would not convince everyone, or might not, anyway. People could point out how Tokyo was like that, to others, and so forth. Not good for a hoax, then.



If you look at videos of it, you'll notice that the mushroom clouds are spliced in. They even put two separate mushroom clouds together, to look like one massive cloud. It's obvious to see two clouds are there, not one. Another problem - the mushroom clouds only appear after they have started to expand. And they are not shown hitting the cities, either. Because they were faking it all.

Do you really think they wouldn't have filmed it from the very start? When it first hit the cities, and flattened everything around it, and expanded upward into a mushroom cloud? Of course they would have. They'd have filmed it in color, and many angles, too. Consider how this event was unprecedented, and filmed in grainy black & white, while they filmed all sorts of trivial things, like a soldier shaving, in full color!!

'Let's destroy two entire cities with our new, incredible weapon, which nobody knew existed! And let's shoot a little footage to document the historical event, that changes the entire world....in black & white, with a #ty camera!!'


Hilarious.

The nuclear scare that western media is trying to report during the past few days , trying to blame the "Skyfall" missile is demented. That missile might have actually never failed any test. Aside from that , dragging the Siberian soviet-era ammo depot decoy is even more retarded.
How is NATO going to explain another catastrophic failure of its foreign and military policy in the coming weeks I don't know , but I guess that "fireworks" kinda help the "THINKERS" at NATO ...

It's the same as with Bulava ... as already said ! They all fail and show funny videos and failing pictures, until NATO in 2013 made a "mistake" and got it's ass handed over to them in less than 3 months ...

a reply to: Flanker86

You mean like when your amazing Russia found out that most of their weapons didn't work nearly as well as they thought? But please, tell us how NATO "got it's ass handed over to them in less than 3 months ..."

a reply to: turbonium1

So according to you, the Earth is flat with the Moon and Sun circling above it under a dome with a Ice Wall in Antarctica that nobody is allowed to go to, we never went to the Moon and the landings were all faked, gravity is fake and now so are nukes.

Please, get a grip on reality, man.

a reply to: turbonium1

I bet if you ruled the world every day would be the first day of spring too.

Your entire post is argument from ignorance and if I ran the zoo. It has no substance, no supporting evidence, and proves nothing other than your deep seated desire to prove just how little you know about anything.

Ask yourself: how many pilots flew over Tokyo during the firebombing.

How many over Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Your post is deeply offensive to the families of the many thousands who died. Be ashamed of yourself.

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

I bet if you ruled the world every day would be the first day of spring too.

Your entire post is argument from ignorance and if I ran the zoo. It has no substance, no supporting evidence, and proves nothing other than your deep seated desire to prove just how little you know about anything.

Ask yourself: how many pilots flew over Tokyo during the firebombing.

How many over Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Your post is deeply offensive to the families of the many thousands who died. Be ashamed of yourself.

It's hardly offensive to discuss whether they were slaughtered by nukes, or by another method(s)....you nitwit!

Nobody is arguing the horrors didn't happen, they did happen, so drop the bs.


The effects of fire-bombing Tokyo were identical to these two cities. Nukes don't exist.


Radiation exists, that's true. Nukes are fake, they use radiation to sell it as real.


They claim nukes are extremely hard to build, because it's very difficult to 'enrich' the uranium, used in nukes.

They had to make up something to explain why nobody else can build a nuke, which they all figured out how to build, within the same decade, over 50 years ago, no problem!!


Nobody has ever seen a nuke work as claimed, they didn't nuke Japan in WWII, nobody can make a nuke, over 50 years later, because nukes are just another grandiose fake. Among many other fakes they've sold to the world, still going strong today.

a reply to: turbonium1

Care to debunk the actual physics behind nukes? No, i thought not.

a reply to: turbonium1

Nobody has ever seen a nuke work as claimed, they didn't nuke Japan in WWII, nobody can make a nuke, over 50 years later, because nukes are just another grandiose fake.

When you debunk the physics of nukes perhaps you could also explain your reason as to why they are being faked?

What about nuclear power stations, are they fake, too?

Until you do that, I will have to assume that this is yet another one of your nonsense claims.

a reply to: turbonium1

I think the people who died of radiation sickness would disagree with you that actually they have seen one explode, as would the many soldiers made ill by watching atom bombs go off. The people living near the testing sites holding bomb parties would also dispute your stupid claim, as would the pilots who dropped the bombs on Japan. Soviet, Chinese, Indian, Israeli and Pakistani weapons manufacturers would completely refute your ridiculous claim that the bombs they've tested don't work.

Tell us, oh tinfoil basement genius, how you account for a layer of radiocative Caesium in soil used as a dating marker by scientists world wide?

How many aircraft were involved in the Japanese atom bombings?

a reply to: turbonium1

Perhaps you could explain how this was "faked"?

Hilarious

You find this funny, do you?

a reply to: turbonium1

Even more specifically, we can compare it to aerial footage of other cities being bombed, such as Dresden, and Berlin.

Yes, we can:



Lots of separate explosions, nothing like Hiroshima or Nagasaki. You really should go to Specsavers.

a reply to: turbonium1

You said:

Suppose America had this powerful bomb, while fighting Japan in WWII... That bomb will end the war, if it's dropped on a Japanese city. Two cities will end it, for sure. So why didn't they ever document this historic even with actual film footage?

You were then shown "actual film footage".

This begs the question, why did you lie about this?

F.Y.I.....

Here is a vid of the Russian explosions/accidents/sabatoges(?) from earlier this month....

You will see a conventional explosion, and at 20 seconds, what looks like a tactical nuke explosion..


www.youtube.com...
1 min long.

It is both sad and disappointing just how low in calibre many of today's ATS website's posters have sunk, Turbonium1 is such an example. The site itself has been allowed to crumble to the point it is at today, because the owners of the site no longer care to provide the kind of website it once was.

Of course, nuclear weapons are real. Of course, both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked. Of course thousands of nuclear detonations were conducted over decades of experimentation and refinement, as equally also, were the delivery systems to carry the nukes to designated targets. Even up to today the refinements continue, even as the resources of war seek to be moved away from the use of the human mind and body to wage war against other human minds and bodies similarly armed. To bring war into full-on automation and robotic mode, to take conscience out of war, and to make war clinical, sterile, and extremely efficient, but most of all, as inevitable as night follows day.

New weapons not as destructive to the environment as nukes, but just as lethal are being sought for. Nukes have now been consigned to the ultimate last resort to win either an accidental or deliberately manufactured war against a stubborn ideological opposed adversary.

To deny or even to think or believe that nuclear weapons do not exist is the ultimate cowardly conscience. It is a stupidity that goes way beyond comprehension. It reveals the thinker to be wholly in absence of intellectual faculty, and ultimately to be utterly disingenuous unto themselves. No credence can be given to their utterances and writings. They are not even fit for purpose for this website...so low have they sunk.

a reply to: MarkJS

That's a big explosion! Not a nuke, though, tactical or otherwise.

a reply to: turbonium1

Still waiting for you to debunk the physics of nuclear fission. Good luck with that.

a reply to: turbonium1

Still waiting. What a surprise.

Looks like a no-show from Turbo.